A detection of sundrie foule errours, lies, sclaunders, corruptions, and other false dealinges, touching doctrine, and other matters vttered and practized by M.Iewel, in a booke lately by him set foorth entituled, a defence of the apologie. &c. By Thomas Harding doctor of diuinitie.

Iewel.

Pope Damasus shevveth vs, that a greate number of Bishoppes of Rome vvere Priestes sonnes: As Pope Syluerius: Pope Deus dedit: Pope Adria∣nus. 2. Pope Iohn. 15. Pope Felix. 3. Pope Hosius: Pope agapetus: Pope Gelasius: Pope Bonifacius: Pope Iohn. 10. Pope Theodorus. And conclu∣deth thus: Complures etiam alij inueniuntur, qui de Sacerdoti∣bus nati Apostolicae Sedi praefuerunt: many others beside there are founde, that being Priestes Sonnes, ruled the Apostolique See of Rome.

Harding.

What shal I say vnto this felow? Who euer saw so im∣pudent a man? Doth Pope Damasus shew you al this M. Iewel? Phy for shame man. You a minister of Gods worde? Nay, a minister of vaine Fables, a minister of open lyes. What may we cal this in you, foolish igno∣rance, or shamelesse malice? How could you be so igno∣rant, or so witlesse, as once to dreame, that Damasus that learned Pope should thus write? That you might seeme a ioily proctour for your brothers the married Apostates sacrilegious, incestuous, and abominable yoking (for Mar∣riage is too honorable a name for that filthinesse) must Damasus needes be made a Prophete, and such a Pro∣phete, as the worlde had neuer the like? A Prophete I say, for onlesse he had a strange gifte of Prophecie, how was it possible, that he should tel, who should be the Fa∣thers of menne borne so many yeres after his death?

Consider Reader I pray thee (for it booteth not to tel it M. Iewel) how this tale hangeth together. Damasus was the .39. Pope. Syluerius, whom M. Iewel putteth in the first place, was the .60. Pope. Deus dedit was the .70. Pope. Adrianus the seconde was the .109. Pope. Iohn the .15. was the .143. Felix the thirde was the .50. Agapetus

was the .59. Gelasius the .51. Bonifacius the first (whereas there were diuers of that name, whom he meaneth I know not) was the .44. Ihon the tenth was the .126. Theo∣dorus the first (if he meane any other of that name, he was farther of from Damasus) was the .75. Pope.

As for Pope Hosius, he is a Pope of M. Iewels owne making Verely in al the Registres of Popes I find none so named. A smal mater, if M. Iewel, who maketh so many Popes Priestes sonnes, make vs one Pope, who is neither Priestes, nor laie mānes sonne, nor any mānes sonne at al. What a maruelous Prophet then was M. Iewels Damasus, that could thus prophecie of so many Popes so long to come after his death, and tel, who should be their fathers, so many yeres before their great Grādfathers were borne?

If for some excuse you say, that this much you found in Gratian, Distinct. 56. it cā not helpe you. The printed Gra∣tian hath neither this forme of wordes, nor this order of names, nor so many Popes names by three. For he ha∣meth not Iohn. 10. nor Iohn. 15. nor Adrian. 2. So that you must take it vpon you your selfe, and beare the shame of it. And what if the book of Gratian had it, as you haue alle∣ged? Doo you not know, that such thinges in Gratian be of no authoritie sometimes, which be rehersed vnder this worde, Palea? Palea, good Reader, is asmuche to say, as Chaffe: and where so euer this word (Palea) Chaffe, is put in Gratian, by the same it is signified, as some doo iudge, that the saying immediatly folowing is with litle iudge∣ment infarced, and that it is litle worth, as Chaffe is litle worth in cōparison of cleane wheate. Such Chaffe, and vaine fables M. Iewel is dryuen to take holde of, to main∣teine his brothers filthinesse, for lacke of better stuffe.

And were it true, that these Popes, or some of them, whose names be founde here in Gratians Chaffe, were Priestes sonnes: yet had he benne a true dealer in this cause, he should not so vniustly haue conceeled, what the Glose saith in the same place, specially seing that he is so wel acquainted with the Glose, and furnisheth his great booke specially, and aboue al other Doctours, with the stuffe of the Glose. Thus there we finde. Omnia ista exem∣pla intellige de ijs qui in Laicali statu, vel minoribus ordini∣bus orationibus parentum suscepti sunt: quando suis parenti∣bus licebat vti vxoribus suis. Vnderstande thou al these ex∣amples of them, that were receiued (at Goddes hande) by the prayers of their fathers being in the state of laie menne, or in the lesser Orders: when their fathers might lawfully vse their wiues.

Thus, for any thing you haue brought hitherto, is your Great Poste of Priestes Marriages, thwited to a pudding pricke. As for that, whiche after al this you pretende to allege out of AEneas Syluius, whom you cal Pope Pius, whereas at the time when he wrote De gestis Concilij Ba∣siliensis, he was neither Pope, nor Pius, and out of Polydo∣rus Vergilius the late Prebendarie of Poules in London (whom in the Chronicles you reporte falsly) and laste of al out of fabling Fabian the late Merchant of London, a man of smal learning, and of as litle authoritie in these pointes, though a special fauourer of your side, as it is tolde, and therefore the readier to reporte vntruth: I am sure menne of meane knowledge wil litle esteme, and I accompt it not worth the answering. Make the best you can of it, thereby perhaps, or by some part of it, ye may proue, that of Married menne some were made Bishops,

which as I haue oftentimes tolde you, we denie not: but that Bishoppes, or Priestes were euer in any wel ordered Churche permitted to marrie, you shal neuer be hable to proue.

Now that you haue laid your two Principles, as you cal them, let vs see how substancially you defende your foure pointes aboue mencioned. And first, that it is law∣ful to marry after the Vowe of Chastitie, and after holy Orders taken, shewe vs by what learning, or authoritie ye proue it.

Notes

• Distin. 56 Osius. A vaine and a fonde thing as∣cribed to Damasus, as though he vvrote of thīges done lōg after his death.
• Pope Ho∣sius, a Pope of M. Iewels making.
• Palea.
• Distinct. 56. in Glossa.
• AEneas Syluius.
• Polydorus Vergil.
• Fabian.