Truth's defence against the refined subtilty of the serpent held forth in divers answers to severall queries made by men (called ministers) in the North. Given forth by the light and power of God appearing in George Fox and Richard Hubberthorn

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Truth's defence against the refined subtilty of the serpent held forth in divers answers to severall queries made by men (called ministers) in the North. Given forth by the light and power of God appearing in George Fox and Richard Hubberthorn
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Fox, George, 1624-1691.
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Divers QUERIES of great importance, propounded by Thomas Atkinson of Cartmall in Lancashire, TO Gabriel Camelford Parson of Stafley-Chappel: with his Answers to them.

Also,

REPLIES to the ANSVVERS, wherein is layd open the subtilty and deceit of the Priest, and his Invencions, Snares, and Baits, and false Imaginations: discovered by the pure light of God, which hath shined in our hearts, and hath given us to see the darkness which he and the World live in, hating this Light which hath appeared and enlightned every one that cometh into the World, Iohn 1. 9. and all who are guided by this Light, and have a pure eye opened in them, which is the light of the bo∣dy, may see and discern the darkness, blindness, and igno∣rance of the Priest.

I Have received many confused Queries, which came from a dark minde, which would know the condici∣ons of the Apostles, or have another meaning to the Scriptures, and that minde I do deny, for if thou have the Spirit, that gave them forth, then thou wouldst witness us; but as a Serpént full of Venom, hast thou shewed forth thy self, spuing forth thy venom, which must be turned into Hell, who errest not knowing the Scriptures, and the

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power of God. Friend, in thy Queries, thou askest thou dost not know what; for some Queries were sent to thee, and thou lookedst upon them to be frivelous and absurd things, so thou mayst look upon that which Christ spoke, and the Apostles, and the Prophets, and say that is frivolous and absurd; for they were given forth all by one Spirit according to measure, as they ever did in that Gene∣ration, they are so with thy frivolous and absurd minde, though thy frivolous and absurd minde ••••serve such things for thy ends. Thou sayst they were condemned to the fier to be burned, which if they had, it would have been a figure to thy self, which Nature could do no other, for they came to torment him and thee, who are for the fier, as it is written, The Beast and the false Prophet shall be turned into the fier: you might as well have condemned the Scriptures to the fier. And I have received certain Papers, in which there is confusion, which thou callest thy Answers, and many con∣fused Queries, which hath come from a Babylonian Merchant, which hath sent some of his stuff to me, who art the scarlet-coloured Beast, and the well-favoured Harlot, proceeding from a confused minde, which art confused and come out of Egypt, from a dark un∣derstanding in whom the Prince of the Ayer lodgeth, who main∣tainst the Devils Kingdom with all thy force and might, and power, as it doth appear, which would be satisfied, who art in the unrea∣sonable nature, thy satisfaction must be Death; therefore for the simple ones sake have I freely let forth my self in a few Answers and Replies to thy unlearned and confused Queries, Questions and Answers, that thy deceit might be discovered, and the power of truth known, and the simple ones directed, and God alone glori∣fied.

To all professed Ministers, who have taken the title of Mini∣sters of the Gospel of Christ, who is the end of the Law and the Prophets, and Shadows, which shadow him forth, a few Questions to you who have taken this Office upon you.

Querie 1. Whether thou hast that Light which enlightneth every one that cometh into the world (which Light is Christ) yea or no.

Pr. Answ. Through grace and love displayed and shed abroad in my soul, I am able to say, that my beloved is mine, and I am his; and therefore all he has is mine, at least for my advantage, his light as a Prophet, and his love as a Saviour is mine, and all to teach me and lead me to my Fathers house, but thy inference thereon is absurd

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and foolish: thine do I say? I mistook, the inference of thy Ma∣ster or Scribe, for it is not thy hand-writing; and in that I won∣der, but that it is usual with you, how you can be so contradictory to your own Principles; for you generally charge others with speak∣ing that which is not their own, and yet thou comest in the face of the Congregation and givest that which is not thy own, thy self: for shame either deny your Principles, or act and speak according to them. But to let that pass, thou proceedest with this inference; if so, why dost thou deny and say that every one hath not that Light to teach them and guide them to God; Is this a sufficient inference, that bececause I have it, therefore it must not be denied but that all have it? Let any, that God hath given an understand∣ing to, judg; surely God hath left you, you have even lost your common Reason among you.

A Reply to the Pr: An. Thou sayst thou art able to say through grace, that thy Beloved is thine, and thou art his; so do the false Prophets say, He saith it, Jer. 23. 31. but thou knowest nothing of the Beloved nor of Jesus Christ which is the Beloved, nor through grace. Thou sayst all that Christ hath is thine, his Light for thy Prophet, his Love as a Saviour to guide thee to thy Fathers house; as a Thief thou hast gotten the Letter, Jer. 23. 30. and a form which Christ spoke, and that thou callest thine; but (thou enemy of Christ) thou neither knowest the Light which is Christ, that en∣lightneth every one that cometh into the world, John 1. 9. that thou canst not witness according as the Query was put to thee, nor the Pro∣phet, nor the fathers house, nor the Saviour which the Scripture speaks of; but thy fathers house thou knowest, and thy beloved which is the God of the World, and thy imagined Light which leads thee to thy fathers house, which we utterly deny, thee and thy fathers house, and thy beloved thou hast shewed, thy beloved is thine, which is thy Lust for thy gift.

Qu. 2. Whether your Gospel be the same that the Apostles preached? and if it be, Why go you to Oxford and Cambridg, when the Apostle said the Gospel he preached was not after man▪ neither was he taught it by man, neither received he it from man, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.

Priests Answer. I shall speak as to my own particular, and this through grace I have to say, God hath carryed forth my spirit to preach and to declare Christ, and him crucified, as the Apostles preached, 1 Cr. 22. and to declare the manner of Gods giving this

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gift to sinners, as the Apostles did, and that freely through grace Rom. 3. 24. the Doctrine of grace appears to be the Doctrine of the Gospel, Gal. 1. 5, 6. compared with the 9. & 10. verses. And he that preacheth another Gospel than this, is a perverter of the Gospel of Christ, and under the curse, though he seem to an Angel from Hea∣ven, 7, 8. v. Thy Inference is, If it be so, why do you not live on the Gospel? I do live on the Gospel, and that is thy trouble and grief it seems: but thou addest, when as it is said, Freely ye have received, freely give, Matth. 10. 8. If thou examinest well what is cited by thee, thou wouldst finde that this is principally spoken of healing the sick, cleansing the Lepers, raising the dead, and casting out Devils, which were things at that time more likely to get them money than preaching the Gospel: but again, if thou wilt take no notice of that, but apply it wholly to the gift of preaching, this I say, that Christ did even there approve that the Labourer was wor∣thy of his hire, Luke ••••. 7, 8.

A Reply to the Priests Answer. Thou sayst, that God hath carry∣ed forth thy spirit to preach and declare Christ, and him crucified, as the Apostles preached; I utterly deny thee to be any Preacher of Christ, or to know God or Christ, or the Word of God: and the Apostles condicion thou knowest not, and the grace of God thou art an enemy to, and thou art one of them that crucisies Christ; Matth. 7. ••••. wheresoever he is rising thou wouldst know him and crucifie him, who art giving thy Exposicions upon the Do∣ctrine of Christ, and wresting the Scriptures to thy own destructi∣on, Gal. 1. 8. being unlearned; and thou art he that preaches ano∣ther Gospel, which art a perverter of the Gospel, which art cursed, as thou hast made it openly appear in thy Queries: and thou speakest of Angels from Heaven, them thou knowest not. Friend, thou sayst thou livest upon the Gospel, but it is upon that which the Apostles spoke (the Letter) a Declaracion, that is thy Gospel, which was made manifest to the Apostles, which is not to thee, and that thou livest on and tradest withall, as a Thief and a Robber, Ier. 32. 30. and so deceivest poor people, who art a Minister of the Letter and not of the Gospel: and thou sayst, that the Labourer is worthy of his hier, but what pay did Christ give to his Labourers that he sent into his Vineyard? Did not he say, they might have but a Penny? Wilt thou be content with his wages? O thou Ene∣my to him, who art without God in the world, and thou hst shewed that Christ never sent thee to preach, therefore tho know∣est

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not his wages that he gives, but the Devil he leads thee, and thou takest his hier, and he is thy Master, for thou receivest the wages of unrighteousness, shewing thy self worse than Balaam, who loves the wages of unrighteousness, Iude 11. which wo was upon, who art without, perverting Christs words, and wresting the Scri∣ptures, and like a Thief wouldst be like one of them in thy words, but like the Devil in thy practice; and thou sayst, the doing of Mi∣racles, and the casting out Devils, and raising the Dead, were things at that time more like to get money than preaching the Gospel; O thou Enemy of God! where dost thou finde any of the Ministers of God that took money for working Miracles? Simon Magus would have bought the Spirit to have wrought Mi∣racles withall▪ but the gifts of God is not to be bought and sold for money, thou sellest thy carnal gifts, but thou & they must perish that do so, for it is your perishing minde, for thou canst not wit∣ness one of the gifts of God, nor of the Miracles of Christ, neither the dumb to speak nor the blinde to see, nor the deaf to hear, but art a silthy Beast, wich art spued out from God, dead in thy sins and trespasses, Ephes. . 1. and whereof thou wouldst have the Scripture answer thee, thou art dead from hearing of them.

Query 3. Whether you can give another meaning to the Scriptures than they are, and whether the Apostles did not give the right meaning to them, when they spoke them forth, or no, and if they did, what need learned men to give another meaning to them.

Priests Answer. What a man can do is one thing, and what he doth or desires to do is another, if no man can give an Exposition, besides the meaning of the Scriptures, me thinks you should be quiet in that particular, and not spend your breath so vainly; the same Spirit of God that gave out the Scriptures, being in the hearts of his chosen ones, doth instruct them to compare one Scripture with another, and to give out the meaning of one Scripture by another, and so it is not another meaning to the Scripture, but their own meaning though covered and veyled, till cleared and opened: and yet thou goest on, and sayst, we give another mean∣ing to them, which if thou canst charge me with, and make it good, spare me not, if not, this in the paper is of no validity, for it was given to me, but that the Apostle's meaning was often dark to a weak eye, before expounded, thou must needs confess, if thou shalt but view two or three for a trial, and clear up the meaning of the Apostle in Rom. 5. 14.

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A Reply to the Priests Answer. Thou sayest, what a man can doe is one thing, and what hee doth or desires to doe, is another thing: here thou shewest thy selfe to bee compleat in thy selfe. And thou sayest, that no man can give an exposicion besides the meaning of the Scriptures; and thou thinkest we should be quiet: we cannot let thee be quiet, who livest in thy thinkings, and de∣ceivest peeple with thy imaginacions, whom God is come to scat∣ter, and God is against thee, who art giving exposicions upon the Scriptures, and wouldst have them who live in the power of the Scriptures, to let thee alone; but thou art hee who wrests the Scriptures, 2 Pet. 3. 16. who ever was denyed; therefore thou art discovered to them who live in the power of them; all Scrip∣ture is vayled and covered from thee, and so thou wouldst give a meaning to them, and so under a colour make peeple beleeve it is the same meaning; but thou art discovered, who sayst I charge thee, I can; dost thou not say, the Scriptures are dark, I charge thee to have spoken a Ly, and art a lyar, and dost not see the Scriptures at all, and all thy imaginacions of them are lies: thou sayst the Scriptures are dark to a weak ey, here I charge thee to be a Lyar before the Living God; the darknesse is in thy selfe, and not in the Scriptures, Luke 11. 33. 34. therefore thou dost wrest the Scriptures, and dost make a Ly upon them, and turnest them into a Ly, Ier. 5. 22. O thou enemy of God, tremble before him, thou hast nothing to doe with the Scriptures. Friend, thou wouldst have mee to vieu one Scripture or two for a tryall; the Scriptures we know, but thou sayst they are dark, thou art full of darknesse, and they are as they speak; he that can receive it, let him, he that hath an ear may heare what the Spirit sayth: thou wouldest have me to give Exposicions upon the Scriptures as thou dost, whom the plagues are aded to, for as it is written, the plagues are added to hm that addeth to the Prophecy of this Book, Rev. 22. 18. and there is thy porcion; but wee know the Scriptures, and own them as they speak, but all thy Expositions of them wee do deny, for with them thou dost bewitch the peeple, but the plagues of God will be poured upon thee, for thou dost neither know the Scripture nor God, but art a lyar and of thy father the Devil, Iohn 8. 44. Thou dost also bid me clear up the meaning of the Apostle in the fift chapter to the Romans, verse 14. so heer I charge thee again that thou dost wrest this Scripture, for men of corrupt mindes do wrest them, and so thou art, but the Scriptures

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are clear; it is thy corrupt mind and heart that must be cleared: Let the Scriptures alone, thou hast nothing to do with them; thou vayn man, dost thou talk of clearing up the Scriptures who art full of filth and corrupcion! woulst thou have that cleared which was spoken from the Spirit of the Lord! thou blind hypo∣crit and Pharisy, all peeple who walk in the light, may see how thou hast uttered forth thy folly, and record against thee.

