The answer to William Penn Quaker, his book, entituled, The new witnesses proved old hereticks Wherein he is proved to be an ignotant [sic] spater-brain'd Quaker, who knows no more what the true God is, nor his secret decrees, then one of his coach-horses doth, nor so much; for the oxe knoweth his owner, and the ass his masters scrip, but Penn doth not know his maker, as is manifest by the Scriptures, which may inform the reader, if he mind the interpretation of Scripture in the discourse following. I. That God was in the forme, image and likeness of mans bodily shape, as well as his soul from eternity. ... VIII. What is meant by the armour of God, the wilderness, and the wilde beasts I fought with in the wilderness. / By Lodowick Muggleton.

CHAP. II. (Book 2)

BEcause what creature soever God made in the Celestial Hea∣vens to set forth his glory, they were not to encrease and multiply, nor to decrease, die, and lessen, but to set forth their Creators glory for ever. For Female of all Creatures, as well as Women, God made on purpose to increase and multiply here in this World; so that one generation might pass away, and another come, even to the end of time: For as to increase and multiply had a beginning of time, as the creation of this world had a be∣ginning of time; so there will be an end of time to this world, and an end of increasing and multiplying both of man, and of all other creatures whatsoever. Furthermore all those living Crea∣tures in Heaven above, did God create out of that earth and mat∣ters above the Stars, all manner of Celestial Creatures, with Spi∣ritual Bodies, every thing in its kind for his own glory, before it came into Gods heart to make this world, or to make man in his own Image. And further God made all Celestial Creatures in Heaven with Spiritual Bodies; and without a body did God make no living Creatu••e at all: neither did God make those Spiritual Creatures in Heaven of nothing, but he had matter to make them of: viz. Earth and Water, as aforesaid.

So that by Faith a man may perfectly know what God was, and is in his form, shape, and nature from Eternity, and what form and nature Angels are of, and of what matter and substance God made Angels, and all other Celestial Creatures their spiritual bodies of in Heaven above the Stars, viz. of that gloriou•• Earth, and Chrystal Seas, or waters above the Firmament of Heaven, the Scriptures are full to prove, the persons and nature of Angels, and the form, person, and nature of God; yet for want of faith, men understand them not, therefore I cannot expect that unbelieving men should understand what matter and substance God made all creatures in Heaven of, seeing the Scriptures hath not declared it as it hath the other; but the Faith that is of Gods own Nature, is not tied so as

to know no more than what is written in publick: For true Faith is the substance of these things hoped for: by him that hath Faith in his heart, and the evidence of things, he never saw by the eye of reason, nor by the sight of the natural eye: I know these things will be looked upon by unbelieving men as idle tales, yet these things may be understood by faith, as well as Paul did under∣stand by faith that the Worlds were framed by the Word of God.

So that the Reader may see, that God hath framed two Worlds by his Word; that is, the Celestial World, where none but Spiri∣tual Bodies are, and this Terrestial World, we now see, where none but Terrestial and Natural Bodies are, where is Mortality in∣creasing and decreasing continually, as long as this World doth last; so that by Faith a man may as well understand, and know what substance and matter God made Angels, and all other Crea∣tures of in that world above, which is called the world to come, because it is yet to come to us, as to know by faith, that this world was framed by the Word of God, or had a beginning, or ever shall have an ending. Th•••• by Faith a man may see as perfectly what God is in Heaven above the Stars, and what Crea ures God hath created there in a Celestial State, and what their forms, shapes and natures are, as really as a man may see the glory, persons, forms and shapes of Kings and Princes, and the forms, natures and shapes of all living Creatures under the Firmament of Heaven, by the eye of sence and reason. Thus the Reader may see that Faith is the substance of things hoped for, and the evidence of things not seen, by the eye of sence and reason.

In the next place I shall interpret those Scriptures Penn brings to prove that God is not in the shape of a man in respect of his Body; and that man in respect of his body is not the Image of God. These are Penn's words, and the Scripture he brings to prove it, is Deut. 33.26, 27. where it is said, There is none like to the God of Jeshurun, who rideth upon the Heaven for thy help, and in his Excell••ncie on the skie, the Eternal God is thy refuge▪ and under∣neath are the everlasting Arms, and he shall thrust out the enemy from before thee, and say, destroy them.

