An epistle sent vnto tuuo daughters of VVarwick from H.N., the oldest father of the Familie of Love ; with a refutation of the errors that are therein, by H.A.
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An epistle sent vnto tuuo daughters of VVarwick from H.N., the oldest father of the Familie of Love ; with a refutation of the errors that are therein, by H.A.
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Ainsworth, Henry, 1571-1622?
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Imprinted at Amsterdam :: By Giles Thorp,
1608.
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Niclaes, Hendrik, 1502?-1580? -- Epistle sent unto two daughters of Warwick.
Familists -- Controversial literature.
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"An epistle sent vnto tuuo daughters of VVarwick from H.N., the oldest father of the Familie of Love ; with a refutation of the errors that are therein, by H.A." In the digital collection Early English Books Online. https://name.umdl.umich.edu/A08219.0001.001. University of Michigan Library Digital Collections. Accessed May 5, 2024.
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H. A.
IT is hard to cōprehend any good vnderstanding in any thing
which H. N. doth write / he is so ledd with the spirit of error
in al his wayes. yet may we comprehend that his first reason
here is against himself; we have not made the natural man;
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wherfore he cannot belong vnto vs. Very true; but God hath made
it; therfore it belongs to him. If he made it / and it be his; then
may he require it when he wil / and we must not deny him his own.
Now he requireth it / when for witnesse of his truth men wil shed
our blood; though they doe it vnjustly / yet his requiring is just; and
we may not deny him or his truth / for the saving of our lives; as
before is proved. Of this reason therfore which H. N. bringeth /
we may say with the prophet / | his sword hath entred into his own
hart.
His next reason is a depth of iniquity; for seeming to plead for
God / he seeketh to draw men from God. Gods wil is (sayth he) that
al shaped creatures, so wel the manly creature as any other, should live
& that it might goe wel with thē. So then to save their natural lives /
yeFamilists think they may deny & forswear Christ & al true reli∣gion;
& may cōmunicate with al idolatrie & worship of divils / if
Princes vpō payn of death / shal so cōmād. This was the intende∣ment
of this present Letter / sent to two maydens / that refused (as
it seemeth) the idolatrous Masse and subjectiō to the Romish An∣tichrist /
with hazard of their lives. This is the dayly practise of
the Nicolaitans H. Ns disciples / who rather then they wil suffer
imprisonment / banishment / death or the like / for their religion;
wil joyn with Papists / Protestants / Arrians / Anabaptists / or any
religion / if the magistrate authorize and cōmand it. For though
they hold that theirGod of Love (as they cal him) is the true living
God, and besides him ther is no God more; and his Gods-service of
Love, which they minister vnder the obedience of his Love, is the true
safe-making Gods-service, and besides the same ther is not any Gods-service
more, neyther in heaven nor yet in earth: yet wil they partake
with any of the Godservices vsed in the world / though they be
contrary one to another. For H. N. in his new Gospel complayneth
that|many have vnorderly rejected and blasphemed the services and
ceremonies of the catholik church of Rome, rented the concord & nur∣turable
sustentation of the same, & turned them away therfrom, & even
so out of their knowledg which they took out of the scripture, brought
in certayn services & ceremonies in another wise or order &c. But his
disciples in England / which land hath rejected / and departed from
the catholike church of Rome / (as many other nations have / ) doe
pretend / in their late supplicatiō to the King, yt they ar his true faith∣ful
loyal and obedient subjects, to al his lawes and ordinances spiritual
& temporal, and doe deny that they vary or swarve frō the now esta∣blished
religion in this land, eyther in services, ceremonies, sermons or
sacraments. Thus eyther H. N. or these his folowers / or both / must
needs be hypocrites / that so doe write and professe of two adverse
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churches and religions; when in deed they approve of neyther, but
think as H. Ns| Co-elder avoucheth / that they which remayn without
them and their Communaltie, and without the Requiring of the gra∣cious
Word, and his Service of Love, or withdraw them selves therfrō:
have no living God, nor yet true God-service; but are|without God,
and without Gods-service, in this world. yet notwithstanding this
their judg mēt and profession, rather then the manly creature should
die / they wil fal down before idols / wil deny their God of Love, and
wil worship the Papists God of bread in the Masse / yea wil cōfesse
or deny any point of doctrine / and submitt vnto any Gods-service
or religion. And if they wil thus doe / in things concerning God;
how much more may we think they wil so doe / in things concer∣ning
men. That if any Prince should be so wicked as to forbid al
mariage on payn of death / and cōmand or permit a community of
womē / or whordome; these mē rather thē ye māly creature should pe∣rish /
would not spare to defile their bodies (as wel as their sowles)
in al manner filthynes. Yet syn they not (as they perhaps think)
if their God of Love have their hart in hold / and they be obedient to
the requiring of the service of the Love; for as H. N. sayth|They know
not of any other religion or godservice, then of the service of Love.
