The journal of Monsr. de Saint Amour doctor of Sorbonne,: containing a full account of all the transactions both in France and at Rome, concerning the five famous propositions controverted between the Jansenists and the Molinists, from the beginning of that affair till the Popes decision. / Faithfully rendred out of French. ; A like display of the Romish state, court, interests, policies, &c. and the mighty influences of the Jesuites in that church, and many other Christian states, being not hitherto extant.

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The journal of Monsr. de Saint Amour doctor of Sorbonne,: containing a full account of all the transactions both in France and at Rome, concerning the five famous propositions controverted between the Jansenists and the Molinists, from the beginning of that affair till the Popes decision. / Faithfully rendred out of French. ; A like display of the Romish state, court, interests, policies, &c. and the mighty influences of the Jesuites in that church, and many other Christian states, being not hitherto extant.
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Saint-Amour, Louis-Gorin de, 1619-1687.
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"The journal of Monsr. de Saint Amour doctor of Sorbonne,: containing a full account of all the transactions both in France and at Rome, concerning the five famous propositions controverted between the Jansenists and the Molinists, from the beginning of that affair till the Popes decision. / Faithfully rendred out of French. ; A like display of the Romish state, court, interests, policies, &c. and the mighty influences of the Jesuites in that church, and many other Christian states, being not hitherto extant." In the digital collection Early English Books Online 2. https://name.umdl.umich.edu/A93040.0001.001. University of Michigan Library Digital Collections. Accessed June 13, 2024.

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CHAP. VI.

The continuation of our Visites, and what pass'd till the end of March. M. Brousse constrain'd to return into France, in regard of his health. Two Copies of the Memoires of M. Pegna, which we caus'd to be com∣par'd very exactly with the Origi∣nal. What successe our Memorial had against F. Annat's Book.

ON Monday the eleventh of March we visited F. Luca Vadingo; our chief Discourse with whom was (he already understanding our Affair enough) touching the Assembly of Consultors and Qualificators appointed on Thursday follow∣ing. For though, as we told him, we doubted not of their capacity, understanding and good intention; and that almost all those whom we vi∣sited appear'd favourable to the sentiments of S. Augustin, for which we had reason to be sa∣tisfy'd and to praise God; yet, as we told him too, a matter becomes more clear and is more throughly discovered after hearing the Contesting Parties upon it, then when it is barely examin'd by it self, especially when it is intricate, as that in question was; and when, besides the difficul∣ties which are inseparable from it, it is industri∣ously

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embroyl'd and obscur'd, as the Authors of those Propositions had intangled and clouded this. Moreover, That a man is more in his own power, and more fit to passe an equitable and dis-interested judgement, when he has had time to meditate upon a matter, and make all necessary reflexions upon it be∣forehand, then when he has already chosen a side by framing a false Idea to himself of it, and is become engag'd by declaring himself too soon in maintaining the first Impressions he hath had of it, and the first sentiments which he hath discovered to witnesses, before whom he is very loth to retract and acknow∣ledge his being deceiv'd, So that to keep those per∣sons free and equitable without engagement and prepossession, before they came to passe Judge∣ment, we conceiv'd that it would be good that before all things else they heard the Divines of ei∣ther side, who were to oppose or defend the Pro∣positions; and that their own interest as well as ours, oblig'd them to declare to such as importun'd their assembling for delivering their sense of the first Proposition, that this was the right way to be∣gin. And the rather, because the Propositions to be consider'd were subject to more ambiguities then we had represented, and those expresly af∣fected by their Authors. That therefore for an orderly and due proceeding, the first thing to be done was to distinguish the different senses where∣of they are capable; and in order to do that well, to make of each Proposition as many seve∣ral clear and plain Propositions, as it included dif∣ferent senses; that so we might declare first of all which those are that we will not maintain, and for such as we will hold, expect who will oppose them; to hear both the one side and the other according to the usual and necessary formes; and after this was done, then it would be a fit time to ask of them their Sentiment. But to require it of them beforehand, seem'd a little precipitous, and con∣trary, not only to all order of justice, but also to the Request which we had made to the Pope in the name of the Bishops, upon which his Holinesse had caus'd us to hope he would give us satisfacti∣on. F. Luca Vadingo approv'd these reasons; but told us these things were to be represented and desired of the Pope; because for their part, they could only desire them of God, and when they were summon'd to deliver their judgement upon any Propositions, they could do nothing else but deliver it.

