A defence of the Apologie of the Churche of Englande conteininge an answeare to a certaine booke lately set foorthe by M. Hardinge, and entituled, A confutation of &c. By Iohn Iewel Bishop of Sarisburie.
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A defence of the Apologie of the Churche of Englande conteininge an answeare to a certaine booke lately set foorthe by M. Hardinge, and entituled, A confutation of &c. By Iohn Iewel Bishop of Sarisburie.
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Jewel, John, 1522-1571.
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Imprinted at London :: In Fleetestreate, at the signe of the Elephante, by Henry VVykes,
Anno 1567. 27. Octobris.
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Jewel, John, 1522-1571. -- Apologia Ecclesiæ Anglicanæ -- Early works to 1800.
Harding, Thomas, 1516-1572. -- Confutation of a booke intituled An apologie of the Church of England -- Controversial literature -- Early works to 1800.
Church of England -- Apologetic works -- Early works to 1800.
Church of England -- Doctrines -- Early works to 1800.
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The Apologie, Cap. 4. Diuision. 2.
Howe saie ye, doo wee diuise these tales? Is not this the very
course of the Councelles in these daies? Are not al thinges remoued
from the whole holy Councel, and brought before the Pope alone:
that as thoughe nothinge had benne donne to pourpose by the ind∣gementes,
and consentes of sutch a number, he alone maie adde, alter,
diminishe, disanulle, allowe, remitte, & qualifie, what so euer he liste?
Whose woordes be these then? And why haue the Bishoppes, & Ab∣bates
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in the laste Councel at Tridente but of late concluded thus
in thende, Sauinge alvvaies the Authoritie of the See Apostolique
in al thinges? Or why dooth Pope Paschale write so proudely of him
selfe?As though, saithe he, there vvere any General Councel ha∣ble
to prescribe a Lavve to the Churche of Rome: vvhereas al
Councelles both haue benne made, and haue receiued their force,
and strength by the Authoritie of the Churche of Rome: and in
ordinaunces made by Councels, is euer plainely excepted the Au∣thoritie
of the Romaine Bishop. If they wil haue these thinges al∣lowed
for good, why be Councelles called? But if they commaunde
them to be voide, why are they leafte in theire Bookes, as thinges
allowable?
M. Hardinge.
Sir, what neeede you bestowe so mutche talke in vaine? Is 〈◊〉〈◊〉 not reason the members acknowe∣ledge
the heade? VVoulde you the members to worke their actions without the heade? Is Pope Pascha∣lis
to be called proude for preferringe the Churche of Rome before a Councel? Haue not Councels euer
ben thought to lacke theire ful Auctoritie,‡ whiche were not called and confirmed by the Bishop of
Rome?
The B. of Sarisburie.
The Modestie, and Sobrietie of Pope Paschalis claime shal better appeare
in the nexte Diuision. Verily the Churche of Rome, these many yéeres, maie séeme
to haue benne nothinge els, but a Moother of Falsehed, & a Schoole of Pride. Pope
Nicolas saithe,De Sedis Apostolicae iudicio nemini licet iudicare: It is lawful for no∣man
to iudge of the Popes Iudgemente. And of late yéeres, Pope Leo saide, Pa∣pa
habet Authoritatem super omnia Concilia: The Pope hathe Authoritie ouer al
Councelles. That al lawful Councelles haue euermore benne summoned, and
confirmed by the Pope, it is a mauifest, and grosse vntruthe: as hereafter it shalbe
opened more at large.
Where ye saie, It is reason, the Members shoulde acknowledge theire Heade, For shame,
M. Hardinge, and for your credites sake, once leaue these vanities. If the Pope be
any parte of Goddes Churche, he is a Member, and not the Heade: and the Faith∣ful
of the Churche of God, are Christes Members, and not the Popes.