Muggletons Answer and Interpretation let the Reader mind, that this place of Scripture doth no ways prove that God is not in the shape of a man, and that man in respect of his body is not the I∣mage of God, but doth prove altogether that man is the Image of

God in respect of his body as well as his Soul: Mind, that the God of Jeshurun spoken of here by Moses is that very same God Moses speaks of Gen. 1.26. And God said, Let us make man in our Image, after our likeness. In verse 27. So God created man in his own Image, in the Image of God created he him, male and female created he them. These words the Reader may see are plain: Now the Question is, Whether Moses did really believe when he wrote those words, that God made man in his own Image and likeness: I do re∣ally believe that Moses his faith did cause him to speak as he did believe, as David said in another case, I believed, therefore I spake. And that Moses faith did see by Revelation that God was a glori∣ous spiritual body, in form and shape like a man, when God crea∣ted man, and from Eternity, else Moses would never have writen those words without any destinction; & this was the Prophets Faith, and the Apostles Faith, and I am of that Faith, being made Par∣takers of the like pretious Faith and Revelation of Moses, like∣wise I know that Moses Faith was, that man in respect of his bo∣dily shape, is made in the Image of God, and that Gods person, body and shape, though Heavenly, Spiritual and Glorious, was in Form and Shape like a man from Eternity, and is so still, and will be of the same Form and Shape to Eternity: I wonder how the Imagination of Reason in man, came to derogate from the sence of such plain positive words, to imagine the Soul of man to be the Image of God, and not of his Body; so that one half of man is the Image of God, and the other half not: I know the cause is, that the Imagination of all men in the world, are by na∣ture in Chains of darkness, and ••h••ll be reserved in Chains of darkness, until the Judgement of the great day; then shall all men know that God was in the Form and Shape of mans body, as well as his Soul, and that mans body was the Image of God as well as his Soul; but all men shall not see God Face to Face, only such as did believe he had a Face and Body in this Life.

Secondly, This God of Jeshurun is the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, the God of Jacob; the God of Jeshurun was the God of Jacob or of Israel, and God made Moses King in Jeshurun, that is Moses was made King to lead and guide the Inheritance of Jacob, in that he gave forth a Law to the Children of Israel, as you may see in the 4. and 5. verses of this Chapter. Moses commanded us a Law, even the Inheritance of Jacob: And he was King in Jeshu∣run, when the Heads of the People, and the Tribes of Israel were

gathered together. So that the God of Jeshurun was the God of Israel, or the God of Jacob: The same God that made man in his own Image, and that spake to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, and appear did unto them in the form of man, and made Covenants and Pro∣mises unto them, that their Seed should be his Inheritance; And Moses was made King here on Earth, of the God of Jeshuruns Inheritance; so that this Scripture makes not to Penns purpose to prove, that man is not the Image of God in respect of his bodily shape, but altogther the contrary.

In this Chapter, Moses blesseth the twelve Tribes of Israel, and blessing them, he instructed them and encouraged them to trust in that God, that had done so many wonderful things by his hand in in the midest of them: Saying, there was none, meaning no God like unto the God of Jeshurun, that is there was no God like unto the God of Jacob, God of Israel, who rideth upon the Heaven for thy help, and his Excellency on the Skie. 27. verse, The eternal God is thy refuge, and underneath are the everlasting Arms; and he shall thrust out the Enemy before thee, and shall say destroy them. What doth this signifie as to Gods Form, being like unto mans body, because there is no God like unto the God of Jeshurun; therefore shall we conclude, that mans body and shape was not made in the Image of God, as well as his Soul, because there is no other God, nor man can do those wonderful things, as the God of Jeshurun did; these words of Moses were only to encourage the People to trust in that God, that had brought them out of Egypt with a high hand, and parted the Red Sea that they might go on dry Land, and had thrust out their Enemies before them: So that these things they had experience of, might cause them to trust in the God of Israel, or in the mighty God of Jacob, and not rebel against him.