Rome ruin'd by VVhite Hall, or, The papall crown demolisht

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Rome ruin'd by VVhite Hall, or, The papall crown demolisht
Author
Spittlehouse, John.
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Printed at London :: by Thomas Paine, and are to be sold at his house in Goold [sic] Smiths Alley in Redcrosse Street,
1650. [i.e. 1649]
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Presbyterianism
Great Britain -- Church history
Catholic Church -- Controversial literature
Church of England -- Government -- Early works to 1800.
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"Rome ruin'd by VVhite Hall, or, The papall crown demolisht." In the digital collection Early English Books Online 2. https://name.umdl.umich.edu/A93702.0001.001. University of Michigan Library Digital Collections. Accessed June 18, 2024.

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SECT. 6.

Obj. PƲt the case they had a voyce in the election, yet it follow∣eth not, that they had a voyce in the examining, or judge∣ing of their sufficiency: seeing they had not judgement, or sufficiency of themselves, to judge thereof?

Ans. To see how you will prejudicate things, How know you the abilities that them Disciples had? yea you dis-allow that judgement to be in them Disciples, which the text doth justifie of them, for how could they have made choyse of such a man, as Stephen, and the other Deacons, who is said to be full of the

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Holy Ghost, if they had not had judgement to have discerned their abilities, yea those of your owne judgement allowed them Disciples, to have judgement in the examen of a Deacons life, as D. S. granteth.

Obj. If they have judgement in the examen, yet have they not judgement in his other gifts.

Ans. Wherein is the Apostles ever said to question them more, after their election by the Disciples, but that forth-with after they were so elected, and presented, by the Disciples, or Brethren, to the Apostles, and Elders,) they are said to goe to prayers, and then laid their hands on them, Act. 6. 6.

Obj. Put the case that these Deacons, were ordained, by the con∣sent of the people, yet followeth it not, that this consent, was a voyce, because it was not asked of every one apart.

Ans. Put the case it signifieth, what it doth signifie, viz. that they were ordained, by the content of the people, which is that I stand for, and for that their consent, was not a voyce (because it was not asked of every one apart) I answer, by a demand; how you know they were not asked every one apart, seeing the text is neither for it, or against it; neither is it needfull (at all times) in Counsels, to put questions, to particular voyces (when the case is cleare) as it is very probable it was to them Disciples, in that they immediatly consented; but however they agreed, we read they did agree, without any noyse of strife, or division a∣mongst themselves, which you think to be a thing impossible to be done at any such occasion. And seeing that election was so quietly carried on, why may not the like be done in these dayes?

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