A manuel of controversies clearly demonstrating the truth of Catholique religion by texts of Holy Scripture, councils of all ages, Fathers of the first 500 yeers, common sense and reason, and fully answering the principal objections of Protestants and all other sectaries / by H.T.

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A manuel of controversies clearly demonstrating the truth of Catholique religion by texts of Holy Scripture, councils of all ages, Fathers of the first 500 yeers, common sense and reason, and fully answering the principal objections of Protestants and all other sectaries / by H.T.
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Turberville, Henry, d. 1678.
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At Doway :: by Laurence Kellam,
1654.
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Catholic Church -- Doctrines.
Catholic Church -- Catechisms.
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"A manuel of controversies clearly demonstrating the truth of Catholique religion by texts of Holy Scripture, councils of all ages, Fathers of the first 500 yeers, common sense and reason, and fully answering the principal objections of Protestants and all other sectaries / by H.T." In the digital collection Early English Books Online 2. https://name.umdl.umich.edu/A63860.0001.001. University of Michigan Library Digital Collections. Accessed May 3, 2024.

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Objections solved.

Ob. WE separated only from the Church of Rome's errors.

Answ. Yes, from her Catholike and Aposto∣licall Doctrines: She doth not erre in Faith, as hath been proved. I answer therfore with S. Augustine to the Donatists▪ object to you the crime of schism, which you will deny, and I will pre∣sently prove, because you do not communicate with all nations, cont. Petil. Add, no nor with any Nation before Luther.

Ob. We refus'd only the Church of Rome's innovations and superstitions.

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Answ. You slander. Her Discipline and Doctrines were the same then, that they had been in all precedent ages. Did the Church perish (saith S. Augustine to the Donatists) or did she not? If she did, what Church then brought forth the Donatists? (or the Protestants?) If she did not, what madness moved you to separate your selves from her, on pretence of avoiding the communion of bad men? l. 1. cont. Gaudent. c. 7. And again; We are certain no man can justly separate himself from the communion of all Na∣tions, (yet Martin Luther and Mr. Tyndall did it) Epist. 48. And in another place; All separation made before the drawing the nt on the shore (at the day of judgment) is damnable, and the sacriledge of schism, which sur∣passeth all other crimes. L. 2. cont. Epist. Parmen.

Ob. We did but separate from the particu∣lar Church of Rome. Therefore not from the whole Church.

Answ. I told you in the question of the Churchs Universality in what sense the Church of Rome is Universal or Catholique, and in what sense she is particular, take it in which acception you will, your consequence is false, for whosoever separates from an acknowledg∣ed tr•••• member of the Catholique Church (and such the Church of Rome then was in her particular) he consequently separates from the whole, and is an heretike, or schisma∣tike.

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