The second replie of Thomas Cartwright: agaynst Maister Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Churche discipline

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The second replie of Thomas Cartwright: agaynst Maister Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Churche discipline
Author
Cartwright, Thomas, 1535-1603.
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[Heidelberg] :: Imprinted [by Michael Schirat],
M.D.LXXV. [1575]
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Subject terms
Whitgift, John, 1530?-1604. -- Defense of the Aunswere to the Admonition, against the Replie of T.C. -- Controversial literature -- Early works to 1800.
Fielde, John, d. 1588. -- Admonition to the Parliament -- Early works to 1800.
Church of England -- Discipline -- Early works to 1800.
Church of England -- Controversial literature -- Anglican authors -- Early works to 1800.
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"The second replie of Thomas Cartwright: agaynst Maister Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Churche discipline." In the digital collection Early English Books Online 2. https://name.umdl.umich.edu/A18080.0001.001. University of Michigan Library Digital Collections. Accessed June 4, 2024.

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To the next sect. pag. 28.

IFF this sentence (he that is a good and a modest preacher will not disdaine as well to be taught as teach) be not an idle vagabonde / and broken loose from all his followes: then it must needes be a reason off that wherin yow said before / that yow knew no man so well learned, but yt might become him to reade and learne Maister Nowellles Cathechisme and the Argument is as I haue gathered it. For yow to proue that yt becommeth the authors off the admonition to learne that Cathechisme / adde that the place off Timothie / dothe not forbidd to learne. And againe a Modest preacher will not disdaine to be taught. So that this is your argument / A modest preacher must be taught / therfore he must learne that Cathechisme / and therfore must be en∣ioyned to learne yt. And iff yow saie that yow set yt downe to shew / that no man is so well learned but he may learne still / or to shew that the place off Saint Paule dothe not forbidd to learne: I aske to what purpose? Considering that the authors off the admonition / do not denie that a Minister owght to learne: but that yt is vnmeete for a Mynister to be enioyned to learne Cathechismes. And as for all the ar∣gumentes which the D. gatherethe himselfe owt off this pla¦ce / they are so manie witnesses against him / that he fowght with his owne shadowe. For where he still concludethe they may reade Cathechismes / he concludeth that whiche the admo¦nition denieth not: but that whiche the admonition denieth to be meete / (which is to driue a minister to learne Cathechis∣mes) he neuer concludeth. Yt shalbe therfore at your owne choise / whether yow will haue that your argument that I ha∣ue framed / or els that yow haue not spoken to the matter.

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