4 Query. Shew me by the Scriptures where the Ministers of Christ ever took Tythes, or Augmentacions of the world.

Pr. Answer. I shall answer but for my selfe, seeing the paper was sent to mee in particular: and my Answer is, that I take no Tythes, no nor Augmentacions, from the world; and that thou knowest well enough, but that thy Kainish nature in thee, to use thy own expressions, hath made thee blind: it is not any Augmentacion unlesse it have somthing added to what I had be∣fore: now thou knowst I have nothing besides it, nor before it, from any of you all: All I have is a Gift from the State, and why may not I take a Gift from the State (call them the world or what thou wilt) as well as George Fox and James Nayler take a Gift from the world among you, I know not, but I would willingly be resolved in this.

A Reply to the Priests Answer, Thou sayst, thou takest no Tythes nor Augmentations of the world, but thou confessest thou takest a gift, who goest in the way or Balaam, for gifts and re∣wards, Iude 11. and art in his generation, so art one of these filthy dreamers, which Iude speaks of, therefore wo unto thee who shall perish in the gaynsaying of Core. 1 Pet. 3. 16. O thou false accuser, where canst accuse either George Fox or Iames Nailer of taking gifts of the world, as thou dost here, thou wouldst make them like thy self, and a colour for thy own filthiness, by accusing George Fox and Iames Nailer, because they bear testimony unto the truth, and testifie against thee, and thy gift, that thy deeds are evil, and wouldst fetch up the Apostles to maintain thee in thy filthiness, Acts 20. 33. he did eat no mans bread for nought, and so colour∣ed Beast wouldst colour thy self with the Apostles words, to main∣tain thy self in the generation of Balaam, which the Apostle cried wo against, and wo is thy portion, therefore own it, and there is thy resolve.

Priests second Answer to the fourth Query. Besides, God hath said, The Earth shall help the Woman, and did the Woman reject that help, because tis from the Earth? Answer me. He hath said, Kings

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shall be nursing fathers, and Queens nursing mothers to his people, shall Gods people then refuse to take their fatherly and motherly kindness? Answer me, Are we not to be thankfull, and take their refreshing as from Gods hands, for, he stirs up their hearts to it, whosoever they be that do it; Paul did not run away and refuse kindness when it was offered him by the Barbarians, Acts 28. 7, 10. neither did he refuse a lodging from them, which no question was of some value.

A Reply to the Priests Answ. Thou wouldst be answered whether the Earth helpeth the woman yea or no. Answ. Yea, the earth doth help the woman against all such Dragons as thou art; the Scri∣pture we do witness is fulfilled, and Kings and Queens which are nursing fathers and mothers, thou art an enemy to, Isai 49. 23. and knowest not, but as a Thief hast gotten the words of the Apostles, and so with them wouldst maintain thy gift: O thou blinde Pharisee! are these thy meanings that thou wilt give to the Scripture with thy carnal minde to maintain thee, and to hold up thy carnal gift, and these things which Christ forbids his to do so, who said, Freely you have received, freely give, but here thou art not, and it shews that thou hast not received it freely, therefore thou sellest that which thou callest thy gift, which the Apostles never did, 1 Cor. 9. 18. Paul was not hired, when he was refreshed with the necessaries of the Barbarians; O thou Enemy! why dost thou accuse Paul, and would make him like thy self? let him alone, for thou knowest him not, nor his Ministery, for he was a prisoner of the Lord, a traveller of the sea, when the Barbarians lodged him; what is that to thee, to maintain thee to bear rule by thy means, which Ie∣remy cryed against, Ier. 23. 14. & holdest up the horrible filthy thing that is committed in the Land, to justifie thee, to be a hierling, and to receive thy gift, and here thou hast openly shewed thy self to be an accuser of the Apostle, and wouldst make him like Balaam, like thy self: and would have the woman to help thee, and those are thy nursing fathers, Kings and Queens which hold up thy gift, which the Prophet cryed wo against, but it is that fools may utter forth their folly, and be taken in their own snare, Prov. 13. 16. here thou art answered, the Beast that hath held up the false Prophet, and the false Prophet shall both into the fier: And thou sayst, thou dost not take gifts of the world, but if any Prophet of the Lord come among you, son or daughter, you shew your selves to be of the world, you shew your selves to be strikers, and of the Devil, hal∣ling

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them out of the Synagogues, Matth. 10. 17. and to be no Saints▪ nor no Church of God, nor no Ministers of Christ; and here thou shewest thou takest of the world, and thy self to be a Lyar, for thou never readest of any of the Churches of God, if any of the world came in among them, that they halled them out and beat them, but it shews the effect of thy ministery and blasphemy, which sayth, ye are Iews, and are not, but are Synagogues of Sa∣tan, Rev. 2. 9. & 3. 9. we have found thee out and tryed thee.

Query 5. Whether the Plagues be not added to him, that adds to the Prophecy of the things written in this Book.

Priests Answer. 'Tis tru, the Spirit of God sayth so, Rev. 22. 18, 19. I do believe it, yet again, the expounding and opening of it, by the Light of the Spirit of God given in, comparing it with other Scriptures, is not that which brings the curse, for then the Apostle himself would have been under it▪ 1 Cor. 9. 9, 10. Rom. 4. 3, 6. Rom. 11. 3, 4, 5. For expounding it, wherein I have added or taken away is not yet discovered by any of you, and that is the waight of the business when thou didst write to me or any other; the Lord judg, and let all the Lords people judg, whether he be not more apt by far to add to the Prophecy of this Book, who by his doctrine begetsi slight esteem of the Prophecy of this Book, and perswades his hearers, that his words are as true as any Scripture, and he cannot err, and therefore all is to be believed that he speaks, and not to be questioned, though many things are contrary to this Prophecy; than they that are so much blamed by them, and reproached dayly.

A Reply to the Priests Answer. Thou sayst it is tru, that the Spi∣rit of God sayth, that the Plagues are added to him that adds to the prophece of this Book; here thou speakest a Lye; thou sayst it is tru, the Spirit of God sayth, He that adds or diminishes to the prophecy of the Book, which hadst thou not seen the Letter, then hadst known no spirit; and because the Letter sayth so, that is thy spirit, but as I finde thee adding, wresting and lying, I do see that the plagues are added to thee, by the same Spirit that gave forth the Scriptures, and of them thou knowest nothing, in that thou speak∣est a Lye, in that thou sayst thou dost know it, for thou knowest it not to be a truth, though the Letter speak it, as they swore the Lord lived▪ and swore falsly, Jer. 3. . if thou didst, thou durst not add nor diminish: thou sayst comparing one Scripture with ano∣ther is not that which brings the curse, for then the Apostle would

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have been under it, and so with thy corrupt minde dost accuse the Apostle falsly, and wouldst make him like thy self: and who speaks of the Scriptures fulfilling, which thou canst not witness, but makest a trade of them without thee, and wouldst have Points and Reasons of them, as thou wouldst have made a poynt of the Resurrection in thy former writing, and here the plague of God is due to thee, and here I charge thee again, and here the Fool is out of the truth, and the Rod is for the back of the Fool, Prov. 10. 13. Prov. 18. 28. and here is the Scripture fulfilled upon thee, and thou sayst it is not discovered by any of us, whether thou addest or di∣minishest, here thou hast shewed thy self to be a Lyar, thou hast been told both publickly and privately of it, and of thy deceit: and now seeing thou hast openly shewed thy self to be a Lyar, here openly do I make thee manifest as a Lyar, who wouldst justifie thy self in thy deceit, but thou harlot art made bare and discover∣ed, Nah. 3. 4, 5, 6. who hast sitten long under a colour, and here is the Scripture is fulfilled upon thee, and the Prophets words tru, we finde them fulfilled, Prayses, prayses, be to the Lord God of Heaven and Earth for ever, who gives his servants victory over the Beast, and the false Prophet, Rev. 15. 2, 3, 4. such as thou art, who have been ensnared by thee, therefore we see that Plagues are thy porcion; thou sayst that plagues are the waight that we give thee, it is so, 'tis thy due and porcion: thou sayst, the Lord judg, and let all the Lords people judg, 1 Cor. 6. 2. the Lord doth judg, and the Lord hath judged, and the Lords people doth judg all such as thou art; Him that thou dost accuse, as to add to the prophecy in the Book, he doth not, but witnesses it, thou having not the same witness canst not believe, and neither sees him nor the prophecy of the Book, thou seest the outside of the Letter with thy visible eye, as they did which saw the outside of the Vision of Daniel, Dan. 10. 7. But we that do believe him, do believe his Doctrine, not an outward testimony, but we have the witness in our selves which are one with him, and it doth witness that he hath the Spirit of truth, which cannot err, but we do know thy spirit by the same Spirit to be the spirit of error, and here thou wouldst not have the Spirit of God to be believed on; but here thou shewest thy self, that would question truth, for there is nothing in thee born up in thy understanding to receive truth withall; here thou shewest thy self to be an open Lyar, to say he acts contrary to the Prophecy who is one with it, and bears testimony to it, and the truth of it, against

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all such false accusers, 2 Tim. 3. 3. as thou art, for false accusers should arise, Tit. 2. 3. and here thou shewest thy self to be one, who accusest the Spirit of the living God, to be more false than those that have the spirit of Antichrist, who shall be consumed, and turned into the Lake, by the brightness of his coming, 2 Thess. 2. 8. the mouth of the Lord of Hosts hath spoken it.

Query 6. What Scripture have you that speaks of the word two Sacraments, which you tell the people of, and what Scripture have you to act such things.

Priests Answer. Certainly Satan hath blinded your mindes, you would never have put forth such a Question else, for the sub∣stancial Word the Lord Iesus, that we preach, of him the Scripture speaks every where; and for the Word, as the Declaracion of the minde of God, in and by Christ to poor sinners, the Scriptures are plentifull, take two or three, Iohn 5. 24. Iohn 8. 31. Iohn 12. 48. Iohn 15. 3. Iohn 17. 20. Ephes. 1. 13. Many more I might add, but that I have a check on my spirit, for gratifying your folly so far as I have done in this particular.

A Reply to the Priests Answer. In thy Answer thou sayst that Christ is the substancial Word, thou sayst so, because the Letter de∣clares he is the Word, but no other knowledg hast thou; but this is no answer to the word two Sacraments, for Christ we know who is the Word, but the word two Sacraments, which there is no Scripture for, which you tell people of, which is an addicion to the Scripture, and a thing that never was practised among the Saints, as thou be∣ing one with thy fellows that holdest up those things, the Query was, what Scripture you have to act such things? but Satan hath blinded your eys, 2 Cor. 4. 4. 1 Iohn . 11. which will not let you justifie those things which you act, which shews that you serve but an ill Master, that will not bear you out, neither can you own the Scriptures as they are, but you must give Exposicions upon them, and poynts, and your imaginacions and conceivings, who would have the Scripture cleared, but it is thy evil eye and minde that must be cleared, Matth. 6. 23. for the Scriptures are as they speak; thou sayst the Word you preach, (Alack for thee!) thou never knewst the Word, if thou didst thou wouldst not speak of clear∣ing up the Scriptures, as in thy other Queryes thou speakest of.

Query 7. What Scripture hast thou to stand praying in the Syna∣gogues, before Sermon and after, and where the Apostles did so, or ever took a Text to treat upon.

