A detection of sundrie foule errours, lies, sclaunders, corruptions, and other false dealinges, touching doctrine, and other matters vttered and practized by M.Iewel, in a booke lately by him set foorth entituled, a defence of the apologie. &c. By Thomas Harding doctor of diuinitie.
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A detection of sundrie foule errours, lies, sclaunders, corruptions, and other false dealinges, touching doctrine, and other matters vttered and practized by M.Iewel, in a booke lately by him set foorth entituled, a defence of the apologie. &c. By Thomas Harding doctor of diuinitie.
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Harding, Thomas, 1516-1572.
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Lovanii :: Apud Ioannem Foulerum,
Anno 1568.
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Jewel, John, 1522-1571. -- Defence of the Apologie of the Churche of Englande.
Catholic Church -- Apologetic works.
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"A detection of sundrie foule errours, lies, sclaunders, corruptions, and other false dealinges, touching doctrine, and other matters vttered and practized by M.Iewel, in a booke lately by him set foorth entituled, a defence of the apologie. &c. By Thomas Harding doctor of diuinitie." In the digital collection Early English Books Online 2. https://name.umdl.umich.edu/A02637.0001.001. University of Michigan Library Digital Collections. Accessed April 30, 2024.
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Iewel. Pag. 90.
Consider M. Harding, notvvithstanding ye euermore tel vs of Fa∣thers, Fathers, yet hovv contrary oftentimes, ye are in iudgement to the same Fathers. You saie, that the Godhed of the holy Ghoste, can not be proued by expresse vvordes of the Scriptures, and thereof ye say, ye are right sure.
Harding. That M. Iewel is not able to proue by Scripture certaine truthes, whiche with the Catho∣liques he teacheth touching the holy Ghoste.
What folie is in frowardnesse, it appeareth by M. Iew∣els trauaile to proue the Godhed of the holy Ghoste by Scriptures, which I neuer denied, nor euer gaue him such issue to proue. But where he confesseth a Trinitie, and that the holy Ghost is the thirde person in the holy Tri∣nitie, whiche holy Ghost also he confesseth to proceede from the Father, and the Sonne, though al these partes be true and Catholique: yet I saie he is neuer hable to proue any of these pointes by any expresse wordes of the Scriptures.
Where can he finde this worde, Trinitie, in this si∣gnification, in al Scripture? Where hath he this worde, Person, in this signification in any place of the Scripture? Where hath he in any expresse wordes of the Scripture,
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that the holy Ghoste proceedeth from the Father, and the Sonne? Or where hath he in al the Scripture, that the holy Ghost is rather the thirde Person in Trinitie, then the seconde?
These are the pointes that M. Iewel is charged to proue by expresse wordes of Scripture, and not that the Holy Ghoste is God. The worde, Transubstantiation, they abhorre, bicause it is no where founde expressely in Scri∣pture, and yet they acknowledge the worde, Trinitie, and the worde, Person, both First, Seconde, and Thirde, though these wordes be no where founde expressely in these significations in the whole bodie of the Scri∣ptures. So can these craftie Iuglers, and false peruerters of Goddes truthe doo, when they be disposed, chan∣ging them selues into al manner colours like the beast Chameleon, excepte the colour of good meaning, and plaine dealing, into whiche for any long time, they can not change them selues.