The answer to William Penn Quaker, his book, entituled, The new witnesses proved old hereticks Wherein he is proved to be an ignotant [sic] spater-brain'd Quaker, who knows no more what the true God is, nor his secret decrees, then one of his coach-horses doth, nor so much; for the oxe knoweth his owner, and the ass his masters scrip, but Penn doth not know his maker, as is manifest by the Scriptures, which may inform the reader, if he mind the interpretation of Scripture in the discourse following. I. That God was in the forme, image and likeness of mans bodily shape, as well as his soul from eternity. ... VIII. What is meant by the armour of God, the wilderness, and the wilde beasts I fought with in the wilderness. / By Lodowick Muggleton.

CHAP VIII. (Book 8)

It is b cause the Angels bo••i••s are in formes like God and like m n in respect of their bodies, though their natures are not the same as Gods nature; and that Angel that was thrown down from Heaven that deceived Eve, his forme of body was like the forme an•• body o•• God, but his nature was pure reason fallen, and by his deceiving of Eve, all men in the world are made partakers by generation of the seed of reason, that is, of the seed of the Serpent Angel, which is the cause that so many devils are gene∣rated and begotten in this world.

Thirdly, Penns third Argument, saith h••, If soul and body be in∣separably generated, then the Sexes as well belong to souls as bodies, the which as it is absurd, so would be men and women in that very distincti∣on ••o all eternity, and whoever read of she-souls or female souls

These are Penns own words without any alteration in the least, therefore I shall desire the R ad••r to consider of them, and make sense of them to their own satisfaction, for I can make no sense of them, neither can I tell what he meaneth by them, so I shall give no Answer to it, but leave it to the Reader to satisfie themselves in it.

Fourthly, Penns four••h and ••ast Argument to this p••int, and 〈…〉〈…〉 his great••st ••••r••ng••h; sait•• he, If s••ul and body were 〈…〉〈…〉 a••d i••separably g••ner••t••d ••y man; sait•• he, ••hen in all 〈…〉〈…〉 no more d••fficu•••• to fi••d•• o••t t e soul then any other 〈…〉〈…〉 cast of ••pe•• 〈…〉〈…〉 of him given a••l have at the 〈…〉〈…〉 hea••s 〈…〉〈…〉 i••••••ssible 〈…〉〈…〉 ••ut ••n•• ••hould 〈◊〉〈◊〉 the ••nd ••n∣ten•• of ••uch ••••re hearts ••nd 〈…〉〈…〉 were 〈◊〉〈◊〉 vain, we shall conc••ude the s ul is 〈…〉〈…〉 ••••er ins••parab••e from t••e body bu•• of an 〈…〉〈…〉.

Answer, 〈…〉〈…〉 shall p••ov•• by Scri••tur••, 〈…〉〈…〉 and 〈…〉〈…〉 inseparably generated by man, as 〈…〉〈…〉 ••••••sed th••m, and God said unto them, Be fruit••ul and multip••••, and ••eplenish the earth; here God bl••ssed Adam and ••••e wit〈…〉〈…〉 Law of gene∣ration; Now how could they increas•• and mul••i•••••• ••••d replen••s•• the earth, but by generating and b gett••••g of so 〈…〉〈…〉 daught••rs. Now did God give them leave to generate and b•••••••• ••o••ies only without life and soul, and when ••••••y had m ltiplied in genera∣••ing of b••dies. then Go•• would com•• a•••• infu••e som•• of his great sp••rit into those bo••ies w••ich w••re g••nerate•• ••y them: was this Gods blessing he gave unt•• them, that they s•• u•••• gen••rate and beget bodi••s, and he would pu•• souls into them as fast as th••y be∣get bodies; by this rule t••••re was no life in th•• seed of Adam and Eve; and this I say▪ if there had not been life in the seed, there could have bin no b ••i••s generated neith••r; and if it b•• g••ant d, that there is an invisi••l•• life in the seed, else no body cou••d be ge∣nerated at all: so that if the invisible life in the seed doth ge∣nerate and ••rodu••e a bo y, else no body at al•• coul•• be g n••rated nor begotten ••••th same invisible life in th•• se••d, that ••••th in ge∣neration produce a visible body, it produceth a visible soul also, so that body and soul is generated by man and wom••n, and was the true meaning of God, when he said, Increase and multiply and replenish the earth with Sons and Daughters.