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Priests Answer. Observe that place, Matth. 6. 5. and thou shalt see that the thing Christ ayms at is not so much the posture nor the place, but their end of praying in the Synagogue, and that was to be seen of men, for he did not before nor after condemn the dutyes of fasting, praying, alms-deeds, but taught his Disciples how to do the same things, though to avoyd the hypocrisie of others in doing of them; and though another may be in the same place and po∣sture as they were▪ yet he may have other ends than they had, which thou canst not lightly judg of, as Christ did, for Christians in prayer with upright hearts are not bound up to any place, 1 Tim. 2. 8. And for praying in the publick meeting place, and among the Assembly it was so common and usual, that the place even had its name from it, it was called the House of Prayer, Matth. 21. 13. Isai 56. 7. and the hours of prayer were known by the Apostles, Acts 3. 1. And that it was so in the times of the Go∣spel may be seen by Pauls Doctrine about it in the 1 Cor. 11. from the 9. to the 18. verse. and in 1 Cor. 14. 13, 14, 15. For the times of prayer before Sermon and after, the Apostle gives a general Rule, 1 Cor. 14. 26. Let all things be done to edifying: now what way is more edifying and building than for the servants of God to way on the great Builder God in Christ, for help in the beginning of their work, and in the close after mercyes received, in speaking or hearing, to speak good of the Name of our God in blessing▪ and prayses; the thankfull heart shall not want goodness from God; but more fully the Apostle is clear in it; 1 Tim. . 1. That first of all prayers must be made, to begin with that, and that the thing is no without example, to conclude our speech with prayer; see that in Acts 20. 36. This was likewise his manner in the close of his Epi∣stles, as may be seen in seven of his Epistles, which I could never see in any of your Letters, you like not prayer so well it seems. And after that comes in thy frivolous and simple Question, this is all I see thy hand to, and therefore I call it thine. [Or ever took a Text to treat on.] I may well answer thee as Christ did the Saduces, Thou errest, not knowing the Scriptures; for look Acts 8. 35. whe∣ther Philip took not a Text to treat on to the Eunuch out of Isai 53▪ 7. Acts 10. 34. where Peter took a Text out of Deut. 10. 7. & Acts 13. 17. out of Exd. 3. 14. and above all we have the example of Christ in this, in his Sermon Luke 4. 17, 18. who took his Text out of Isai 61. 1. in the Synagogue, and he took a Book to reade it too, though I believe he had the Scripture more in his heart than

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any of your Teachers: thus having answered this Query, I have one word to say to thee, or the Inditer of it, before I go on,▪ and that is this, you have in this to me discovered a profane spirit, that findes fault with our often seeking and calling on God, and bles∣sing his Name; I am jealous that you are acted by the spirit of Sa∣tan amongst you,▪ you are so like those spoken of in the 3 of Mal. 7. 14, 15. Reade, and God give you to understand it well, for to me it appears, that the Spirit of God is quite of another nature, that says Pray continually, and without ceasing, in every thing give thanks, Ephes. 6. 18. 1 Thess. 5. 17, 18. it calls and encourages to the thing, Psal. 50. 15.

A Reply to the Priests Answer. A Scripture thou wrests to main∣tain the Answer of it, in Matth. 6. 5. Christ bids his Disciples pray not as the Pharises did, for they prayed standing in the Synagogues, but [when thou prayest, enter into thy Closet, and shut the door;] and here thou art a Lyar of Jesus Christ, and pervertst his words, who took his Disciples off from the customary praying of the Pha∣rises, and bade them not pray as they did, but thou goest about to maintain the Pharises Kingdom, which Iesus Christ cryed wo against, and wrests several Scriptures to hold it up withall, which is nothing to thy purpose: and another Scripture thou bringest, 1 Tim. 2. 8. [he would that men pray every where, lifting up holy hands without wrath and doubting:] thou nor the world canst not witness this, nor your hands to be holy to lift up to God, therefore they are abomination, and is to be denyed; the Apostle to Timo∣thy did not bid him go stand praying in the Synagogues, but thou wrests his words, to maintain thee in the chiefest place of the As∣sembly, Pharise like. Another Scripture thou bringest out of Acts 3. 1. Now Peter and John went up together into the Temple, at the hour of prayer, being the ninth hour. They were commanded to pray not as the Pharises did, who went to shew forth Christ Iesus the substance, of all those types and figures which they lived in, (all these Scri∣ptures will not maintain thee to hold up thy Pharises seat) they went to cry wo against them, and so do we now cry against thee, and thy beastical worship; and here I charge thee in the presence of the Lord to be an adder to the Scripture, Psal. 56. 5. and a wrester and a perverter of it, 2 Pe. 3. 16. For thou canst not finde any of these Scriptures thou bringest to hold thee up in thy Pharise like worship, but ar a Rod for thy own back, and openly thou shewest thy self to be Antichrist, and one that doth maintain the

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Kingdom of the Pharises: another Scripture thou bringest, 1 Cor. 14. 26. and here I charge thee again to be a wrester of the Scri∣pture, let all people look upon the Scripture, and see if it will main∣tain thee to have the chiefest place in▪ the Assemblies, and to stand praying before and after Sermon; here thou shewest thy self to be out of the commands of Christ, and art disobedient to him, and he that doth pervert his words, and wrests the Scripture; O thou sub∣til twining Serpent! how fain wouldst thou have a place in the earthly Letter, but there is no place nor corner for thee, but thou art found out and discovered, Obad. 6. For the Apostle which spoke to the Corinthians spoke to them, to whom the end of the world was come, which were Brethren, one had a Psalm, another a Do∣ctrine, another a Tongue, another a Revelation, and another an Interpretacion, that all things might be done to the edifying, 1 Cor. 14. 26. and they might speak one by one, and if any thing were revealed to him that stood by, the other should old his peace, that all things might be done to edifying, that God in all things might be glorified: but let all people consider how this Scripture doth con∣firm thee, to have the chiefest place in the Assemblyes, and to stand praying in the Synagogues before and after Sermon; let all people see if thou be not a wrester of the Scripture, and a perverter of the Apostles words, and the condicions that the Saints were in; thou openly shewest thy self not to be in, and thy Church not to be in the condicion as the Corinthians were in, for they were a ga∣thered people out of the world, but thou art without in the world, in the Church of the Pharises, who had the chiefest places in the Assemblyes, Matth. 23. 6. and so art an Enemy to Christ, here openly thou shewest it: thou speakest of wayting on the great Builder God in Christ; Dost thou speak of wayting upon God, who justifiest the seat of the Pharises, who were Enemies to Christ, and teachest people to do so? Acts 13. 10. O thou Enemy of Righteousness, and full of subtilty, a childe of the Devil! I cannot but deal plainly with thee: thou speakest of the great Builder, and wayting upon God in Christ, and art a maintainer of the Scribes and Pharises Kingdom, and art justifying them in their ways, and so doth teach Babylon which is confusion: thou speakest of con∣cluding thy speech with prayer, Psal. 28. 9. Thy prayers are abo∣minacion, and so are thy conclusions of them, so long as thou walkest in the steps of the Pharises, all thy blessings are cursed, and thy seed is corrupted, s Mal. 2. and as he saw them then, so we

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see thee now in the same generacion by the same spirit as he did, the Lord hath spoken it, and thou canst not hide thy self from him, Prayses be to the Lord God for ever, who hath discovered your abominacions: and friend, another Scripture thou bringest, [Acts 20. 36. He kneeled down and prayed with them all, and they all wept sore, and fell upon his neck, and kissed him, sorrowing that they should see his face no more:] O thou filthy Beast! What hast thou to do with this Scripture, that art an hierling and takest the worlds gift, and without God in the world? and this Scri∣pture, Dost thou take him as an example to pray after thy beastly worship, which Jesus Christ forbad to stand praying in the Syna∣gogues? and here again I charge thee before all the world to be a perverter of the Scripture to thy own destruction, to whom the Plagues of God are added, Revel. 22. 18. Thou speakest of the se∣ven Epistles of the Apostle, which thou hast nothing to do with∣all, but as a busie fellow makest a trade upon them; neither dost thou know the Letters that are given forth by us now, which are given forth by the same spirit, which cannot be divided; and thou art an accuser; for if thou didst see our Letters, thou mightst see the same as was in the Apostles, but in the Letters that are sent to thee, judgment is thy porcion, and that is given thee, shewing thy filthiness and abomination which thou livest in: the testimony of love to thy soul is plainess of speech: as for accusing us that we do not love Prayer so well, here thou art an open Blasphemer, but thy Prayers we do deny, for they are abominacion to the Lord, The prayers of the wicked are abominacion, Psalm 28. 9. No Prayers can we send to thee, but for thy destruction, thou man of sin, and Enemy of Christ; whereas thou dost accuse us of erring, not know∣ing the Scriptures, here thou hast taken Christs words not knowing him nor the Scripture, and wrests them all along, as thou hast dis∣covered it, so thou makest thy self a Lyar and a Thief, taking Christs words and accusing others with them who live in the life of them, for Christ spoke that Scripture as touching the Resur∣rection, which thou wouldst have turned into a Poynt, therefore to thee that Scripture belongs, that thou errest not knowing them, nor the power of God, Matth. 22. 29. as thou hast made it plainly appear: And thou bringest another Scripture as concerning Phi∣lip, thou sayst he took a Text to treat upon, and here I charge thee to add to his words, Philip did shew forth Christ which was the substance, he finding him riding in his Chariot; and thou Beast

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dost wrest this Scripture and pervert it, and so takest a place of Scripture and raisst Doctrines, Poynts and Uses, as thou callest them, and what thou conceivest and imaginest of it, and so sellest it for money, and so makest an hours talk of it, and art in one of these Text a moneth, or more, and speakest thine own inventions of it. Did they do so? O thou Blasphemer! Philip had not a set wages of him, but he was moved of the Lord to go to the Eu∣nuch, when he was going to Jerusalem to worship; so if any were moved of the Lord to come unto any of you, who are going to worship, and reading of the Scripture, and should shew you the substance of it, such as thou art, would fall a raging, for it takes away your Trade; we do witness that which Philip did, but we deny thee to be in Philips place▪ but onely Antichrist like hath gotten his form, O thou Enemy of all Righteousness! who hath wrested many Scriptures, and perverted them to thine own way, Acts 23. 6. to maintain thee in thy filthiness, and to make a cover for thee, but thou art discovered with all who are uncovered and stand naked before the Lord God Almighty: Prayses be to him for him. And above all, thou sayst thou hast Christ for an exam∣ple, for taking a Text, the words which Christ spoke, he said it was fulfilled, Luke 4. 17. Isai 61. 1. and if thou take his words for an example, Is thy Text which thou speakest fulfilled? then why dost thou▪ly so long in a Text, Christ said his was fulfilled that day, who said the Lord had anoynted▪ him to preach, Luke 4. 21. which thou art not, nor anst witness; and Christ did not take it and raise Doctrines, Reasons, Uses, Tryals and Motives, and have a set time, and a set wages, and preach out of it a moneth or more, as thou dost, but sayd it was fulfilled that day, which thou couldst never witness nor yet say: O thou impudent and brazen∣faced! how darest thou take Christ for an example to maintain thee in thy silthiness? Christs words we own to be tru, and to be fulfilled, prayed be the Lord for ever, which thou hast nothing to do with, but wrests them with thy corrupt carnal minde to thy own destruction, 2 Pet. 3. 16. but as the Prophet did speak of the Mer∣chants of Babylon, as thou art one of them in the mystery of Witchcraft, and so with thy craft dost deceive simple ones, and the Scriptures I know cannot err from that which gave it forth▪ and thy spirit I know to be the spirit of errour, which is the same that ever deceived the Nations, and we witness the Scripture in our hearts as Christ did. And as touching thy Belief, we deny it, for

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thou neither believest Christ nor us, for if thou wert of God tou would own us, as they sayd, who needed no man to teach them, but the anoynting, 1 John 2. 27. but that thou art without, and in the world, an Antithrist, and there I leave thee. Whereas thou dost accuse us of a profane spirit, it is the profane minde and spirit in thee which judgest the spirit of truth so, because it doth shew that which the profane nature cannot bear: and whereas thou dost accuse, that we finde fault with your often calling and seeking to God, that is false, for we would have all to call upon the Lord, while he is near, and to seek him while he may be found, Isai 55. 6. and that is the intent of all our writing and printing, or coming to your Steeple-houses, or coming abroad for your souls good, which you shall eternally witness, though▪ your corrupt filthy mindes do reject it; but thou Hypocrite and Pharise, and Enemy of all Righteousness! all thy prayers we utterly deny, for they are abominacion to the Lord, and all thy blessings are cursed, as in Mal. 2. Your praying in the Synagogues as the Pharises did, Christ did deny, and we also do deny the same, and so will every one where Christ is risen deny thee, and such as thou art, for he is but one, the same to day, yesterday, and for ever, whom thou art an Enemy to, and in the Generacion of them that ever were so: Friend, thou sayst, thou art jealous that we are acted by a spirit of Satan, and dost accuse us to be like those spoken of in Mal. 3. these are thy companions eternally; I witness it, and there thou art present now among them in the same nature, and one that walks out of the commands of God, as I have proved before, and out of the commands of Christ, following thine imaginacions, and therefore are we all witnesses against thee, that thou art in the Sorcery▪ in the Witchcraft, and in the Adultery, and in the corrupt seed, whose blessings are cursed, the same light sees it now, and sees thee in the same Generation: And whereas thou dost accuse us concerning Prayer, thou gatherest many Scriptures in thine imaginacions; the Saints prayed continually, and from them Scriptures thou imitatest a Form, and accusest us who live in the praying continually; and to thee it cannot ap∣pear in thy carnal form, neither dost thou know our spirit, for it terrifies thee, nor the spirit of the Apostle, and we do witness the condicion that the Apostle speaks of praying continually, and in every thing giving thanks, 1 Thess. 5. 17. 1 Tim. 2. 8. But this thou canst not witness to be fulfilled, to that which should exercise thy

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conscience do I speak, which shall eternally witness we, for thou art dead, and the dead cannot prayse God, and that which should prayse God in thee is in the Grave, and none in the Grave can prayse him, Isai 38. 18. and thy carnal minde in thee is limiting God in thy carnal form and custom, and with a pretence of thy Prayers Pharise like, which is but mocking God, and hatefull, and abominacion to him, and all who are of him, thy Prayers and spi∣rit will be denyed by them; and thou accuser art without, in the world among the false accusers, 2 Tim. 3. 3. and thou must deny all thy prayers, and all thy customs, and all thy worship, and all thy imitated Churches▪ as thou callest them, and all thy praysings, and all the worlds ways before ever thou knowest God or us.

