The English concord in ansvver to Becane's English iarre: together with a reply to Becan's Examen of the English Concord. By Richard Harris, Dr. in Diuinitie.

BECAN. Exam.

I Repeate that vvhich I had vvritten before: If a dissention should arise in England, touching some point of faith, as of the Reall prefence of Christ in the Eucharist; what should the subiects doe? Should they goe to the King as supreame Iudge? Hainrick vvould haue it so; but Tooker would not suf∣fer it: The King himselfe sonds euery man to his owne consci∣ence, and you would hault on both sides. Touching that vvhich you bring out of o••r discords, touching it. The Pope, as vniuersal Bishop. 2. Faith to be kept with Hereticks. 3. The body of Christ broken, and chewed or grinded in the Eucharist. 4. The Reall presence of his body vvithout quantity: It is false, we dissent not heerein; and though we did, doth it therefore follow, that you dis∣sent not in the point of your Churches Primate? That is most foolish.

D^r. HARRIS Reply.

INdeed the Iesuit is heere become very foolish, and childish; and come to this, Repetamus omnia breui∣ter, yet sets him downe in his chaire of pestilence; that is, scornfulnes; with Iesuiticall, viz. the greatest impudencie, scoffing very impiously and ridiculously, our Kings sacred Maiestic, as those cursed miscreants did our Sauiour Christ. They cried, All haile King of the lewes: and this Iesuit, in effect cries, All haile King of England, supreme Iudge there, in controuersies of faith.

Touching the Reall presence, there is no discord a∣mongst vs: but therein are discords endlesse amongst the Papists; as in the other points heere mentioned, though this Iesuit with brasen face deny the same. If any man, hauing an honest and good hart, doubt in a∣ny matter of faith, our King hath heere put that man in the King of heauen his high way, to put him our of doubt, viz. by sending him, to the Law, and to the Go∣spell. Thirther flie wee, and not to our King, in con∣trouersies of faith. But miserable Papists, who leaue the law & Gospell, as dead Inke: whither should they flie in their controuersies of faith? To the Pope? be∣like as the Thomists and Scotists did.

The case was this: There fell out betweene those two Sects, this odious quarrell, Whether the Virgine Mary were conceiued in sinne, or no. The one side, said yea: The other faction, cried nay. Their factions encreased, the Schooles were enflamed, & the world troubled: No Doctor, no Coucell, was able to accord

them. The Scotists alleaged for themselues the Coun∣cell of Basil. The Thomists said, that Councell was dis∣orderly summoned, and therefore vnlawfull.

In the midds of these broyles, Pope Sixtus tooke vpon him, as supreme Iudge, to determine that contro∣uersie in faith between them. When all the world ex∣pected his resolution, desirous to bee satisfied in that question; The Pope commaunded both the Thomists, and the Scotists, to depart home, and to dispute no more of that matter: and so left them as doubtfull as he found them.

Could not a Supreme Iudge made of clowts, haue done the office of a supreme Iudge therein, as vvell as Pope Sixtus; that is to say, haue done iust nothing?

Lastly, whereas this trifling Sophister, framing his childish argument [Papist Writers iarre in many points: Therefore English Writers iarre not in the poynt of their Kings Primacy] vpon the anvile of his owne fantasie onely; and so framed, would father it vpon mee: let his fatherhood learne by this reply, that my onely scope therein was, in vrging him to the quick, by those obiected iarres, as it were, by so many incisions of his Basilica vaine, to giue a vent vnto that falt, fierie, scoffing humour of his, at our seeming iarrs, which in his plethorick body, was so redundant, and put•• ifying in him: As also to giue him to vnderstand, how pat those words of our Sauiour Christ fall vpon his head; viz. Hypocrite, first cast out the beame out of thine owne eye, and then shalt thou see cleerely to cast out the mote out of thy brothers eye.

Their Popish Iarres, are Beame-Iarres: our English seeming Iarres, are lesse then Mote-Iarres. In truth,

they are no Iarres, at all, but true Concords. And thus is his froath once againe scattered to nothing.

Notes

• Pag. 107.
• Esay 8.
• Math. 7. v-5.