But by Penns Ass••rtion he makes God to b•• a Negromancer or Conjurer, to cause spirits to enter into dead bo••ies and carry them about, and make them to w••••k, wa k and talk f••r a time, an•• when sickness or death c mes to the body, then that spirit God puts into their bod es slips out of their bo••ies when they stand in most need of the Spirits assista••ce it is 〈◊〉〈◊〉 away from the body, n••••e k••oweth 〈…〉〈…〉th••••, except into t••e ••••ir: T••is ••s Penns opini••n, and he is not shamed to publish such a gross ••••∣no••ant principle in the ••••••••gs o•• natures bo••i••s, the bea••t•• of the ••art••, and t e Fowls: ••••d in the mi••st of ••••aven, and the Fish in the wa••••r, 〈◊〉〈◊〉 b••••sed them, and placed a Law 〈…〉〈…〉ene∣ration in t••e 〈…〉〈…〉 ••••crease and multiply and replenish the earth an•• 〈◊〉〈◊〉 and t••ey cannot inctease and multiply no other way but by ••••••••ration•• a•••• do y••u Penn believe indeed, that the b••ast 〈…〉〈…〉 beget ••••e ••ife and soul of the beast in gene∣ration as well as the bo••ies, won cannot deliver ••ours••lf f om the d••rt of this Scr••pture. A g•••••• 〈◊〉〈◊〉 upon 〈◊〉〈◊〉 do you be••••••ve that the beasts of the ea•••••• 〈◊〉〈◊〉 gener••••e 〈…〉〈…〉 and that Gods vast spirit doth 〈◊〉〈◊〉 life and 〈…〉〈…〉, for the beasts have ••ife and s••ul in them as man 〈◊〉〈◊〉 ••nd God ble••••ed the beasts with the same law of generation to increase and mul∣tiply and replenish the earth, as he did ••o man•• and we see by ex∣perience, that man and beast doth i••c••e••se and multiply in the earth no other way but by generating•• now t••e c••se is, whether you Penn do believe, that the life or soul of the b asts be genera∣ted with their bodies, I or no: if you g a••t th•• b asts generate and beget the life and soul with th body, and that there can be no separating the life and soul of a beast from the body, but if one be destroyed the other is destroyed also: the cas is the same with man: if a beast beget body and s••ul in generating, by ver∣tue of that invisible lffe in the s••ed, through the warmness of the Womb, it congealeth body and substance together, and in its sea∣son, as God hath appointed to nature, this invisible life in the seed, it quickens int•• a sensible and visibl•• life, and this visible life cannot be seen but by a visible body, so that without contro∣versie,

if the beast beget soul and body by generating, as is most certainly true, so without controversie the soul of man is gene∣rated with the body, and he that begetteth the body of his son begets the soul also, neither can the••e be any separation of soul and body one from the other, for they were both generated and b••got together, th••y came both nto the world together, they b••th l••ved together, and both die together, and shall both rise to∣geth••r in the Resurrection, the Scriptures are full to prove this point.

See Gen. 49.1. And God blessed Noah and his sons, and said unto them, Be fruitful and multip••y and rcplenish the earth; and in Gen. 8.17. Bring f••rth with thee, every living thing that is with thee of all flesh, both of fowl, and of cattel, and of every creepi g thi••g that creepeth upon the earth, that they may breed abundantly in th•• earth, and be fruitful and multiply upon the earth: so in Gen. 46.22. these are the sons of Rachel which were born to Iacob, all the souls were fourteen; and ver. 25. these were the sons of Bilbah ••h•• ba••e unto Iacob, all the souls w••re s••ven, ver. 26. All the souls that came with Iacob into Egypt, that came out of his loines, all ••h•• souls were threescore and six, ver 27. And the sons of Ioseph that w••re born in Egypt were two souls, and the s••uls of the house of Iacob which came into Egypt were three∣score and ten.

Can there be any plainer and clearer Scripture, that the soul and body of man is gen ra••ed and begotten by man; If so many souls came out of the loyns of Jacob, they must needs come out of his loins in his seed by generation, so that he begot the souls by generating with those w••men as well as their bodies; but what shall a man say to blinde serp••nts; a man had as good throw stones against the winde, as speak to them of Scripture, or meanings and interpretations of Sc••ipture; but for Penn the Quaker, he cannot understand that the soul can be generated with the body, though the Scripture be 〈◊〉〈◊〉 so clear, and Nature doth prove it every day,

one soul or other is generated, but all will not stop his mouth, nor open the eyes of his understanding, for he is as ignorant of this as he was of earth and water being made of nothing, in that he w••uld have G••d to infuse some of that great spirit and soul into those bodi s that are generate••, and not for man to beget soul and body: this is that Antichristian spirit rules in the Quakers people in t••ese last tim••s.

Who would ••ave thought that learned Penn had be n so blinde and igno••ant of th•• law o•• generation: but I see God hath don•• by him as he did by those Serpents in Christs time, he hath eyes but sets not, ears but h••ars not, and a heart but he understands not: but he being given ov••r to blindness of minde, as well in the natural as in the spiritual: yet he hath searched about the Colledge at the University to finde out the soul of man, when the bo••y was cut op••n, so that if the soul be generated by man, Penn counts it no difficult thing to finde out the soul when a man is Anatomized then any other part: and if Penn could but see a living man open∣ed or dissected, as he hath seen at the University living beasts A∣natomized, it would not be impossible but rational: but that ••enn m••ght behold the very thoughts, purposes and intents of such mens hearts and souls.