Qu. 8. Shew me by the Scriptures where the Apostles went into the world, and gave the world David's Psalms to sing in Meeter? these things that ye practis, answer them by the Scripture, or the Apostles practise, without consequence and imaginacions.

Priests Answer. That the Apostles went into the world, that is, up and down in several parts of it, is clear by all their Epistles. That the Apostles Commission from Iesus Christ in their going forth to preach to all Nations, was this, [Teaching them to observe all whatsoever I have commanded you] is as clear, Matth. 28. 20. That the Apostles were men that were under the same commands that were generally commanded of all men, cannot be denyed, and if so, then they were to teach this very Lesson of singing Psalms to the world where they went, see Psal. 100. 1. & 96. 1. & 117. 1. & 61. 32. & 148. 11, 12, 13. & 145. 21. & 150. 6. Now be∣cause you generally keep such work about this particular, but fur∣ther least you should evade this, the New Testament is not altoge∣ther silent in this case, for we reade of Christ, that he sung a Hymn with his Disciples after Supper, according to the manner of the Iews at their Feasts, which say some, was a Part of the 116 Psalm, Paul and Silas sung in Prison, and besides this Paul observed the command of God in this particular, for he taught the Churches this very thing, Ephes. 5. 19, 20. ol. 3. 16. yea and the Apostle Iames declares the very extent of the command, Iames 5. 13. holding it forth as a general duty without exception, he sayth, Is any merry, let him sing Psalms. For singing them in Meeter, I would ask thee such a Question, whether a truth in Meeter holding forth the goodness, greatness, majesty, or mercy of God, do not remain a

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truth, instructing, comforting, edifying, as well as the same in Prose. If so, the Devil hath befooled you exceedingly, to make you so busie without cause as you are in this thing, and while you pretend for truth of one hand, you are beating down truth on the other hand publickly and visibly; but besides this, the Psalms were penned by the Spirit of God, so no question they were di∣rected to be sung in the Temple, to that end David sent the Psalms to the chief Musician or Master of the Musick, to put them in Meeter for singing, and gave them grave Tunes to sing them forth in, for the Hebrew Psalms were sung in Meeter in the Temple, and in Tunes invented, and what makes it worse now than it was here∣tofore? God hath required the singing of Psalms even of English men, as they are a part of the world, then to that end Scripture-Psalms which were Themes and Verses are translated into English Psalms, which Themes and Verses in like sort that we might sing them: besides all this I would have thee to know, that we are not to live onely by examples, but by precepts, also now I have disco∣vered general precepts for the practise of this; and as we are to do it, so we are to do it spiritually, orderly, and most to edificaci∣on, and so the general Rule is 1 Cor. 14. 26, 40. the Apostle in the 26 verse specifies this particular of a Psalm, now what can be more for edificacion, and decency, and order, than to follow that order that had been used so long before, with the approbacion of God himself; Hezekiah set the house of God in order, and this was one thing he did, he put the singing of Davids Psalms in or∣der, as in the 2 Chron. 29. 30. and in chapter 7. 30. 26. God blames him not for it, but saith he, There is none like him from the days of Solomon, and to this day the order is not contradicted by God, that I know, if thou knowest more discover it. Last of all ex∣ception is taken, because they are given forth to the world; any Assembly of Christians coming together to worship God are not bound up so close, but a company of the world may come in amongst them, and joyn with them in those things which are re∣quired of all men, as hearing the Word, praying, or singing of Psalms; and Christians are not to refrain because they are there, for this see that place 1 Cor. 14. 23, 24. Now whatsoever thou judgest, I dare not, but judg that God hath some of his people in our meetings, that are Christians indeed, and though there may be more of the world, I know not that this should be a ground to forbear that which all in the Congregation are required to do▪ viz▪ to speak good of God.

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A Reply to the Priests Answer. Whereas thou goest about to maintain the singing of Davids Psalms in a Meeter, and that the Apostles did so, and went into the world to give to the world Da∣vids Psalms to sing in a Meeter, which David sayth, The dead cannot prayse the Lord; here I charge thee in the presence of the Almigh∣ty God to be a perverter of Scriptures and of the Apostles words, and Davids words; and dost bring in a consequence to bring them into the same carnal invencion that thou art in, and wouldst make them like thy self: and thou bringest a Scripture Matth. 28. 20. that the Apostles went into the world to give to the world Da∣vids Psalms to sing in a Meeter; there is not a word in the Scrip∣ture that Christ sent his Apostles into the world to give them Da∣vids Psalms to sing in Meeter, here thou accusest Christ, and wouldst make him like thy self, and wouldst make the Apostles like thy self; here again I charge thee to be a wrester and a perverter of the Scriptures: thou speakest of Paul and Silas singing, and them thou dost bring to confirm thy going into the world to give to the world Davids Psalms in a Meeter; here thou hast shewed forth thy blindness, sottishness, and ignorance; Paul and Silas when they sung prayses to God they were in Prison, which condi∣cion thou never knewest▪ and another Scripture thou bring∣est concerning Christ and his Disciples, when they did sing an Hymn, which thou art ignorant of, but art in the Generacion of the Pharises and Priests that ought to put him to death, who hath gotten the form of his words, therefore as Amos sayth, The songs of the Temple shall be turned into houling, Amos 8. thy songs and all your songs: another Scripture thou bringest in the Ephesians and Colossians, to maintain thy beastly end, of going into the world, who are ignorant, and live in darkness, and giving them Davids Psalms in a Meeter contrary to all the Scripture, and the practise of all the Saints, and wouldst compare the Church who are ga∣thered out of the world, the Saints, to be like the world, and thy beastly worship, who sung with the spirit, and with understand∣ing, and with grace, making melody to the Lord in their hearts, 1 Cor. 14. 15. Heb. 2. 12. but the world turns the grace of God into wantonness; and how darest thou compare them with those that lives and dwels in the grace of God, and sings with grace and with the spirit; but here thou hast shewed forth thy ignorance and blindness, and it is that fools may utter forth their folly, and that blinde Guides might appear openly; and here I charge thee again

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to wrest the Scriptures: and David thou bringest for the justify∣ing of thy going into the world, and giving them his Psalms to sing in Meeter, who sayd, Sing unto the Lord a new Song, and none can sing a new song, but who are redemed from the earth, Rev. 14. 3. and who are not of the world; and here thou art an adder, and the Plagues are added to thee, therefore all thy consequence and Songs we utterly deny, and thy vain imitacions: thou wouldst fain get a colour out of the Apostles words to maintain thee in thy filthiness, but thy shelter is taken away, and thy coverings, and thou art discovered to be without, and not in the practise of the Saints: Friend, the singing with the spirit as they did we own, that singing in grace we own, and making melody to the Lord in the heart we own, and the singing of a New Song we own, and witness, as the Saints did, but thy singing we do deny, and witness against it, Glory, glory to the Highest! Another Scripture thou bringest to maintain the singing of Davids Psalms in Meeter, that the Apostle gave them to the ignorant world, which is Iames 5. 13. where there is not a word in the Scriptures for it, but he sayd. If any be merry, let him sing Psalms, which he spoke to the Saints, scat∣tered abroad, and not to the world; and there thou art a Lyar of him, and a false accuser of him, the Apostles sayd, they would sing with understanding, and here thou shewest that thou hast no un∣derstanding, nor no grace that thou livest in, its not to be given to people that turn the grace of God into wantonness, and have no un∣derstanding in things that be eternal, nor of the Saints condicions, that were gathered out of the world, here thou hast made thy self voyd of the knowledg of God, and of Christ, and of the Apostles, and all the Saints; thy Meeter we do deny, and they who turned them into Meeter are like thy self, therefore do we witness the beating down of all thy strong holds, and singing in Meeter; thou hast got another mans condicion into Meeter, and all people I take to record, if thou shouldst see David roaring, qua∣king, and trembling, and water his Bed with his tears; Psal. 32. 3. & . 11. & . . & 42. 3. and have this turned into a Meeter, and get up into a Pulpit among ignorant people, of beastical mindes, and then say, Let us sing to the prayse and glory of God: Let all people judg what thou justifiest; and this is thy imitated singing, which is altogether to his dishonor, and this is thy Psalm: but who are moved to sing with understanding, and making me∣lody to the Lord in their hearts, we own; if it be in Meeter we own

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it. O thou blinde Hypocrite! was David of the world when he did sing prayses? and did David send his Psalms to the chief Musician to havo them put in Meeter, and so to give them to the world? thou neither knowest the Example, nor the Precept, which thou wouldst have us to know, nor David; and all thy Precepts we do deny, and that minde in thee which doth discover them, as thou sayst, which is thy own practise, and not the pra∣ctise of the Saints, for there is nothing proceeds out of thee, but what comes out of thy imaginacions and invencions; but the Precept which the Scripture speaks of we know and witness, which thou art ignorant of, as thou makest it to appear; and all those Psalms which you have turned into an English Meeter we deny, and such as thou art, who keep people in blinde forms and cu∣stoms; but the singing prayses to God as David did we own, and witness, Psal. 104. 33. & 144. 9. which thou art without, and igno∣rant of, and an Enemy to, and to them who witness the same con∣dicion as he was in: And friend, another Scripture thou bringest 1 Cor. 14. 26, 40. to maintain thee, that the Apostle went into the world and gave them Davids Psalms in a Meeter to sing; and here I charge thee in the presence of the Lord to wrest the Scri∣pture, and to add to the Scripture, for the Apostle spoke this not to the world, but he spoke to the Brethren; if thou wert not blinde thou mightst see it, the very Letter declares it: O thou slanderous Beast! why dost thou slander the Church of God, and would make them like the rude world, strikers & fighters? Ps. 33. 2. & 89. 5. but it is that thou mightst shew forth thy folly, blindness, sortishness, and ignorance; thou Hypocrite, if thou wouldst sing now as David did then, where is thy Harp, Lute, and thy loud Symball? here thou shewest thy self that thou art neither in Davids condicion, nor the Apostles, nor in the Saints condicion, but art without, following thy own filthy imaginacions, living in the cursed nature, which holds up all these abominacions, and the abominable invencions of men, which God forbids: Thou sayst, God hath required the singing of these Psalms of English men, in this thou art a Lyar; O thou Lyar! God never commanded these Psalms to be sung of English men which you have turned into a Meeter, but they are your own invencions, and when you reade them Hats you keep on, and when you sing them Hats you put off, and here you worship the works of your own hands: thou sayst, you ought to do it spiritually, which is thy own invencion and

