A detection of sundrie foule errours, lies, sclaunders, corruptions, and other false dealinges, touching doctrine, and other matters vttered and practized by M.Iewel, in a booke lately by him set foorth entituled, a defence of the apologie. &c. By Thomas Harding doctor of diuinitie.

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A detection of sundrie foule errours, lies, sclaunders, corruptions, and other false dealinges, touching doctrine, and other matters vttered and practized by M.Iewel, in a booke lately by him set foorth entituled, a defence of the apologie. &c. By Thomas Harding doctor of diuinitie.
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Harding, Thomas, 1516-1572.
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Lovanii :: Apud Ioannem Foulerum,
Anno 1568.
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Jewel, John, 1522-1571. -- Defence of the Apologie of the Churche of Englande.
Catholic Church -- Apologetic works.
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"A detection of sundrie foule errours, lies, sclaunders, corruptions, and other false dealinges, touching doctrine, and other matters vttered and practized by M.Iewel, in a booke lately by him set foorth entituled, a defence of the apologie. &c. By Thomas Harding doctor of diuinitie." In the digital collection Early English Books Online 2. https://name.umdl.umich.edu/A02637.0001.001. University of Michigan Library Digital Collections. Accessed June 6, 2024.

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Iewel. 133.

S. Cyprian saith, Si canalis aquae &c. If the pipes of the conduit,* 1.1 which before ranne with abundance, happen to faile, do we not vse to search to the head? The priestes of God keeping Gods commaundementes, must doo the same, that if the truth hath fainted, or failed in any point, we returne to the very original of our Lorde, and to the Tradition of the Gospel, and of the Apo∣stles, that there hence we may take the discretion of our doo∣inges, from whence the order it selfe, and original first beganne.

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Harding.

* 1.2It is to be knowen M. Iewel, that S. Cyprian vsed this saying in an euil cause, as your selfe can not denie. And therefore he defending a falshood, was driuen to the very same shiftes, whereunto al Heretikes are driuen. He in deede was no Heretike. For although he falsely beleued an vntruth, and earnestly taught, that those, who had ben baptized of Heretiques, if they came to the vnitie of the Catholike Churche, should be baptized, as hauing before no true sacrament of Baptisme, yet he protested many times, that he iudged no man, that thought, or taught the contrarie.* 1.3 For he would not denie vnitie, neither for that, nor for any thing elles, but liued a true Catholique, and died a blessed Martyr.

Notwithstanding, whiles he defended his errour, he was deceiued in that Principle, which now you allowe. For whereas Pope Stephanus, knowing, that by Successiō the vse of the only laying of handes vpon them that had ben baptized of heretikes, without baptizing them a new, was deriued from the Apostles, and receiued generally euen in Afrike it selfe, vntil Agrippinus a Bishop of Car∣thage before S. Cyprian brake it: whereas Pope Stepha∣nus, I say, knowing this, decreed, that nothing should be changed, or be taken vp a new: S. Cyprian not being able to denie the tradition, whereof Pope Steuen spake, and which S. Cyprians predecessour Agrippinus first beganne to change, fled to this common place, that the worde of God was against the custome, and therefore the custome ought to be broken.

The Pope defended with diuers other Bishops, tht the custome, and Tradition was not against Gods worde.

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Then said S. Cyprian, seing we are at variance, let vs re∣sorte to the very beginning, and to the Original, which is our Lordes worde, and the Apostolike Tradition. This was wel said. But the Apostolike Tradition was so, as Pope Steuen defended, and not so as S. Cyprian woulde haue had it. And this M. Iewel neither doo you, nor can you denie. For your selfe I trow, wil not allow, that they should be baptized againe in your owne Churche, that haue ben before baptized in an other Churche, which ye accompte for false, heretical, or schismatical. What meant you then to consecrate S. Cyprians errour, and to allege his authoritie therein, where it ought not to be ad∣mitted and allowed? But with you the ouersightes of the Fathers, the errours of the Greekes, the sayinges of heretiques, the examples of Schismatiques, the obiections of Schoolemen, and Canonistes, and the pelfe of Gloses is alwaies good stuffe.

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