In the afternoon I accompani'd M. Brousse to Cardinal Ginetti, who had promis'd him the Re∣liques. He askt us what tidings of our Affair; and we told him we waited for the Pope's resolution upon the Letters and Memorial which we had de∣liver'd to him.

On Tuesday the 12th. I went to see F. Ʋbal∣dino, who wonder'd we had such correspondence at Rome, as to be advertis'd of that Assembly of Consultors. He approv'd the reasons which I alledg'd for deferring it till after both parties were heard, as formerly to F. Vadingo. But he said too, that he could do nothing, at least openly to get them consider'd; underhand he would do his utmost.

I went also to represent the same to F. Delbene, who knew not how to satisfie me but by telling me that we shovld be heard undoubtedly, and it would not be prejudicial to us though they gave their opinion beforehand, because they review'd it several times, and might correct in it what they pleas'd, or change it wholly. I told him, it would do better if they gave it not till after they had so well examin'd things, as to have no occasion to change any thing. I mov'd him also, that he would demand to hear us before giving his own, and also to encline the rest in their Assembly, if thete were occasion to make the same demand. But I obtain'd nothing of him as to this point, no more then I had done of the FF. Vadingo and Ʋbaldino.

Rejoyning my Collegues, we went to see Cardi∣nal Colonna. By the way we met the Ambassador, who seeing our Coach stopt, caus'd his own to stop too, and had the goodnesse to speak to us so long, that he gave us time to testifie to him our sorrow for his late losse of one of his Nephews, who dy'd at Angers: Whereunto he made a very generous and Christian answer, Il n'importe combien il en meure, pourveu que ce soit pour le service du Roy, & que Dieu leur face misericorde. It matters not how many of them dye, so it be for the Kings ser∣vice, and God be merciful to them. We arriv'd at the Palace of Cardinal Colonna, in which there are most magnificent apartments. He receiv'd us with very great civility. We laid forth our Affair to him at large, and he heard it with attention and satisfaction. Our Conference with him was end∣ed by the arrival of the Ambassador of Bologne who came to see him, and with a Complement that I made to him as he reconducted us, upon hope that our cause should finde in him a Protector a∣mongst the living, as it had amongst the dead in Aegidius Romanus, who was his neer Kinsman, and whose memory was still very fresh with him.

In the afternoon we went to Cardinal Costa∣gusti, and finding him busie for some time, we went to Signor Camillo Piazza Procurator of the Accused, to whom we declar'd our Affair, suitably to what I had formerly said to him. He receiv'd our Visite for a great honour, and told us what we demanded was so just that it could not be refus'd to any person. After which we return'd to Car∣dinal Costagusti, who was ready to go abroad. So after some short Discourse, which to avoid being inconvenient to him, we broke off, he profess'd his regret for his being otherwise engag'd, and the satisfaction he should have if we pleas'd to see him another time. Thence I went to Cardinal Ro∣ma, where I stay'd till night to see him, and after the Litanies were done, at which I was present, and which were said daily there during Lent, his Maistre de Chambre inform'd me, that the Do∣mesticks of the Cardinals who were with their Ma∣sters, obtain'd the same indulgences as if they were present at them. The first thing Cardinal Roma spoke of, was, our Memorial against F. Annat's Book, which he offer'd to give me. I pray'd him to keep it, that he might have it ready to shew the next day to the Cardinals at la Minerve, if they hapned to speak of it; because though the Pope told the Ambassador, that his Holinesse had no In∣terest in the book, and that when it was printed it should be censur'd if it deserv'd it, yet I knew the Pope had given the Memorial to M. Albizzi, and perhaps it was to communicate the same to

