A common apologie of the Church of England against the vniust challenges of the ouer-iust sect, commonly called Brownists. Wherein the grounds and defences, of the separation are largely discussed: occasioned, by a late pamphlet published vnder the name, of an answer to a censorious epistle, which the reader shall finde in the margent. By I.H.
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A common apologie of the Church of England against the vniust challenges of the ouer-iust sect, commonly called Brownists. Wherein the grounds and defences, of the separation are largely discussed: occasioned, by a late pamphlet published vnder the name, of an answer to a censorious epistle, which the reader shall finde in the margent. By I.H.
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Hall, Joseph, 1574-1656.
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London :: Printed [by William Stansby] for Samuel Macham, and are to be sold at his shop in Pauls Church-yard, at the signe of the Bull-Head,
1610.
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Robinson, John, 1575?-1625. -- Answer to a censorious epistle.
Church of England -- Controversial literature.
Brownists -- Early works to 1800.
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"A common apologie of the Church of England against the vniust challenges of the ouer-iust sect, commonly called Brownists. Wherein the grounds and defences, of the separation are largely discussed: occasioned, by a late pamphlet published vnder the name, of an answer to a censorious epistle, which the reader shall finde in the margent. By I.H." In the digital collection Early English Books Online. https://name.umdl.umich.edu/A02522.0001.001. University of Michigan Library Digital Collections. Accessed May 4, 2024.
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SECTION. XXV.
What separation England hath made.
THE Church of England dooth not now wash
her hands of Babilonish abhominations, but ra∣ther
shewes they are cleane. Would God they were
no more foule with your slander then her owne An∣tichristianisme.
Here will bee found not pretences
but proofes of our forsaking Babylon; of your forsa∣king
vs, not so much as wel-coloured pretences: You
beginne to be ingenuous; while you confesse a re∣formation
in the Church of England: not of some
corruptions, but many, and those many not sleight,
but maine.
The gifts of aduersaries are thankelesse: As Ierom
said of his Ruffinus, so may we of you, that you wrong
vs with praises: This is no more praise then your
next page giues to Antichrist himselfe. Leaue out
Many, and though your commendations be more
vncertaine, we shall accept it: so your indefinite pro∣position
shall sound to vs as generall▪ That we haue
reformed the maine corruptions of the Romish
Church: None therefore remaine vpon vs; but
sleight and superficiall blemishes, so you haue forsa∣ken
a Church of a foule skinne, but of a sound heart,
for want of beauty, not of truth.
But you say many, not All, that if you can picke a
quarrell with one, you might reiect all: yet shewe vs
that one maine and substantiall error, which we haue
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not reformed: and you doe not more embrace those
truths with vs which we haue receiued, then we will
condemne that falshood which you haue reiected:
and imbrace the truth of that Separation which you
haue practised.
The degrees whereby that strumpet of Babylon
got on Horse-back you haue learned of vs, who haue
both learned and taught, that as Christ came not ab∣ruptly
into the world, but with many presages and
prefigurations (The day was long dawning ere this
Sunne arose). so his aduersary (that Antichrist) breaks
not suddenly vpon the Church, but comes with
much preparation, and long expectance: and as his
rise, so his fall must be graduall, and leisurely: Why
say you then, that the whole Church euery where
must at once vtterly fall off from that Church where
that man of sinne sitteth? His fall depends on the
fall of others, or rather their rising from vnder him:
If neither of these must be sudden, why is your hast?
But this must not be, yet ought: as there must be he∣resies,
yet there ought not: It is one thing what God
hath secretly decreede, another what must be desired
of vs: If we could pull that Harlot from her seate,
and put her to Iezebels death, it were happy: Haue
we not endeuoured it? VVhat speake you of the hy∣est
Towers, and strongest pillers, or tottering remain∣ders
of Babylon: we shew you all her roofes bare,
her walles raced, her vaults diged vp, her monuments
defaced, her altars sacrificed to desolation: Shortly
al her buildings demolished, not a stone vpon a stone
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saue in rude heapes, to tell that here once was Baby∣lon:
Your strife goes about to build againe that her
tower of confusion. God deuides your languages:
It wil be wel, if yet you build not more then we haue
reserued.
But here in the name of the Church of England, you wash your hands of all Babylonish a∣bominations, which you pre¦tend you haue forsaken, and her for, and with them. And in this regard you speake thus: The Reforma∣tion you haue made of the many and maine corrup∣tions of the Romish Ch. we do ingenu∣ously acknow∣ledge, and de•• withall im∣brace with you all the truths which to our know∣ledge you haue receiued in stead of them▪ But Rome was not built all in a day. 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉Hierom. Apol. aduers. Ruffi. 1. l. 1. ••tissa est mihi ••au∣datio tua, id est accusatio mea. Bonum ex integra natura, malum ex singulari defectu.
The mistery of iniquity did aduance it selfe by de∣grees, and as the rise was, so must the fall be. That man of sinne, and lawlesse man, must languish and die away of a consump∣tion. 2. Thes. 2 8. And what though manie of the highest Towers of Ba∣bel, and of the strongest Pil∣lers also be demolished, & pulled down, yet may the building stand still, though tottering to and fro (as it doth) and on∣ly vnderprop∣ped and vp∣held with the shoulder and arme of flesh, without which in a very moment it would fall flat vpon, and lie leuell with the earth.