A detection of sundrie foule errours, lies, sclaunders, corruptions, and other false dealinges, touching doctrine, and other matters vttered and practized by M.Iewel, in a booke lately by him set foorth entituled, a defence of the apologie. &c. By Thomas Harding doctor of diuinitie.

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A detection of sundrie foule errours, lies, sclaunders, corruptions, and other false dealinges, touching doctrine, and other matters vttered and practized by M.Iewel, in a booke lately by him set foorth entituled, a defence of the apologie. &c. By Thomas Harding doctor of diuinitie.
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Harding, Thomas, 1516-1572.
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Lovanii :: Apud Ioannem Foulerum,
Anno 1568.
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Jewel, John, 1522-1571. -- Defence of the Apologie of the Churche of Englande.
Catholic Church -- Apologetic works.
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"A detection of sundrie foule errours, lies, sclaunders, corruptions, and other false dealinges, touching doctrine, and other matters vttered and practized by M.Iewel, in a booke lately by him set foorth entituled, a defence of the apologie. &c. By Thomas Harding doctor of diuinitie." In the digital collection Early English Books Online 2. https://name.umdl.umich.edu/A02637.0001.001. University of Michigan Library Digital Collections. Accessed April 30, 2024.

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M. Ievvel. The Apologie. Parte. 6. cap. 6. Diuis. 1.

The Canonistes say, the Pope can doe asmuche, as Christe himselfe can doe.

To this I said, it is false, and sclaunderous. M. Iewel replieth.

These wordes be most manifest, and out of al question: Excepto peccato, Papa potest quicquid Deus ipse potest. Excepte sinne, the Pope can doo asmuche, as God him selfe can doo.

This is a most manifest, and out of al question (to vse this mannes owne wordes) a foule corruption. Certaine∣ly Hostiensis saith not so. But bicause the Pope is the Vi∣care of Christe in earth, and God ratifieth, what so euer he doth in binding, or loosing, so it be donne duely, and rightly, Claue non errante, as the Canonistes speake:

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hauing reckened certaine thinges, wherein the Pop hath authoritie as vnder God, and as Christes high offi∣cer, he concludeth with these wordes. Breuiter, except peccat, quasi omnia de iure potest, vt Deus. Briefly, excepte sinne, he hath power, as a man would say, in al thinges, of right, as God. Thus saith Hostiensis, and not as M. Iewel belieth him. And this saying being rightly vnderstanded, is a true saying.

What soeuer the Pope doth, or God doth by the Pope, that is aboue the power, and authoritie of man: the same is he said to doo, not as man, but, vt Deus, as God, bicause he doth it, as being the Vicare of Christe, as bearing the steede of God. And therfore it is said by the learned Canonistes (wherewith also M. Iewel beside learning, or reason findeth fault) that the Consistorie of God, and the Pope is one Consistorie, as a Bishops, and his Chancellours Cōsistorie, is one and the same Cōsistorie.

Now, let vs consider the impudencie of this false Mi∣nister. First he auoucheth his shamelesse lye boldly, as though, where truth faileth, for shew of proufe, the mat∣ter might be stowted out. The wordes (saith he) be most ma∣nifest, and out of al questiō. Excepto peccato, Papa potest, quic∣quid Deus ipse potest. That is to say, the Pope can do as much, as Christ him self can do. But what if these wordes be not most manifest? Is it not then a most manifest impuden∣cie, so to affirme of them? What if they be not out of al doubte? Is it not then out of al doubte, that this Mini∣ster is a Minister of lyes? Certainely the wordes of Ho∣stiensis be those very precise wordes, which here I haue alleged, and no other. See then good Reader this mannes truthe, whereof he so muche craketh.

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First, he corrupteth the sentence by leauing out sun∣dry the Doctours wordes, and telleth his tale for him in such wise, as he may finde occasion to carpe him. For he hath nipte away, first, this worde, Breuiter, which admo∣nisheth the redaer to haue recourse to that goeth before: then this worde, Quasi, which being added, by good dis∣cretion mitigateth and qualifieth the saying, that other∣wise perhaps might seeme ouer vehement: then againe, those other wordes of necessarie importance, ot̄a, de iure, and, vt. Next, he corrupteth the sentence by putting too of his owne those wordes (besides Papa, for which I greatly blame him not) quicquid, and, Ipse, and that by way of emphasie, that the whole might seme the more absurd.

Besides al this he inuerteth the whole sentence, and maketh of Hostiensis true and reasonable saying, a blasphe∣mous, and onde saying of his owne, whereof that great learned man did neuer so muche as dreame. And who woulde thincke, that any man hauing his right witte, woulde speake so vainely, and so farre biyonde al suffe∣rance of Christian eares, that the Pope can doo as muche, as God him selfe can doo? And yet must al this be faced out, and M. Iewel must haue leaue to saie, it is most mani∣feste, it is out of al question. Who euer saw one litle poore sentence so nipte, so hackte, so hewed and mangled, so turned, and caste in a new molde? And bicause it liked him wel, that is to saie, bicause it should mislike al good menne: he hath made great stoare of it, and hath placed it in sundry corners of his bookes, verely in his laste most vaine Defence of the Apologie, in very many places.

With suche starres he geueth light to the congregations of his sect. If this be not impudencie, what is impudencie?

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