The opinions of certaine reverend and learned divines concerning the fundamentall points of the true Protestant religion, and the right government of reformed churches Wherein is declared the plaine path-way to a godly and religious life. Published by authoritie.

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The opinions of certaine reverend and learned divines concerning the fundamentall points of the true Protestant religion, and the right government of reformed churches Wherein is declared the plaine path-way to a godly and religious life. Published by authoritie.
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1643.
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THE OPINION OF THE MOST REVEREND FATHER IN GOD IAMES USHER Lord Arch-Bishop of ARMAGH and Primate of Ireland, with some o∣ther Reverend Bishops in IRELAND.

REverend and much respected Brother in Christ; Wee had long since by common con∣sent made ready an Answer to your former Letters which you writ unto us severally some Moneths agon: but be∣ing desirous to have likewise a generall Subscription to it according to that agree∣ment which should be betwixt fellow∣brethren of the Clergy, we deferred the sending of it somewhat the longer in hopes of a meeting. You desire us now in

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your second Letter dated from London March 20. that we would give you our O∣pinion concerning the Conference at Lips∣wich; the rather, because that Conference is likely to have some effect and influence upon the busines you have in hand. Thus therefore; that meeting (though it was called for other ends and reasons) yet see∣ing it was holden with such good suc∣cesse, and that the cheife Divines of both sides had so faire & freindly a Conference, heard one another with such patience, & parted with such love and brotherly affe∣ction, it is a very good signe that this mat∣ter is from the Lord, and from this good beginning who can chuse but hope for a happy and successefull issue?

But yet notwithstanding, they parted differing about three Points: it is well that they differd but in three; & 'tis better yet, that even in those three Points they agreed in most things, and such as are of greatest moment; nor was their difference so much about the thing it selfe, as about some Formes of expression, which for the

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most part we cannot so easily forget and cast off after we have been long accusto∣med to them. For seeing it is confest on both sides, that Christ hath two natures in one person, so inseparably united that nei∣ther can they be divided, nor are they con∣founded, but still remaine distinct and se∣verall without all mixture or aequality (so much as of their Properties,) to what end is it to quarrell about improper and figu∣rative Propositions? so likewise in the Eu∣charist, seeing they both agree that the Faithfull doe eat not only the fruit and be∣nefit, but the very essence (or Substance) of Christ's body; and that on God's part the Sacraments are exhibited entire & perfect, the thing signified together with the sign, what doe they contending about Hypo∣crites and unbelievers? 'tis all one as if Phy∣siions should fall a disputing about a dead man, whether or no the Potion he tooke hath any operation upon him. There re∣maines yet that other much controverted Question touching Praedestination: and yet even in this too it would be no hard

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matter for them to be reconciled, were but spleen and partiality laid aside, and in the roome thereof a reverent and modest feare how we pry too farre into God's se∣cret Counsells, placed and planted: seeing the best and ablest Divines of both sides acknowledge, that in many Questions a∣bout this Mystery we must be faine to take up St Paul's exclamation, O the depth! and that 'tis both lawfull & sufficient for them to rest and hold together in those cleare & undoubted Trueths; namely, that the Ele∣ction of such as shall be saved, was made in Christ; that the destruction of all such as perish, is from themselves; that Salvati∣on is from God; that Faith (yea even fore∣seen Faith) is not from our selves, it is the gift of God, that we may not boast of any thing, seeing we have nothing of our own; all must be ascribed to God: as S. Cy∣prian of old devoutly and pithily spake.

Thus you have, both what we hope & conceive of the Conference at Lipswich. But the most principall and speciall thing, which should be earnestly prest and incul∣cated,

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is this; that in Divine matters, espo∣cially in such high and difficult mysteries as these are, which are rather to be adored than pried into, we ought to have a cer∣taine and set Rule to speake by▪ as S. Austin sometimes prudently and piously coun∣selled: & therefore it would be a very safe and good course for us to refraine from all novell and new-fangled expressions, and to confine the liberty of Prophecying to such Formes and Phrases as the holy Scri∣ptures doe furnish us withall. It remaines, that wee earnestly beseech the God of Peace to bruise Satan under our feet, & that shortly: unto which God we heartily re∣commend you (Reverend Brother) & rest

May 14. Anno 1634.

Your most affectionate friends

  • JAMES ARMAGH.
  • WILLIAM KILMORE.
  • JOHN ARDAGH.

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