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applicacion, and thee and thy application we do deny, and there is nothing of the spirit born up in thy understanding to guide thee; now here thou shewest to be in the same nature that the world is in, they say they ought to do such things, and doth not; here thou shewest thy self to be one of them without, and not in the same minde the Apostle was in, who sayd, We will sing with the spirit, and we will sing With understanding, and with grace; but we do deny all thy imitacions: And riend, another Scripture thou bringest to hold up giving to the world Davids Psalms to sing in Meeter, 2 Chron. 29. 30. and here I charge thee in this Scripture to be a Lyar in the presence of the Lord God Almighty, and an adder to the Scriptures, for they sang prayses to the Lord who were Bre∣thren, that came to the house of the Lord, as the Scripture sayth, and Hezekiah did not give them Davids Psalms to sing in Meeter, which were Enemies to God, but these did sing when the House was cleansed; and this is nothing to thee to hold up thine abomi∣nacions, and to give the world Davids Psalms in Meeter, but open∣ly to all people hast thou shewed thy self; thou sayst God blamed him not, there was none like him; therefore thou mayst see thy self, he was not of the world, and here thou shewest thou dost not know the old Covenant, and hastraced thy self out of them both, and hast made thy self stark blinde: thou sayst, to this day the order is not contradicted by God, Did not Steven witness and say, God doth not dwell in Temples made with hands, Acts 7. 48. and for witnessing forth the substance was stoned to death; and the Apo∣stle Paul witnessed against all the Figures, Types, and Shadows, and all their Customs, and outside Observances, and all their offer∣ing, and contradicted that which God had commanded, when the everlasting Offering was come, and against the outward Temple; but thou art blinde and canst not see it, Pharise like, but thy minde is seen to be contradictory, who wouldst contradict the truth, and doth not see the end of God, in fulfilling his Types and Figures, and when they are fulfilled, he doth contradict them, and there∣fore do we contradict thee, which actest these things God never commanded; that which God had commanded was contradicted, as Circumcision, and the outward Temple, and the Sabboth, and all the Priests were denyed, with them who had received Iesus Christ; and here thou hast shewed thy self to be a blinde Pharise, which knowest not the precepts nor commands of God, but fol∣lowest thy own imaginacions and thy own invencions, which I

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have charged thee withall formerly: and here I charge thee to be a blinde Guide, Matth. 23. 16. and therefore came the Apostle to contradict all the Jews, who held up the Figures after the sub∣stance was come, but thou art blinde as the Pharises were, and worse, for when the Apostles had received the substance they con∣tradicted the Pharises, which held up the Types and Shadows, which God had commanded, and killed them that did witness the substance come; but thou natural brute Beast, who knowest no∣thing of God nor his truth, must be consumed by unquenchable si∣er: thou speakest of an Assembly of Christians coming together to worship God, but a company of the world may come and thou joynest with them, here thou shewest plainly that thy worship is no tru worship of God, for they that worship him must worship him in spirit and truth, Iohn 4. 23, 24. for such are they which he seeks to worship him, but not in the Steeple-house; the mighty day of the Lord is coming, and God that made the world doth not dwell in Temples made with hands, therefore come down thou painted Beast which deceivest the people, God will overturn thee and thy worship, and all such as thou art; and them who are of God God is sending them forth to give you the Cup double that ye have given to them: thou sayst, an Assembly of Christians com∣ing together to worship God are not bound up so close but a com∣pany of the world may come in and joyn with them; here thou shewest that thy Assembly are all of one spirit, and here thou shewest plainly that thy spirit and their spirit is the spirit of the world, and not the spirit that was in the Apostles and Saints, which sayd, What concord hath Christ with Belial, and what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? 2 Cor▪ 6. 14. and here thou hast raced thy self out of the tru worship of God; and I know thy spirit is not bound up, but it is at liberty in the world, in the broad way, and therefore with them it can joyn, and so here thou shew∣est thy self to be of a contrary spirit to them that preached the Word; the Ministers of the Word are not Ministers of the Let∣ter, wherein it doth appear that thou art a Minister of the Letter, & a wrester of it; those who are the Ministers of the Word speak forth freely, and testifie against such hierlings as thou art, (who art bound up in thy form and set place) and against all thy customary praying and singing, for the preaching of the Word is to declare freely to all, it is not bound up, but such as thou wouldst limit it, who doth keep poor simple people in bondage under thee:

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I do believe God hath a people which is in captivity under thy dark imitated Forms, and such as thine, and who are misled by such as thou art, for we were all under such blinde Guides as thou art, until God of his infinite love did shew us his way, and his light, and your ways, therefore in the presence of the Lord God do we testifie against all such practises as thine, and for the simple ones sakes, (who are under such blinde Guides as thou art) do we let forth our selves, that they may see how such as thou bewitchest them, and keepest them from worshipping the living God, by thy imaginacions, Gal. 3. 1. Thou bringest a place 1 Cor. 14. 23, 24. to maintain singing of Davids Psalms in a Meeter, but in that Scri∣pture there is no such thing in it: here again thou openly shewest thy self to be a perverter of the Scriptures, and a wrester of it, what communion hath the believer with the unbeliever? here thou shewest thy self to be one of Babylon, full of confusion, and con∣fused in thy words, contrary to the Scripture, and a wrester of it, for the world knows not God by all its wisdom: Thou sayst, that your Congregacion is required to speak good of God; O you Ge∣neracion of Vipers! how can you being evil speak good things? Mat. 3. 7. Here thou crossest Christs words, thou wouldst have the Ge∣neracion of Vipers to speak good things, An evil tree cannot bring forth good fruit, how can you speak good of God, that speak nor good of his people? the Pharises when they met together, did they speak good of God, when they sayd Christ was a Devil, and gathered together with the chief Priests, and sought to put him to death? Iohn 11. 53. and in this generacion thou art taking counsel against Christ, and against his anoynted, in∣censing the rude multitude against them, and is this speaking good of God?

Query 9. Whether a man shall overcome the body of sin, while he •••• on the earth, yea or no?

Priests Answer. There are divers and several victories over sin, as first a victory over the dominion, and reigning power of sin, Rom. 6. 14. this is not given by the power of man, but by the po∣wer of grace: there is a victory over the condemning presence of sin, sin cannot so hurt any elect Vessel, as to throw him into ell, and eternal wrath and condemnaion, Rom. 8. 1. There is a victory over the being of sin in the flesh, and whatsoever curse thou sayest on me for the same, I must profess that I am of the minde, that vi∣ctory s not fully enjoyed while we are on the earth, for then and

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not before, when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, Death is swallowed up in victory, 1 Cor. 15. 54. and the Apostle cals the body of sin the body of death, Rom. 7. 24.

A Reply to the Priests Answer. Friend, thou bringest so many Scriptures, which is to the throwing down of thy own self, as Rom. 6 14. and thou desirest to be satisfied to the contrary to thy belief, for thou believest that man shall not be made free from sin as long as he is here, and here I will shew thee that thou hast a lying spirit, for in Rom. 6. they sayd, they were made free from sin, for while they were servants of sin, they were made free from righteousness, and here thou shewest a contrary spirit to that which was in the Apostle; and thou desirest to be fully satisfied in those Scriptures, in Rom. 7. 18. 25. Paul spoke his condicion that he was in to the Saints, and what he had passed through, which yet thou art alive in the flesh, and not come to know the Law of God▪ therefore thy carnal minde rules and reigns in thee, and so thou art making a distinction in the Apostles words, and wresting of them, who wit∣nessed that there was no condemnacion to him that was in Christ Ie∣sus, and witnessed the condicion under the Law, and without the Law, and was made free from the Law through the Law, which thou knowest not, so thou being a dead man canst not hear; thou speakest of a Victory and reigning power of sin, and yet in the conclusion of thy words thou speakest to the contrary again, and that thou art of that minde, that Victory is not fully enjoyed while we are on the earth, and here thou speakest contrary to the Scriptures, and there is a confusion in thy words; for first thou sayst there is a Victory and Dominion ver the reigning power of sin, and then again thou denyest it, and here thou shewest Baby∣lon, for the Apostle sayd, We are more than conq••••rours through him that loved us, and there is no condemnacion to them who are in Christ Iesus: Another Scripture thou wouldst be satisfied in, 1 Cor. 15. 54. the Apostle did speak what he saw in this Chapter which thou hast taken a word or two of, and we witness and see the same, yet death reigns in thee, and corruption reigns in thee, and the natural minde which doth despise the glory of God, therefore is this Scrip∣ture hid from thine eys, but it is as it speaks, we witness it to be fulfilled; and the Apostle was in the condicion that he spoke of, for he witnessed the Victory, and sayd, Thanks be to God, who hath given us the Victory through our Lord Iesus Christ, 1 Cor. 15. 55, 56. and sayd, O death! where is thy sting? O grave! where is thy victo∣ry?

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Rom. 5. 9. and thou hast raced out thy self from the Apostles and from the Saints condicions, and shewest that death yet hath dominion over thee, and that sin hath dominion over thee, and that the mortal hath dominion over the, and that corrupcions have do∣minion over thee, and that that thou art in the grave, and that Vi∣ctory cannot be witnessed, and art an enemy to it, and hast not so much as a belief in thee of overcoming of sin; and here thou hast shewed thy hypocrites hope, as thou sayst, and so keepest poor people in death, in corruption, and in the mortal and carnal minde, and in the grave, and in unbelief, as thou art in thy self, and shewest that thou art damned openly, he that believeth not is condemned already, he that believeth is born of God, and doth not commit sin, but is passed from death to life.

Query 10. Whether any natural man can preach the Gospel, yea or no?

Priests Answer. I do believe they may preach the historical part of the Gospel, I believe Iudas did preach and was not behinde in his gift, to outward vie of the eleven Apostles, for the Apostles had no ground to have any ill conceits of him, for had they, they would soon have reflected on him, when Christ sayd, One of you shall betray me, but they questioned themselves and not him, Matth. 26. 21, 22. And God gives great gifts many times to wicked men, Rom 2. 18, 19, 20. 2 Cor. 11. 13, 14, 15. Ministers of Satan may be transformed into Ministers of righteousness, Gal. . 8. They cannot preach the mystery of the Gospel nor Christ, from their own experience or enjoyment, for this they know not, 'tis folly to them, 1 Cor. 2. 14.

A Reply to the Priests Answer. Here thou art pleading for the natural man, for Iudas and the false Apostles, and it is true, in that generacion thou art among them, and therefore thou must needs love thy own, and stand up for them, for no other generacion thou knowest, I am a witness against thee, and I know thee, and have tryed thy spirit, to be one of these false Teachers, which wouldst transform thy self into an Angel of light, and which dost intrude into these things thou never knewst, and so thou puffest up thy fleshly minde, there thou art, I witness thee there eternally by the Eternal spirit: Thou sayst, Ministers of Satan may be trans∣formed into Ministers of righteousness, 2 Cor. 11. 15. here thou wouldst make Satan and righteousness one, and shewest forth thy error, not knowing the words as the Apostle speaks; and if they

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cannot preach the mystery of the Gospel, how can they be transformed into righteousness? for the Ministers of Satan transform themselves as the Ministers of righteousness, but he doth not say, he transforms into it▪ here thou shewest thy self to be a Lyar, and thy self to be one of those who are no Ministers of the Gospel, getting the form, but denying the power, 2 Tim. 3. 5. which ever was to be turned away from, whose end is destruction according to their works, and so thou shewest all along that thou hast but onely the form of the Apostles words, for thou pleadest for them who are without, and against those who are within, who are in the power and life of the truth, thou pleadest against the truth and the life which the Apostles were in, and the life of the Apostles, for the Apostles did discern the false Apostles, and those who did transform themselves, so with the same spirit we discern thee to be in the same generation among them, and there thou must own thy porcion, and own the Scriptures to be tru, and thy porcion in it, which it speaks of to the false Prophets and false Apostles: Another Scripture thou bringest 1 Cor. . 14. thou bringest a Scripture which sayth, The natural man receiveth not the things that be of the Spirit of God, they are foolishness to him, that is thy own condiion, own that Scripture for a truth to thy self, for the preaching of Christ, and the Cross is foolishness to thee, as it was to them that held up the Iewish Synagogues which yet thou hold∣est up; another in imitation from the carnal Letter, being carnal, and blinde, and ignorant of the mystery and of Christ, and of the Gospel; but the mystery, and Christ, and the Gospel we wit∣ness and own, but we have not re••••ived it of man, neither were we taught it of man, but by the revelacion of Iesus Christ, Gal. 1. 12. and we do witness forth the substance as the Apostle did, and there∣fore we do deny all such as thou art, who art not so much as a Mi∣nister of the Letter, and hast not yet got the form of it to speak it tru as the form is, but thou hast shewed forth thy ignorance and foolishness of the form of the Letter.

Query 11. Whether the Tree be not known by its fruits, yea or no?

Priests Answer. No question but it is, Christ himself says so, but I pray thee tell me, did ever a good Tree bring forth Despea∣ion for its fruit, it was Cain that despaired, Achitophel and Iudas that went and hanged themselves: Is that a good Tree that brings forth wrath, strife, sedicion, heresie, cursings, and such like? Is

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that a good Tree that brings forth fruits of disobedience, and slighting of those whom God hath commanded us to honour? Is that a good Tree that hath for his fruits a casting by of the Ordi∣nances of God, and a slighting of, and reviling and reproaching the servants of God? Is that a good Tree that hath apparant fruit on it, of justifying themselves, and condemning all that are not of their minde, how precious soever in the eys of God? Is that a good Tree whose fruit is brought forth in Satans dress, very like him, for if they once believe your opinions, the thing they look for is to tremble, Iames 2. 19.

