The Querers and Quakers cause at the second hearing. Or, The Quakers antiquering advocate examined: his pleadings found light and weake, his language lewd and railing, his prinicples loose and large. The quaking and entransed faction discovered to be a new branch of an old root, revivied by Satan; some of their strange ungospel-like tenents, unchristian practises, and opinions fathered upon the spirit, to be abhorred, and avoided by all holy soules, are also discovered, and truly laid open.

Replie to Antiquer.

There was Reason to put in the word Ordinarily, because Ex∣traordinary things fall not under Rule; nor common practise But quaking with noyse and strange motions is ordinary with the people that worship your strong imaginations▪ I had almost said, that have sent upon them strong delusions to believe lies. Yet you are resolved on it, if the Scripture speake of any extraordi∣nary tremblings; it is enough to justifie yours. Now sute Master Advocate you have not Littleton for this, and Scripture will not serve you to justifie it. If it be comprehended in any, you say it serves. I perceive any thing will serve you. Will this serve you? There was a trembling in the hoste of the Philistims they trembled and quaked and it was a very great trembling, or as trembling of God. I judge this will not serve you, though comprehended in

Scriptures, for this was an extraordinary quaking sent upon the Philistims and not upon Israel, you would not have your Clients taken for Philistims. I shall come to your minde, in those Scri∣ptures, that is, in those mentioned in the Quaere, and where trembling is not onely comprehended but commended. Well, in those Scriptures of standing in awe, Psal. 4. Repenting before the Lord and walk humbly with God, Mic. 6. I doe not conceive there is commended or comprehended any extraordinary trembling, but what is or should be ordinary in every holy soule, that is of a meeke, melting, humble, holy spirit, that feares the Lord and his goodnesse. You will hardly have Rhetorique enough to per∣swade any solid Christians, that if they will doe as all former Saints did, stand in awe of God, and walke humbly with the Lord, they must needes turne into entransings and quakings. Doe not you know, that the feare and holy awe of the soule was as well, and better evidenced by studying to observe Gods commands, and to depart from evill, then by any wrestings or wringings of the body into Antique appearances? Then you tell us that some of the servants of God have beene shaken, as if all their bones were out of joynt, and made to roare, and that is sufficient to prove it, because David, though a strong one, was a type of the weake ones, and you say, he that is weake shall be as David. Davids bones being as it were out of joynt, his being shaken and his roaring, if you doe not, others understand it thus, that by these phrases expressing paine and trouble in the body, is not meant any other then the fearefull and sad state of his troubled soule, by apprehending the grievousnesse of Gods anger against him for sinne, the heavy evill of Gods clouding his face, and hiding the joy of his salvation from him. His roaring was his earnestnesse of praying, calling, sighing after God. He perhaps might not speake one word, when he sometimes roared unto God, for the earnest and holy applyings of the troubled soule to God, by humble, penitent, believing sighs and groanes are roarings, and better then loudest cries in Gods eares. The Lord said to Moses, why cryest thou to me? We heare not of his crying, but we are sure his soule cryed and roared with the high language of faith, and earnest, zealous, secret and spirituall pleadings with God, better then all words. So Hanah spoke in her heart to the Lord, and

yet the Lord heard it. David may mention his roaring to God, when he spoke it may be in a word: and his bones being all as it were out of joint and shaken, when the body shewed no outward motion, but it was the commotion and trouble of his distempered soule and spirit. For that Scripture of Zacharie, The weake shall be as David▪ applied unto Davids quaking and roaring, it is a childs arrow shot without aiming at any marke, or a wrong marke. Indeed when God hides his face from weake soules, they shall be sh••ken and troubled in their spirits, as David was, in some measure. But what is this to falling on the ground and quaking? you may abuse other things with lesse guilt then abuse the Scripture. Let me set you right here with∣out any abusing you, or the prophet Zacharie. The meaning of this is, the weak shall be as David, that is, when God shall visit his Church with grace and mercy, and they shall repent and turne to him, he will blesse them all, and make the weake soules that had falne, upon their repentance, rise up with as much cou∣rage, joy, and spirituall strength to walke in the service of the Lord, as David did. He will not onely shew mercy to the strong ones, but he will protect the weak ones also, and make them strong in faith and comforts of faith, as David was.

The rest that you have in the Antiquerie are but flourishes of swords you speake beaten into plough shares; of every one that is high and lifted up to be brought low, the Honourable brought to con∣tempt: Idols of silver and gold cast to Moles and Bats for feare of the Lord and glory of his Majestie, when he arises to shake terribly the earth. Do you thinke all the overturnings of Kingdomes, People, places threatned in Scripture are proofes and arguments with an Ergo, we must fall into a Transe after this manner? It is a good Argument, since God will so exalt his power and ju∣stice against sinners, therefore we ought to search and try our waies and turne unto him; since God comes to humble and bring downe all that is proud and high. If I were a Preacher, with your leave I would make this use of it: Let us humble our selves by repentance and seeke to the Lord for mercy, that when he comes to humble all the lofty of the earth, he may finde us kindely and rightly humble to his hand. This humbling and turning penitents, may be, I judge, without turning Quakers.

—At last you tell us, these things are foretold, & must come to pass, & how shall they be Ordinary when they seldome, or never were before? — What doe you meane? Were the Honourable of the earth never humbled before? Did the Lord never shake the earth before? There have beene great alterations in Church and State before your time and mine. God has heretofore poured out the fury of warre, plagues, famines, depopulations, and strong judgements in the dayes of our Ancestors, yea from the be∣ginning of the world. Are you in a Transe too, that you say these were seldome or never before, and then how should they be Ordinary? I pray consider your selfe, and minde what you write; if this be believed by you, your judgement is but very ordinary, and theirs so too that depend upon it.

Notes

• Sam. 19.15.
• Zach. 12.8.
• Exod. 14.15.
• 1 Sam. 1.
• Esay 2.4.12, 13 Esay 23.9. Esay 2.18.19, 20, 21.