Differences in judgment about vvater-baptism, no bar to communion, or, To communicate with saints, as saints, proved lawful in answer to a book written by the Baptists, and published by Mr. T.P. and Mr. W.K. entituled, Some serious reflections on that part of Mr. Bunyan's confession of faith, touching church-communion with unbaptized believers : wherein, their objections and arguments are answered, and the doctrine of communion still asserted and vindicated : here is also Mr. Henry's Jesse's judgment in the case, fully declaring the doctrine I have asserted / by John Bunyan.

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Differences in judgment about vvater-baptism, no bar to communion, or, To communicate with saints, as saints, proved lawful in answer to a book written by the Baptists, and published by Mr. T.P. and Mr. W.K. entituled, Some serious reflections on that part of Mr. Bunyan's confession of faith, touching church-communion with unbaptized believers : wherein, their objections and arguments are answered, and the doctrine of communion still asserted and vindicated : here is also Mr. Henry's Jesse's judgment in the case, fully declaring the doctrine I have asserted / by John Bunyan.
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Bunyan, John, 1628-1688.
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Paul, Thomas, 17th cent. -- Some serious reflections on that part of Mr. Bunyan's confession of faith.
Kiffin, William, 1616-1701. -- Some serious reflections on that part of Mr. Bunyan's confession of faith.
Baptism.
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"Differences in judgment about vvater-baptism, no bar to communion, or, To communicate with saints, as saints, proved lawful in answer to a book written by the Baptists, and published by Mr. T.P. and Mr. W.K. entituled, Some serious reflections on that part of Mr. Bunyan's confession of faith, touching church-communion with unbaptized believers : wherein, their objections and arguments are answered, and the doctrine of communion still asserted and vindicated : here is also Mr. Henry's Jesse's judgment in the case, fully declaring the doctrine I have asserted / by John Bunyan." In the digital collection Early English Books Online. https://name.umdl.umich.edu/A30138.0001.001. University of Michigan Library Digital Collections. Accessed May 2, 2024.

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YOur first Argument to prove it lawful to reject the Unbaptized Saint, is, Because the great Commission of Christ, Matth. 28. from which all Persons have their Authority for their Ministry, (if any Authority at all) doth clearly direct the contrary. By that Com∣mission, Ministers are first to Disciple, and then to Baptize them so made Disciples, and after∣ward to teach them to observe all that Christ Commanded them, as to other Ordinances of Worship. If Ministers have no other Authori∣ty to teach them other parts of Gospel-Worship, before they believe and are baptized; it may be strongly supposed, they are not to admit them to other Ordinances before they have passed this first injoyned in the Commission.

Answ. 1. That the Ministers are to Disciple and Baptize, is granted. But that they are prohibited (by the Commission, Matth. 28.) to Teach the Disciples other parts of Gospel-Worship, that have not Light in Baptism, re∣mains for you to prove. Shall I add, This Position is so absurd and void of truth, that none that have ever read the Love of Christ,

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the Nature of Faith, the End of the Gospel, or of the Reason of Instituted Worship (which is Edification) with understanding, should so much as once imagine.

But where are they here forbidden to teach them other Truths, before they be baptized? This Text as fairly denieth to the unbaptized Believer, Heaven, and Glory. Nay our Au∣thor in the midst of all his flutter about this 28th of Matthew, dare venture to gather no more therefrom, but that it may be strongly supposed. Behold therefore, gentle Reader, the ground on which these Brethren lay the stress of their separation from their Fellows, is nothing else but a supposition, without war∣rant, skrewed out of this blessed Word of God. Strongly Supposed! but may it not be as strongly supposed, that the Presence and Blessing of the Lord Jesus, with his Ministers, is laid upon the same ground also? for thus he concludes the Text, And lo, I am with you alwayes, even to the end of the World. But would, I say, any man from these words, conclude, That Christ Jesus hath here pro∣mised his Presence only to them that after dis∣cipling, baptize those that are so made; and that they that do not baptize, shall neither have his Presence, nor his Blessing? I say again, Should any so conclude hence, would not all Experience prove him void of Truth? The words therefore must be left, by you, as you found them, they favour not at all your groundless supposition.

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To conclude, these words have not laid Baptism in the way to debar the Saint from Fellowship of his Brethren, no more than to hinder his inheritance in Life and Glory. Mark reads it thus; He that believeth and is baptized, shall be saved; but he that believeth not, shall be damned, Mark 16. 16. letting Baptism, which he mentioned in the promise, fall, when he came at the threatning.

God also doth thus with respect to his Worship in the Church, he commands all and every whit of his will to be done, but beareth with our coming short in this, and that, and another Duty. But let's go on.

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