A Reply to the Priests Answer. Here thou desirest to know whe∣ther a good Tree brings forth desperation, as Iudas, here thou ac∣cusest Christ, for Iudas denyed Christ when he did despair, and Christ found him out, so he doth thee, and all who deny the good Tree, Christ findes out now; and all who do despair, deny the good ree as thou dost, who accusest Christ now, as they did then, and Cain when he slew his brother Abel, then he despaired, when he slew the righteous seed, Gen. 4. 5. and so are all you now in the generacion of Cain, and God doth no more accept your Sacrifice, than he did Cains, who live in envy, and you are in the same de∣speracion who slay the righteous, as dayly may appear; and in answer to this Query, in that evil Tree thou art, and bringst forth wrath and strife, for in this very Answer thou hast shewed it, and shewed forth Cain, and malice, and false accusacions, and igno∣rance: and in thy former Query thou canst not witness the over∣coming of sin, and is not sin of the Devil? and is not sin the cause of despair? and is this the good Tree? and Christ sayth, Be ye perfect as your heavenly Father is perfect, Matth. 5. 48. and here thou shewest openly, that thou art that evil Tree, which can∣not bring forth good fruit, for he sayth, An evil Tree cannot bring forth good fruit, nor a good Tree bring forth evil fruit; and this I witness fulfilled; therefore I see thee, and discover thee, to be that fruitless Tree, which art cursed, and for the fier: and again, thou pleadest for the honor of man, Jesus Christ sayth, How can ye be∣lieve that receive honor one of another, John 5. 44. And thou shewest thy self to be that evil Tree, that casteth the Ordinances of Christ behinde thy back, and shewest thy self to be the Reviler, and the Reproacher of the servants of God; for doth not Christ say, They are called of men Master, and have the chiefest places in the Assemblies▪ Matth. 3. and art not thou there? and he bids his Ministers not

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to be as they were, and here thou shewest thy self to disobey the commands of Christ, and to be the evil Tree: because we deal plainly with thee, this thou callest reviling and reproaching; we speak the words that Christ himself spoke, which testifie against thee, who livest in thy filthiness, and with all thy might and main, wouldst hold it up against Christ and his servants, and wouldst pervert his words, but the Lamb hath got the victory; prayses, prayses, be to the Lord God Almighty for ever, Rev. 17. 14. Thou askest if this be the good Tree that justifies it self, thou hypocrite! can a good Tree condemn it self? here thou wouldst not own it to be a righteous Tree to bring forth good fruit, wouldst thou make a good Tree to accuse it self? here thou blasphemest and accusest Christ, and he that doth witness this good Tree doth witness against all who are not of the same minde, for all who are this good Tree are of one minde, and of one soul, and of one heart; and here thou hast showd forth thy ignorance, and thou art a false accuser, that a good Tree can condemn that which is precious in the eys of God, here thou art an accuser and an enemy of righte∣ousness, and knowest not what thou speakest, did ever Christ con∣demn that which was precious in the eys of God, but nourished and cherished it? but such a false hypocrite as thou art he con∣demns, and cryes wo against thee, who art got up into the chiefest place of the Assemblyes, standst praying in the Synagogues de∣vouring widows houses, and painting thy self with other mens words, and so Serpent lke, and here thou art a Serpent, and the evil Tree, blaspheming against Christ which is the good Tree, here thou shewest thy self to stand in the same place which Christ cryed wo against, which called him a Devil, as thou dost now, where he is made manifest; thou believest there is a God, and here thou shewest thou art not come to the saith of Devils, for the Devils be∣lieve and tremble, Iames 2. 19. and they condemn thee and thy faith; and the power of God which makes to tremble thou knowest not, as the Apostle when he came among the Corinthians, he was with them in much trembling, 1 Cor. 2. 3. and thou mightst say the Apo∣stle was in the Devils dress, when he trembled, for the same poer of God that made him to tremble, the same power of God we witness now which makes us to tremble; and here thou hast openly shew∣ed thy self that thou dost not know the Scriptures, but makest thy self manifest to be in the Devils dress, and a blasphemer. And as touching opinions they are thy own, for opinions we do deny;

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and here thou hast shewed that the power of God thou knowest not, nor never heardst his voyce, whose voyce shakes the earth▪ Psalm 46. 6. and shewest that thy wisdom is of the earth and earthly, and all thy Gospel notions to be earthly, and all thy knowledg to be earthly, and all thy manifestacions and gifts (as thou calst them) to be earthly, for thou denyest the power of God which shakes the earth, Psal. 2. 18. and so hast here shewed thy self to be in the natural state, and in the first birth, and as a fool hast uttered forth thy folly, shewing thy minde to be full of iniquity, and being the Tree which beareth no fruit, which is cursed, Hebr. 6. 8.

Query 12. Whether a man shall grow up to that condicion under your Ministry that he shall need none to teach him but the Lord, yea or no?

Priests Answer. Truly I do believe that God hath given so far many of his servants to grow up amongst us, as they see God alone the onely Teacher of himself in all that is discovered by his ser∣vants, they know him to be the worker of all their works in them, that Christ is all, and in all, the Alpha and Omega, the teacher of his Fathers minde to us; and yet notwithstanding I believe few are grown up to that desperate folly and madness, as when God hath afforded means of discovering his will & mind, to cast them all by, and ty God up to work immediatly without means, to humor their fancy, this is to tempt him, Mat. 4. 6, 7. to confine him, which God cannot like, he will not take it long from proud flesh: I am per∣swaded the Scripture you bring in, Isai 2. ult. Cease from man, will not serve your turn, for many Prophets, and Apostles, and men of God, taught after that, even by the command of God and Christ; besides you cry, Cease from man, but you practise quite contrary, witness the running of many of you many miles to hear George Fox; and you use writings, and printings, which are outward means of teaching.

A Reply to the Priests Answer. Here thou hast shewed forth presumption and lying, to say that many are grown up under your teaching to see God alone the onely Teacher, and that Christ is all in all, the Alpha and Omega, and thou thy self not to know the first Principle, nor they whom thou teachest, Heb. 5. 12. for if it were so, that they knew the second Covenant, and the Law of God written in their hearts, they would all deny thee, for it teach∣eth them to know God, and need not to say, Know the Lord, and

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needed not any man to teach them, who witnessed the Anoynting, and need not any of thy carnal means, as thou talkest of, for the means that God doth teach his people, is by his Spirit, Gal. 3. 5. for they that did draw them from the spirit within them, bewitch∣ed them, and so dost thou, and they that drew them from the An∣oynting within them, bewitched them, and so dost thou, which tellest people of a carnal means; so that Scripture which thou bringest Matth. 4. 6, 7. it is for thy self, for thou temptest Christ, and wouldst have him to bow down to thy false worship, to thy carnal means, as the Devil did Christ, then own it and witness it, for it is thy condicion, herein thou hast shewed thy self to be a false Pro∣phet, sowing pillows under the peoples arm-holes, and flattering and keeping them in carnal security, and tellest them that Christ is their Teacher, when thou who art blinde and carnal art set up for a Teacher, who makest a Trade with the Scriptures, and nei∣ther knowest Christ nor the Spirit, nor the teaching of Christ, (as thou speakest of) and so keepest all people in blindness and ignorance from waiting upon Christ: and friend, whereas thou dost accuse us of tying God up to work immediately, herein thou shewest that all that thou hast is but fancy, and lying in thy carnal state, who tempts God, and draws all others to tempt him, and shewest thy self void of all them that spoke forth the Scriptures; for all Scriptures being given forth by the inspiracion of the Spi∣rit, and holy men spoke as they were moved by the Holy Ghost, was not all this immediate and eternal; and here thou hast openly shewed thy self to be carnal, and not knowing them that gave forth the Scriptures, and wouldst draw all others into the same carnal state with thee, and it is thou that wouldst ty up and dost ty up with thy carnal minde, and limit the holy One, as may appear by thy blindness and ignorance, and the people that thou teachest, who drawest them under the carnal Form, and here thou hast denyed the immediate teaching of God, Isai 54. 13, 14. which all the Saints of God witnessed and followed the ways of, and all that ever know the Lord, and here thou hast shewed that thou dost not know the Lord, but livest in high blasphemyes, and in the state of the Scribes and Pharises, who professed God and Abraham, but were of their Father the Devil, and there thou art in the same gene∣racion doing the lusts of thy father the Devil, who was ever an enemy to Christ, as thou mayst reade thy self in the generacion of all them Teachers, as thou hast openly shewed thy self: Friend, it

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is thy own proud fleshly minde, that doth confine God, but thou art discoverd, and it shall not be long but thou shalt be more ma∣nifest to thy open shame, thou hast walked long enough under a cover, but now thy skirts are uncovered, and thy nakedness appears; and a Scripture thou bringst Isai▪ 2. 22. Cease from man, which thou sayst will not serve our turn, but it doth serve our turn, for we own it, and witness it fulfilled, therefore do we cease from all men, which hold up the carnal means, which thou speakest of, and all hierlings, and all them that bear rule by their means, and all them that seek for their gain from their quarter, and all them that are called of men Master, and hath the chief place in Assemblyes, and all they that paynt themselves with other mens words, and all them that go in the way of Cain and Balaam for gifts and rewards, Jude 11. and all those that have the form of godliness and not the power, and all those that wrest Scripture to their own destruction, and give meanings and carnal senses upon it, and all such as lead illy women captive, (which thou hast sayd to be us) ever learning and never able to come to the knowledg of the truth, 2 Tim. 3. 7. for thou sayst, they shall never overcome as long as they are here; and thou believest here; but thou art one that livest in thy lust; here thou hast shewed that thou art one that the Prophets and servants of God cryed against, who were taught immediately by the Spirit of God, and this was not after man, neither according to man; the Apostle sayd, the Gospel that he preached was not after men, for he had not received it of man that taught it, all such we own, but all such as are in the way of man, as thou art, we utterly deny them, which holds up these abominacions, which all the Pro∣phets of God cryed against; and here thou hast raced thy self out from among them all; those that God sent and commanded, as thou sayst, since the Prophet bade them cease from man, Isai 2. 22. those were not made by the will of man, neither was their teach∣ing according to man, but it was immediate & eternal, which thou knowst nothing of, as thou makest it appear; and such we own▪ but thee we do deny, for thou art blinde and knowst it not: And as touching the Books, and Writings, and Printings, which thou accusest us of, and running so many miles; the Queen of the South came to hear the wisdom of Solomon, and the Prophets of the Lord somtimes they were moved to speak against such as thou art, (who livest in the abominacions) and somtimes were moved to write, as one of the Prophets did; and here thou shewest thy self

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gnorant of the Scripture, and envious against the same power, and the same eternal Word which is now discovering your abomi∣nacions, as the Word did then, so the eternal Word doth now; and thy minde being carnal and outward, looking up at things outward, and so thou shewest thou hast nothing eternal born up in thy understanding, and so thou lookest upon the same which we speak or give forth in writing, to be the same carnal minde that thou art in, and so thou judgest all the Prophets, and Christ, and the Apostles, to be in the same carnal state as thou art, judging Scripture according to thy carnal minde, 2 Cor. 3. 6. & 3. 4. and so to thee, truth is a savour unto death, as it was ever; but wee are moved of the Lord to write forth or to speak; it is not an outward means as thou lookest upon, but it is to the conscience of every man, from that which is eternal to that which shall eternally witness it; but thou art high up in thy hypocrisie, and hast mens persons in admiracion, because of advantage (for the gift;) there∣fore it grieves thee to see the immediate and eternal teaching of the Lord alone, who is teaching of his people, and guiding them up to himself by his Spirit, whose Sacrifice God doth accept, Gen. 4. 5, who are in the second birth; but thou art Cain, and because thou seest the works of God, and God accepts not thy Sacrifice, therefore thou shewest forth thy envy against the righteous Seed in all thy words.

Query 13. Whether they be not Antichrists and do disobey Christ, that have the chiefest place in the Assemblyes, stand praying in the Sy∣nagogues, called of men Master, which things Christ did forbid his to act, and cryed wo against them that acted such things?

Priests Answer. No question, what is against Christ in the flesh is a part of Antichrist, and to be destroyed, but as yet none of you all that I know have proved, that the uppermost seats in the Syna∣gogues were Pulpits, there seats were more for honor than for ser∣vice, that Christ forbids and reproves, and these places were taken out of love to them: and for the Title of Master, I would to take off the offence, if that would do it, that all would agree to call me by my name, I take not the Title in love of it, nor to have do∣minion by it, and the Wo is against this, yet I know there were Masters of the Assemblyes, so called by as wise a man as any a∣mongst you, for ought I know, Eccles. 12. 11.