But let vs further see / if we can comprehend what H. Ns. positi∣on
here doth imply. If it be Gods wil that the manly creature should
live; and this be absolute and without restraynt; then may not the
Magistrate put any to death for any crime; or make warre vpon a∣ny
occasion; for H. N. wil tel the magistrate / he made not the natu∣ral
man, wherfore he cannot belong vnto him; but vnto God, & his wil
is, that al shaped creatures should live, and that it mought goe wel with
them. This Anabaptistical error / is built on H. Ns. rotten ground;
and that the Familists doe indeed deny the vse of the sword vnto
the Magistrate (contrary to Pauls doctrine Rom. 13.) and al vse of
warrs / may appear by H. Ns. words otherwhere / complayning of
the Land of ignorance (which is every where / but in his Familie)
that|they make there many swords, halberds, spears, bowes & arrows,
guns, pellets, powder, armor or harnesse &c. for that the tyrannical op∣pressors
and those that have a pleasure in destroying, should vse warr &
battel therwithal one against another. And because the taking away
of the sword / is the frustrating of the magistrates office / (for wher∣fore
serveth he / if not as for the wealth of the good / so to take ven∣geance
on them that do evil?) therfore it followeth necessarily / that
they condemne al magistracie in the church / as do also the Anabap∣tists;
for H. N. sayth of his lovely city / that‡no man reigneth over
an other, and that pleaseth God wel, namely that the one man of God
reigneth not over the other. Thus vnder a colour that Gods crea∣tures
al should live / he would abolish Gods ordinances / (who
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hath commanded† that some malefactors should die and not live)
and bring confusion vpon civil polities / as he hath vpon Christian
religion.
Agayn / in that he sayth al shaped creatures should live / and then
the manly creature, so wel as any other; wil it not folow also herevp∣on
that Beasts must live / & may not be killed for the food of man.
For they are shaped creatures / and made by God / not by vs; and so
by H. Ns. learning / cannot belong vnto vs; and therfore may not be
killed for our sustenance; though God do playnly permit it in his
law / Gen. 9. 3. Deut. 12. 20. 21. 22. And so here is another doctrine of
Divils, (as the| holy Ghost caleth it) comprehended in this Oldest
Fathers deep head / whiles by consequence he commandeth to ab∣steyn
from meates; or els his ey-sight fayled him / when he set down
this reason. But the Apostle gathereth quite contrary to this man;
as namely because / The earth is the Lords and the plenty therof /
therfore we may eat al flesh / 1 Cor. 10. 25. 26. Accordingly / should
H. N. (if he had savoured the things of God) have reasoned and con∣cluded;
The Lord made our bodies and our sowles / therfore it be∣longeth
vnto vs / to look that with both we| glorify him. The bo∣dy
is for the Lord / therfore not for fornicatiō: the body is the tem∣ple
‡of the holy Ghost; therfore it may not be prostrate before idols;
for†what agreement hath the temple of God with idols; the body is
the Lords / therfore it may not sit at the table of Divils; and what∣soever
the| hethens or Antichristians offer / they offer vnto Divils /
and we cannot drink the cup of the Lord / and the cup of Divils.
Thus should H. N. if any Christian wisedome or grace had been in
him / have collected and inferred; and not as now he doeth / per∣swade
the two daughters to communion with the church of Rome /
(which the holy Ghost caleththe habitation of Divils) because their
bodies or lives are the Lords; and it belongs not vnto them / to lay
down their natural lives for the testimony of Jesus at any time.
But if H. N. had known in any world what the true life meaneth;
he would not so have disswaded from suffring temporary death for
the Gospels sake. This present life (which he so much estemeth) is
a‡dying dayly, as the Apostle teacheth: the true life is / when the bo∣dy
having been† sowen in dishonour / shalbe raysed in glory. Of
which raysing vp / this Sadducee H. N. is vtterly ignorant / as af∣ter
shal be shewed; and in his ignorance perverteth al religion / and
even reason it self / for to maynteyn a momentany natural life /
though it be to the / perpetual damnation of body and sowl in hel.
His| conclusiō what the man must forsake, that he may be recōciled
to God? not any thing els but his own life, that is the man of syn &c. is
like his premisses / ful of guile and errour; and what truth is in it /
is against himself. Erroneous it is / to say or to insinuate / that we
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may be reconciled to God, by any thing that we can forsake / be it
syn or what els. For our reconciliatiō to God is wrought by Christ
alone / not by ourselves when we forsake synn; of which poynt we
have before spoken. Guileful it is to say or insinuate / that Christ in
willing vs to forsake our lives for his sake / meant that by so doing /
we should be reconciled to God, or that we do so esteem of any mar∣tyrs
death. The man doth by it / (as Christ‡ signified of Peters
death) glorify God; vnto whom he was before by Christs death re∣conciled.
False it is to say a man must not forsake any thing els but
his own synful life; for Christ telleth vs further of†forsaking how∣ses,
brethren, sisters, father, mother, wife, children, lands for his names
sake; and these I trow are not also the Man of syn that lieth hid in
mans hart. But it was farr from H. Ns hart / to forsake any of these
for Christ; he loved his sensual life so wel.
Erroneous it is / that our synful life is that man of synn spoken of
2 Thes. 2. of which poynt / is to be spoken in the next place.
And this onely truth / that we should forsake our own synful life,
overthroweth H. Ns doctrine / and his disciples practise. For syn it
is and a continual synful life / to frequent idolatrous assemblies /
hear masse / worship a God of bread / and the beast Antichrist; ob∣serve
his wicked ceremonies / and professe his heretical doctrines;
as the Nicolaitans wil doe / and H. N. would perswade these daugh∣ters
vnto; whiles yet he pretends to have them leav syn. Dissimi∣lation
and| hypocrisie / is a hateful syn both to God and man; wher∣in
they that live / are altogither strangers from the life of God: and
this is the trade of life and religion among the Familists, who ha∣ting
all religions but their own; yet wil professe counterfeit and
walk in any religion / save their own; for that they doe onely in se∣cret /
because their works are evil; but God in his time / wil give
them their due reward / even openly.