A detection of sundrie foule errours, lies, sclaunders, corruptions, and other false dealinges, touching doctrine, and other matters vttered and practized by M.Iewel, in a booke lately by him set foorth entituled, a defence of the apologie. &c. By Thomas Harding doctor of diuinitie.

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A detection of sundrie foule errours, lies, sclaunders, corruptions, and other false dealinges, touching doctrine, and other matters vttered and practized by M.Iewel, in a booke lately by him set foorth entituled, a defence of the apologie. &c. By Thomas Harding doctor of diuinitie.
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Harding, Thomas, 1516-1572.
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Lovanii :: Apud Ioannem Foulerum,
Anno 1568.
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Jewel, John, 1522-1571. -- Defence of the Apologie of the Churche of Englande.
Catholic Church -- Apologetic works.
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"A detection of sundrie foule errours, lies, sclaunders, corruptions, and other false dealinges, touching doctrine, and other matters vttered and practized by M.Iewel, in a booke lately by him set foorth entituled, a defence of the apologie. &c. By Thomas Harding doctor of diuinitie." In the digital collection Early English Books Online 2. https://name.umdl.umich.edu/A02637.0001.001. University of Michigan Library Digital Collections. Accessed April 30, 2024.

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Item there. Iewel.

M. Harding euen in the selfe same booke, vnder certaine general threates, chargeth your Maiestie vvith disordered presumption, by the ex∣ample of Ozias the vvicked King, vpon vvhom, as he vntruly saith, God sent his vengeance for the like. Confut. fol. 298. a.

Harding.

You would faine the Queenes Maiestie should conceiue hatred against me, I perceiue M. Iewel, and thereto you applie al your skil, and cunning. But Sir, who deserueth more thankes at God, and the Princes for the time being, he, that telleth them the Truthe, and in time geueth warning to beware of Goddes Ven∣geance, before it be to late: or he, that for his owne wordly interest, holdeth his peace, and leadeth them into a wrong way, from the whiche if they returne not backe, they are sure at length to feele, either the temporal smarte of Goddes Vengeance in this life, or the euerlasting smarte in the life to come? Ye flatter, ye flat∣ter your Princes M. Iewel, ye deceiue them, ye blinde them, ye worke al meanes possible, that the Truthe be not brought to their vnderstanding, least, were it know∣en, and of them perceiued, ye should be turned out of your welthy roumes, and driuen againe to Geneua (I had almost said, Gehenna) from whence ye came. Certainely ye shutte vp the kingdome of Heauen from Princes, and others, so many as be so farre accursed of God, as to be∣leeue your wicked generation, that ye neither entre in

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thither your selues, nor suffer others to entre.

The place where the wordes be, with whiche you would incense the Queenes wrath against me, hath no general threats, as you saie, but conteine such true matter, as I am not a shamed of: confute it, if you can: verely in your Defence ye haue not done it.

Ye confounde (saie I) the offices of the spiritual Go∣uernours, and temporal Magistrates. What Kinges, and Princes maie doo, what they be commaunded to doo, and ought of duetie to doo, in Goddes name let them doo, and wel maie they so doo. Who is he that gainesaith? If by the pretensed example of Dauid, and Salomon, ye ani¦mate them to intermedle with Bishoply offices, then be∣ware they (saie we) that Goddes Vengeance light not vpon them for such wicked presumption, whiche lighted vpon king Ozias for the like offence.

I marueil you denie, that the Vengeance of God ligh∣ted vpon king Ozias, for the like Presumption to that, whereunto by your monstrous lawe, and Doctrine ye animate your Princes. Whiche parte denie you? That Goddes Vengeance lighted vpon him? Or that the Pre∣sumption is like? For proufe of the Vengeance, ye haue the plaine Scripture. 2. Paralip. 26. whiche saith, that, as he would haue burned incense to our Lorde at the Aulter of the sweete perfume, whiche belonged to the office of the Priestes only to doo, a Lepre rose in his forehead, whereupon the Priestes draue him out of the Temple, and he himselfe also made hast, that he were gonne out, saith the texte, eo quòd sensisset illicò plagam Domini, for that streight waie he felte the plague of our Lorde.

Touching the Presumption, it is like. For in bothe it is

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an vndue geuing of aduenture to doo that thing, which belongeth to Bishoply, and priestly office. And what is that which Bishoppes, and Priestes maie doo, whiche ye haue not by your Acte of Parlament geuen the Quene auctoritie to do? What power, or auctoritie is excepted, where al thinges, and causes be expressed, where I saie, by solemne othe taken before God and his holy Angelles, ye binde men to acknowledge her for the chiefe and su∣preme Head (for by your new worde, Gouernoure, ye take not awaie I trowe the meaning of your former worde Head) in al thinges and causes, as wel spiritual, as tempo∣ral? Ye know, ye know M. Iewel, this is a very large Commission for a woman to exercise in Christes Churche. Tel vs not of your newe deuised Iniunction, as for a poore shifte ye are wont to doo: so thinne a cloke wil not fence you againste so greate a storme of weather.

Although the Queene that now is, haue no great de∣lite in the exercise of al manner suche auctoritie, as ye haue put her in, yet what if after her time, there come in her place an other Prince, King, or Queene, of an other manner courage, and fansie, whom it shal like wel some∣times for his pleasure, strange deuotion, ambitiō, or pride, to doo the office, which by lawe of your Parlament is committed vnto him, as it is written of king Ozias, that, when he became mightie, and of great power, his harte was lifted vp, and he would needes doo that, whiche belon∣ged onely to the Priestes office? If it shal like suche a Prince, be he your Soueraine Lorde, or Soueraine Ladie, to go into your Pulpites, and there after your manner to raue, and raile at the Pope, at the Papistes, and to tel the

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people a peece of your lusty Geneuian Gospel, whereby they maie be stirred to allewdnesse, and carnal libertie: If I saie, the Prince, that shal succeede the Queene that now is, shal take vpon him so to doo: what wil ye saie in this case M. Iewel, and your good Brethren? Wil ye come vnto him, and tel him, Sir, if it like your Maiestie, you maie not so doo? Wil ye saie, that it belongeth to you, and to such Ministers of the word, as you are, and to none elles? Wil ye resiste him in that attempte, and driue him out of the Churche, if by that time ye shal haue any Church standing at al, as the Priestes of Iewrie resisted, and draue out of the Temple King Ozias? If your hartes shal serue you so to doo, and he replie against you, saying, that by graunt of your owne Parlament (which is a most assured warrant) ye haue geuen him the supreme power, auctoritie, and gouernement in al thinges and causes, as wel spiritual, as temporal, and that therefore he wil vse, and practise suche power, as he maie by your owne graunte: what haue ye then to saie? Wil ye then face him out with your pretie litle worthe Iniunctions deuised by two or three Ministers? Wil that serue the turne trow ye? It wil not, it wil not, ye maie be assured. Now let vs heare with what other matter M. Iewel chargeth me.

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