A Reply to the Priests Answer. In thy Answer to this Query, thou canst not justifie the chiefest place in the Assemblyes, there∣fore

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thou must own the Wo upon thee: and Friend, thou bringst a Scripture in Eccles. 12. 11. to cross Christs words, herein thou shewest to be a fighter against hrist for to maintain thy Master∣ship, that thou mayst be a Master of an Assembly; and here openly thou shewest thy self to be a Pharise, and in the Pharises state; sayth Christ, A greater than Solomon is here: Now thou hast shewed forth thy venom and ignorance indeed, and openly to act against Christ, and openly to be an Antichrist, and a Pleader for the state of the Pharises, and to contradict Christ. Thou sayst, no question but that which is against Christ in the flesh is a part of Antichrist, thou hast shewed thy self to be an actor against Christ in the flesh, and an Antichrist, and shewest that thou never knewst him in the flesh nor in the spirit, for he that walks in the spirit doth not fulfill the lusts of the flesh, but hath crucified them, and all things are become new, Rom. 8. 13. but as thou sayst and dost believe, that a man shall never overcome as long as he is here, so shewing forth the old Bottle, and what is within thee, Matth. 9. 17. here is pour∣ed out, which neither knows God nor Christ in the flesh nor in the spirit, but hast poured forth thy blasphemy against Christ and his Doctrine, and all who hold up his Doctrine, and live in it, and love Christ.

Query 13. Whether those be not Antichrists, and of the Devil, and no Ministers of Christ, which do not abide in the Doctrine of Christ, yea or no, and which hold up those things Christ forbad?

Priests Answer. Thou strainest at a Gnat, and swallowest a Camel; thou takest great care of Mint and Annis, and neglectest the weigh∣ty things of the Law, who preachest up that which Crist for bad, prove what thou speakest; if thou darest trust God, as I desire to do, wait with me for the time that God shall discover, who abides with him and in his Doctrine, and who doth not, so far as it is re∣vealed and open.

A Reply to the Priests Answer. In thy Answer to this Query, thou sayst we strain at a Gnat and swallow a Camel, because we deny that which Christ denyed; who were called of men Masters, as the Pharises were, who strained at a Gnat, and swallowed a Camel; Matth. 23. 7. and thou mayst say that Christ did so, for Christ spoke against them who were called of men Masters, and taught his not to be so, nor to call any man Master, and here thou hast justified that which Christ forbids: And thou dost accuse us that we do

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take care of Mint and Annis, because we say, Whosoever abides not in the Doctrine of Christ is a Devil; and here thou hast shewed thy self that it is thou that takest care for those things that pass away, which Christ did forbid: thou bidst me prove thee to preach that which Christ did forbid; here in thy very words thou preachest up that Christ forbids and cryes Wo against, and here I chargethee in the presence of the living God, who will render ven∣geance in flames of fieJer. 51. 6. Nah. 1. 2. and here thou hast shewed thy self to be in the Doctrine of the Pharises and of the Devil, and accusest us with tything Mint and Annis, who art a Lyar, for all those things you hold up, and we deny, and it is thou that dost justifie them; Dost thou not hold up these frivo∣lous things? the chiefest place in the Assembly, and to be called of men Master, laying heavy burdens upon the People, and stand praying in the Synagogue, this thou strivest to hold up, which we deny; the commands of Christ thou callest them Mint and Annis, which is a Ly; and here thou wrests the Scripture to thy own destructi∣on; I charge thee here, and have proved thee to preach that which Christ forbad, and shut thee forth to be any Minister of Jesus Christ eternally, or knowing any thing of him: thou wouldst have me to wait with thee, if I dare trust God; I waited with thee too long, but thou art now revealed and discovered thou man of sin and son of perdicion, 2 Thess. 2. 3. who art exalted above all that called God, and thy Doctrine is discovered, and the end of it, for it leades to perdicion, for out of the bottomless Pit it came, and thi∣ther it must go: and in thy Queryes thou desirest to know which is most like Antichrist, and here thou shewest that thou dost not know Antichrist, but we know thee to be Antichrist, 1 John 4. 3. and acting in those things which Christ never commanded, contra∣ry to Christ, and yet thou professest thy self to be a Minister of Christ, and yet knowest not Antichrist.

Query 15. Whether they be not Seducers that draw People from the Anoynting within them, and tells them they must have a Teacher without them, when as he who was a Minister of the Gospel sayd, You need no man teach you but as the same Anoynting teacheth, and the pro∣mise is to him that abideth in it, eternal life.

Priests Answer. If thou canst prove and make good thy charge, that I draw People to look from the Anoynting within them, to the Teachers without them, spare me not, God hath taught me to instruct those whom I speak to, not to look on, or

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rest on the outward Teacher, but to look unto the Spirit of Christ, the Teacher even within them, where he is, to have that made out to them by his light and power that they here speak of, the Ministers without, and that thy own conscience must needs convince thee of to be tru, unless thou art wilfully blind, which is, I fear, a judgment upon many of you: The Lord make out & dis∣cover more & more, let it fall where it will, who are Seducers of the People, and whether they be not so that teach & perswade People, that every man hath the Anoynting in them, and a Light that will lead them to Heaven without any more ado: I am much mistaken if the Preacher of the Gospel that thou speakest of prove not the very thing in 1 John 2. 18, 19, 20, 26. reade and consider, and God give thee to understand; note what John sayth in that place cited by thee, 1 John 2. 27. and you need not that any man teach you, but as, &c. in this to me, not quite taking off men from speaking and hearing, but onely from speaking and hearing what is not agree∣able to the Anoynting, men are to speak as the Anoynting speaks, and then they are as the Oracles of God, 1 Pet. 4. 11.

A Reply to the Priests Answer. Thou wouldst have it proved, & have the charge made good, that thou drawest People from the Anoynting within them to the Teacher without them. I answer, thou dost openly shew that thou dost draw People from the An∣oynting within them, for he that is taught of the Anoynting need not any man to teach him but as the Anoynting, and he that sayd so did not bear rule by his means, as thou dost, and hast got the Form of words, and mayst speak those words, but if any come to witness that they need not any man to teach them, Heb. 8. 10, 11. as the Saints did them, thou sayst, he denyes the means which God hath afford∣ed, because they will not hold up thee, and justifie thee in thy beastly and carnal worship, and callest that tempting of God, and fancy, and desperate folly, when we come to witness the Anoynting that they need no man to teach them; herein thou hast shewed forth thy folly, and fancy, and desperate wickedness, foolishness, and madness, as Balaam did when the dumb Ass rebuked him: thou sayst, God hath taught thee, but thou art a Thief and a Lyar, and hast stollen the word, for thou denyest that which should teach thee, the Light which God teacheth by, the Light which en∣lightneth every one that cometh into the world, Iohn 1. 9. yet thou de∣nyest the immediate teaching of God; I charge thee, for if any witness to be taught alone with the Anoynting, and deny all mens

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teaching but onely the immediate Spirit, which all the men of God were taught by, that thou sayst is a tying up of God, and herein thou hast shewed forth thy self, that thou dost not know the immediat Teaching, nor the Anoynting, for those who are taught with the Anoynting, do deny thee and all such as thou art. Thou sayst, God hath taught thee to instruct others; thou hast nothing from God to instruct others withall, but keepest them in thy im∣mitated Forms, and Customs, dead and husky prayers, and what thou dost get with studying and devising of thy own Brain, that thou feedest poor ignorant people withall, and sayst God instruct∣eth thee; here I charge thee to bee a Lyar, and the wo was de∣nounced against such as thou art: therfore we deny thee as the Prophets of God denied them, for the same is made manifest to us now, which lets us see thee, as it did them then: Prayses be to God for ever. Friend, the Light and power of God thou deniest, and art ignorant of, and that which should exercise thy Consci∣ence, for thou deniest the Light that enlightneth every one that com∣eth into the world: And why dost thou talk of the Light and of the power of God, who art ignorant of the Light, and disobedient to it? but the God of this World hath blinded thy eyes, 2 Cor. 4. 4. and therfore thou endeavourest to keep others in the same heathenish nature thy selfe art in: wherfore to my Conscience thou speakest nothing, nor canst speak to the Conscience, for thou deniest the immediat Teaching, and callest that a tying up of God, O thou blasphemer! Thou desirest to let the Plagues and Judgments fall where they will, upon them who are Seducers; thou needest not desire the Plagues, for they are thy porcion, and here thou hast shewed thy selfe to be blind and ignorant indeed; for thou dost not know a Seducer, nor thy own condicion; therfore thou art not fit to teach others.

A Question thou askest, Whether they be not Seducers, that teach and perswade peeple, that every one hath the Anointing in them, a Light that will lead them to Heaven without any more ado? Answ. Here thou shewest forth thy foolishness indeed; for thou wouldst bring peeple forth into the doing the works of the flesh, into the broad way, which work is death, and the End of all thy Ministry is to draw peeple from the Anoynting, and from the Light within them, and to draw them to thy Teaching, wherby thou makest thy selfe manifest to be a Seducer: All who do witness the Anoynting, and walk in the Light, 1 Iohn 2. 8. such thou lookest upon to be Seducers,

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with thy dark mind, who canst not see them who draw peeple from thy dark Ministry, to mind the Light of God within them, as the A∣postle sayd, take heed to the Light of God within you: and this thou dost look upon to be seducing, & that it is not sufficient for to guide them to Heaven, but▪ that they must come out from the Light within them, to thy Doing, which we deny, and all thy preach∣ing practise, and Invencion, which is witchcraft; and here I charge thee to be a Witch, and to bewitch the people. Thou dost bring a place of Scripture 1 Iohn 2. 18, 19, 20. which thou exhort∣est to read, which is a Rod for thy own back, concerning you need no man to teach you but the Anoynting: for many came out with us, but it is manifest they were not of us, because they did not continnue with us: but thou art uncome-forth, and thou knowest not this condicion, but art in the world among Antichrists false prophets, and Beasts; and yet thou wouldst be busy among the Saints con∣dicions: but this I say to thee, All who are come out from among such as thou art, need not any man to teach them, but as the An∣noynting. But they who do not continu, they turn from the An∣noynting: and he that denieth the Father and the Son, is a Lyar and an Antichrist; he that hath the Son, hath the Father also: ther∣fore we do know thee to be Antichrist, who should come. Friend thou speakest of Speaking and Hearing what is not agreeable to the Anoynting; be silent, O flesh, for thou knowest nothing of the Anoynting; thou art one of those whose mouth must be stopt, thou art one of those dumb Prophets, who hast nothing from the Anoynting, but denyest it, but onely thou hast got the form of words to make a Trade of it, and denyest the thing it self.

Query 16. Whether they do not bewitch People, that draw them from the Spirit within, to observe the Ordinances of the world? when as the Apostle sayd, They did bewiteh you, that drew you to observe Cir∣cumcision, which was the command of God, when he who was the sub∣stance of those Types and Figures was come.

Priests Answer. The Lord rebuke this lying spirit that is a∣mongst you; who is that which goeth to draw people from the Spi∣rit within to observe the Ordinances of the world name them, and blame them: those that are lead by that Spirit of God, and have him in good earnest, do make use of the Ordinance of Christ, in a more spiritual manner, not to draw them from the Spirit, but but to draw them into the Spirits likeness, possession and enjoy∣ment,

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the Lord rebuke that prophane Spirit among you that dares to call the Ordinances of Christ the Ordinances of the world, that cares not what dishonour you put on Christ, his Truth, his Waies, his Servants: The Lord judg, and let all the Lords People judg whose Eyes are open, whether they do not bewitch poor creatures that carries them from beginning in the Spirit to end in the Flesh, Gal. 3. 1. 3. from the Gospell to the Law, from Justificacion by Faith, to Justificacion by works, from loving the Appearance of God, to Strife, Malice, Hatred, and to the Appearance of Sathan; from Peace, to a constant restlesnesse either in their own Spirits, or outwardly troubling others, by Writing, Printing, braen-faced-Rayling, and Reproaching, without heeding whether they speak Truth or a Lye.

