A. POULIN, JR. THE EXPERIENCE OF EXPERIENCE: A CONVERSATION WITH JOHN ASHBERY In November, 1972, John Ashbery, author of The Tennis Court Oath, The Double Dream of Spring, and Three Poems, appeared on the Brockport Writers Forum, reading from his works. Following the reading, Mr. Ashbery was interviewed by A. Poulin, Jr., of the Brockport English Department in a videotaped presentation. His next book, Self Portrait in a Convex Mirror, received the Pulitzer Prize, the National Book Award, and the National Book Critics Circle Award. Since then, he has published Houseboat Days, As We Know, and, most recently, Shadow Train. POULIN: May we begin by discussing a particular poem of yours, "Leaving the Atocha Station"? ASHBERY: Let me read it: The arctic honey blabbed over the report causing darkness And pulling us out of there experiencing it he meanwhile... And the fried bats they sell there dropping from sticks, so that the menace of your prayer folds... Other people... flash the garden are you boning and defunct covering... Blind dog expressed royalties... comfort of your perfect tar grams nuclear world bank tulip Favorable to near the night pin loading formaldehyde. the table torn from you Suddenly and we are close Mouthing the root when you think generator homes enjoy leered 242
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