A Reply to the Preists answer, Thou art he that goes about to draw people from the Spirit within them, to observe thy carnall Tradicion, and Imitacion, and to observe the Ordinances of the World, and it is thy Spirit which is that Lying Spirit which thou mencionest, which the Lord will rebuke and must rebuke; for thy Lord and God I do deny, for the living Lord God of Heaven and Earth, thou knowest not, no more than a naturall bruit Beast Jude 10. for thy God is the God of the World, and he is thy Lord, and the Lying spirit rules in thee, as thou hast made it to apear; thou art he, therefore I name thee, and blame thee Camelford, and the Lord will blame thee and rebuke thee. Freind, none of the Ordinances of Christ dost thou know, for all thy Preaching is of thy selfe, Christ never commanded it, nor never commanded thee, nor thy Praying, nor thy Singing, Christ never conmanded it, but it is the Invencion of thy Brain, and the invencion of man, and to the Ordinances of Christ thou art an Enimy: Thou dost openly show thy selfe to be a witnesse against them who are the Ministers of Christ, and who a∣bides in the Ordinance of Christ, that witnesse against such as thou art, but all the Ordinances of Christ Iesus we witnesse and own, but thou to them art an Enimy▪ therfore thee and all thy Ordi∣nances do we deny, and all that which thou calst spirituall manners for this is but thy Gloss and Colour, that thou mayst appear beu∣tifull with thy spirituall nocion, but thou art discovered! Praises be to the glorious Lord God Almighty for ever. Thou sayst thou dost not draw them from the Spirit, but drawst them into the Spirits likenesse; here thou hast made a graven Immage, and the likenesse of a thing, and the Lord forbids that thou shouldst make

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to thy self any graven Immage, or the likenesse of any thing that is in Heaven or in the Earth, and here thou hast showed thy spirit to be a contrary spirit; in this thou showest thy self to be a Lyar, for thy worship is not so much as the likenesse of a spirit, for the Spirit is one, and it we own, but thy likenesse of Spirit we deny. Thou sayest again, the Lord rebuke that Lying-spirit, and I say to thee, thy Lord we deny, and the Lord God of Heaven and Earth, doth now rebuke thee thou Lying-spirit, for him thou knowest not, and calest it a Lying-spirit, for thou prayest to thy Lord to re∣buke the Spirit of truth, which shall confound thee and thy Lord; here thou hast shewed forth thy prophanesse, and blasphemy, and it is made manifest what God thou servest, even the God of the world. Thou sayst, let the Lord judg and all whose eyes are opened: The Lord doth judg, and hath judged, and all the Lords people doth judg whose eyes are opened, they judg thee and all such as thou art, in Righteousnesse, and see thee clearly; Prayses be to the glo∣rious Lord God. The day from on high dth spring. A question thou askest, whether they do not bewitch poor creatures, that turn them from beginning in the Spirit, to end in the Flesh? Ans: yea I say they do, and thou art one, for as thou saydst before in thy Query, when thou askedst whether the Light was sufficient to lead people to heaven without any more adoe, thou shewest all thy doings tend to draw People from the Light, into the works of the Flesh and from waiting to be justified in the Spirit, and to lead them into condemnacion, and there thou art, one that be∣witches the people, who know not the Spirit, but those who are led and guided by the Spirit and walk in it, deny thy Freedom in the flesh, and thy liberty, and all thy carnall Ordinances and Tradicions, And it is thou that drawest people from the Apostles doctrin, and from the Law of God within, and from Justificacion to the Law of works, into thy carnal imitated way: but the Law of Faith, and the Law of God, and the Teachings of the Spirit, this we witnesse and own, as that which the Apostles was taught by, and by this we seek to bring all People from under thy carnall teaching, and we deny it all, and thee both. And whereas thou dost accuse us for drawing people from the Appearance of God, to Strife, Mallice, Envy, and Hatred, and to the Appearance of Sathan; herein thou hast shewed thy selfe to be a false accuser, 2 Tim. 3, . and a Lyar, in saying we draw people from the Appearances of God; we draw People up to God, from Wrath, and Malice, and the Appea∣race

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of Sathan, for in Wrath, Malice, and Envy, and Strife thou livest in; for who are drawn from thee, and the Appearance▪ of Wrath, Malice, and Strife, lives in Joy, and Love, and Unity one∣with another: and as for what thou speakest of constant restlesse∣nesse it is thy own, for all who are drawn from you are drawn in∣to stedfastnesse, and the Spirit of them that are drawn from you thou knowest not: Thou who art restlesse and keepest all other in restlesnesse, ever learning and never able to come to the know∣ledg of the Truth, 2 Tim. 3, 7. and therefore thou judgest them like thy self: and it seems our Papers, and Writings, and Speakings do torment and trouble thee as ever the power of Truth did the Pha∣rises; for the Prophet who was moved to write the Roul, when he sent it to him unto whom it was directed, he burned it; so doth Writing now torment and trouble thee: And whereas thou accu∣fest us of brazen-faced Rayling, and reproaching, without heeding whether we speak Truth or a Lye: Ans: All this state and condici∣on thou art in: Brazen-faced thou art, for thou art a Beast, and brazen-faced in uttering forth thy Lyes, and thy Railing, and thy venomous filthy Speeches, and thou it is that dost not heed whe∣ther thou speakst Truth or a Lye; for Truth thou canst not speak, for thou canst do no otherwise, for thou art of thy Father the De∣vill Who was a Lyar from the begining, for the truth yet thou know∣st not, but we speak the Truth as it is in Jesus, and lye not, and testifie to that which should excercise thy Conscience 2 Cor. 4. 2. and eternally shall all you witnesse us Cor 5 11 though the ly∣ng-Spirit in you now judg the power of Truth to be a Lye, which ever the lying-Spirit did, but thy Spirit is tryed, and we know what thou art, an enimy to the Truth, and without God in the World

Query 17. Whether you have the same Spirit as was in the Apo∣stles, and Christ, and the Prophets, which gave forth the Scriptures, seeing you act contrary to the Scriptures, and follow your own Invencions and Tradicions, and so have erred from them all.

Priests Answer. The same Spirit that Christ had, the Prophets, and Apostles had, and the same have all that are Christs; there is but one Spirit of Light, Truth, and Peace in the Body of Christ, 1 Cor. 9 14. and all Dispensacions are given forth by this one Spirit. Yer I do beleive this Spirit is given forth in severall measures, and degrees, to the Body of Christ, Ephes: 4, 7. 1 Cor: 12. from the 4 Verse to the 12. Yea I do also beleive; no man to this day, in the

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world, hath so full a measure of the Spirit, as the Penners of the Scriptures had: they had the gift of Toungs, and were by the Spi∣rit enabled to preach to any part of the world; I do not know any that hath such a gift by the Spirit; they had a gift of healing the Sick, and curing the Lame in their bodily infirmities: I know non such, no not the perfectest among you; they had by the Spirit a gift of Prophesie, which was tru, and came to passe: and though you have had those among you that have pretended to this, yet all that hath been, is but a discovery of that Lying-Spirit they were led by, enough to make you blush, but that you are brazen∣faced: They erred not in discovering the minde of God to us; I know none that can rightly boast of such a measure.

I have taken the Pains to answer thy Queries particularly; ex∣cuse it not, but answer me. I have propounded so again, that is particularly. The Lord open your eyes, that what is of God, and Truth, may fix on many of you, that you may escape out where the Snare of Satan is broken, and I shall rejoyce in my Pains▪ Farewell.

A Reply to the Priests Ans: Freind, here thou hast confessed that all hath the same Spirit that are Christs, and here is Confusion in thy words, and thou shewest that thou canst not witness it thy self, but sayest others hath it thou dost beleive, and yet after, thou com∣est to deny it, and sayst no man in all the world, hath so full a mea∣sure of the Spirit, as the Penners of the Scripture had; and Freind, here thou shewest thou hast not the same Spirit that was in Iesus, and he that hath not the same Spirit is none of his, Rom. 89. and it doth show, that thou readst the Scripture with thy Carnall minde; and sayst, thou dost beleiv the Spirit is given forth in severall measures, and degrees; thou sayst it because the Scripture sayth it, but thou knowest not Christ, neither art thou a Minester of him; and the working, and Operacion of the Sprit, thou knowest not, as thou showedst it before, neither dost thou know the gift of God, but art querying the Condicions of them that had received the gift, and afterward fell away, after they were made pertakers of the heaven∣ly gift, which showes that thou knowest not the gift of God, nor art not made pertaker of it (but art in the Fall, and so showest forth thy Ignorance) for if thou wert made a pertaker of the hea∣venly gift thou wouldst leave of buying and selling the Letter, and making Merchandize of it Rev. 18, 11. Thou sayst, thou dost not know any one, that hath such a gift to preach in any part of the

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world, nor the gift of Tongues, here thou shamest thy own Pro∣fession in the natural state, and the natural preaching, and all thy fellows who profess Tongues▪ and your carnal Original; thou sayst thou knowest not any that are so gifted, to speak in all parts of the world▪ here thou shewest thy self that Christ never sent thee, for whom Christ sent to preach, he sayd, Go preach to all Na∣tions, to every Creature, Matth▪ 16. 15. but he did not send them for gifts and rewards, for it was Balaam that looked after such things, and in that generacion thou art, envying the righteous: thou sayst thou dost not know the same gift amongst us; neither dost thou see it among the Apostles; for the same that was in the Apostles, we witness, the blinde see, the deaf hear, the lame walk, and them that have layd long under such false Physicians as thou art are cured, the dumb speak, and therefore thou ragest (as thy Example the Pharises did) and sons and daughrers prophecy, Ioel 2. 28. but such were called mad men and fools by such as thou art in their genera∣ion, who art out of the truth; and whereas thou dost accuse that we have had such amongst us, as pretend to this Prophecy, thou art a Lyar, there is none pretends Prophecy, and the lying spirit speaks in thee, and thou neither art ashamed, neither canst thou blush; thou sayst thou dost not know such amongst us, therefore thou discoverest thy self, that thou knowst nothing; Thou deaf Adder and Serpent, who art full of Cockatrices, Psal. 8. 4. for if thou couldst see, but thou art blinde, thou mightst see the same gift amongst us as was among the Apostles, for we witness the same by the same spirit, according to the operacion, but the lying spirit in thee can judg no otherways of truth it self but to be a lying spirit, for it is in the generacion of them that know nothing of the truth, for that Spirit that we are led by thou knowest not; for if thou wert led by the same Spirit we should be one with thee: but Friend, thy spirit is tryed and known to be the spirit of Er∣ror; thou sayst, the Prophets erred not in declaring the minde of God to you; thou knowest not the Spirit that the Prophets were guided by, nor thou knowest not the minde of God, though thou hast the outside, a declaracion which is to the visible eye without thee, but▪ art in the generacion of them that could tell by the Pro∣phets words where Christ should be born, yet they sought to put him to death, Mark 14. 64. the chief Priests, and so thou art one of them which is an Enemy to Christ, where he is born now, as they were them, and as Iannes and Iambres witstood Moses, so dost thou

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resist the truth, out of a corrupt minde, in the state of Iannes and Iambres, out of the faith, a Reprobate, as thou hast openly shewed it, but thou shalt proceed no farther, for thy folly is and shall be made manifest, 2 Tim. 3. 9. Thou sayst, thou hast taken pains to an∣swer these Queries, thou hast wrested many Scriptures, as it is made manifest, to maintain thee in the state of the Pharises, and to maintain thee an Enemy against Christ, and to maintain thee to be one of Balaams Prophets, and to maintain thee to be one of the hierlings, and to justifie that which Christ forbids, and to main∣tain thee to hold up that horrible filty thing that is committed in the Land, and to bear rule by thy means, Ier. 5. 30, 31. which the Prophets cryed against, and with the Prophets words, and Christs words; and with the Apostles words thou wouldst shelter thy self, and make thy self a cover to maintain thee in thy filthiness; but the Lord God of power is coming to uncover thee, and lay thee more and more open, and make thee bare, that thy filthyness may ap∣pear, to the end that the simple ones who are in captivity under thy subtlety, and snare of iniquity, may be delivered, and peoples mindes directed unto God, that e alone may▪ be exalted to whom be all prayse, honor, and glory for ever. And Friend, thou sayst, that thou desirest that the Lord would open our eys; thou tempter of the Lord, thy Lord we deny, and thy Prayers we deny, the Lord hath opened our eys, Prayse and glory be to him for ever, the Lord hath opened our eys without thy Prayers, Matth. 20. 34. (there∣fore we deny them, they are abominacion) and contrary to thy means hath the Lord opened our eys? 1 Iohn 1. 1. neither is there any thing of God in thy Answers, but thou and thy imagi∣nacions are raced out for ever; and all thy pains thou speakest of, are the works of thy own hands, which were ever cryed out a∣gainst. Thou desirest we may escape out of the snare of Satan▪ where it is broken, we have escaped out of thy snares where they are broken, Psal. 24. 7. and therefore out of thy dominion, and from under thy power are we come, and see thee to be one that the Devil ensnares, who art one of his Souldiers, and not of Christs, fighting for the Devils Kingdom, and fighting against the Saints with thy carnal weapons, and against he Lamb, but the Lamb hath got the victory over the Beast; Prayses, prayses be to the Lord God▪ Almighty for every.

Amen.
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