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their Congregation, to which it was likely M. Al∣bizzi had no great stomach. The Cardinal re∣ply'd that he would carry it thither, to have re∣course to in case of need. Falling then to speak of othes matters of the times, I told him of the Minister of Groning's book, and of the answer preparing to it; as also of the malice and igno∣rance of those who would make use of S. Augustin against us, objecting to us passages out of Pela∣gius's Confession of Faith, as if it were S. Augu∣stin's; and this with such obstinacy, that after ha∣ving been fully convinc'd thereof by books pub∣lisht in answer to them, yet they produc'd the same thing again in a late book, as if they had ne∣ver heard of our clearing it in former Writings. The Cardinal could not think it possible for peo∣ple to be transported to such enormities, and testi∣fy'd great indignation at it. At length I menti∣on'd the principal cause of my coming to his E∣minence, which was the approaching Assembly of the Consultors on Thursday following, the danger we fear'd from it, and how advantagious it would be both for them, and those that defended the truth, if they heard the parties before declaring their opinions. The Cardinal answer'd, that that ought not to dismay me, because the Pope would not hasten to conclude any thing, and his Holiness well knew, that not only his own Reputation, but also that of the H. See was concern'd in this Af∣fair. That all that the Qualificators could do, was of no consequence. That it was not seen: and that the reason of their meeting before hearing us, was that they might ventilate and open the matter a little, and become more capable to hear it and deal with it when we came before them. But o∣therwise I might be certain, that nothing would be decided till the Parties were first heard as much as they could desire: that all this paines of the Con∣sultors, was only to give the Pope and their Emi∣nences some preliminary knowledge, for their better enlightning and disposing to hear what we had to say to them. I signify'd to the Cardinal that I was much heartned by his Discourse; but still I insisted, that it would be better, if before that la∣bour the Consultors heard what might be said by the Parties on either side. The good Cardinal shew'd a reluctancy (no doubt elsewhere infus'd into him) to grant the Parties such an audience and publick Congregation, as I maintain'd was most expedient and profitable for truth; and the pre∣text (suggested to him) was that it would make more noise, and retard and intangle the affair in∣stead of facilitating and advancing it, as he sincerely desir'd; which desire induc'd him to ask us whe∣ther we were ready, whether we had our Memoi∣res all prepar'd to deliver to them when requir'd, adding that it was very expedient that we were ready to present our selves to the Congregation when we should be Advertis'd of it. I answer'd, that the Bishops, by whose order we sue'd for a Congregation, purposed to send some other per∣sons with us when the Congregation was resolv'd upon, and the matter came to be handled in ear∣nest. The Cardinal reply'd, though gently and mildly, that it was something unpleasing that we were not ready: (so he interpreted it, and never∣thelesse he lookt upon the slownesse, to which I seem'd to incline▪ as a thing not to be debated on, but necessary to be granted.) But I told him that that should cause no delay: and when the Congre∣gation was ready, we would forthwith begin to deliver some informations upon the Affair, to em∣ploy the Divines of whom it consisted sufficiently, till others came to assist us to treat it solemnly and thoroughly. But without that too the Consultors might in the mean while be too much busied if they would seriously apply themselves to what was most necessary, in order to the getting of a clear and certaine understanding of those difficulties: namely, to read well in the first place the principal works which S. Augustine hath written expresly upon these matters. The Cardinal assented here∣unto, and added that it was very fitting, since S. Augustin should be the rule of those Disputes, and of the decisions to be made upon them. I re∣ply'd that it was our hope; and when we came to speak and write before that Congregation, we would employ no other weapons but those which that H. Doctor made use of against the Hereticks whom he overcame; but till it were establisht, and its establishment dclar'd to us, our whole Commission was only to sollicite for it. That from some slight passages we presum'd it was pre∣paring, but we had not yet receiv'd any authen∣tical advertisement of it; and till we were so ad∣vertis'd, all that should be done, and nothing, were the same in reference to us.

On Wednesday the 13. we visited the Cardinals di Santa Croce and Homodei, to neither of whom we spoke much, because our visits were inter∣rupted. We visited also at la Minerve F. F. Alva∣rez and Nolano, very zealous and able Domini∣cans.

In the Afternoon we visited the Abbot of S. Pe∣ter in vinculis, who receiv'd us very cordially and civilly. The remembrance he had of what I had formerly signified to him touching our Affair, hindred us from entertaining him further with it. We spoke of the Exorbitances of the Jesuites a∣gainst S. Augustin, both in their Books and Ser∣mons, at which he was fill'd with horrour and in∣dignation. He told us a considerable Cardinal lately visited him, and finding that he was so well inform'd of things, and so sincere for the defence of S. Augustin's Doctrine, embrac'd him with great affection. He spoke to us of the Nomina∣tion made by the Pope of the Cardinals Roma, Spa∣da, Ginetti, and Cechini, as a certain and known thing; and said, he had receiv'd no intelligence of the Assembly of Qualifitators, which we were ad∣vertis'd was to be the next day. By which we ga∣ther'd that he was not chosen to be one of them, though he was one of the Qualificators of the H. Office, and of the most intelligent in Theological matters. He askt us what danger there was in censuring the Propositions in general, seeing, ac∣cording to our selves, they might admit a bad sense? We shew'd him the danger by explicating the first; for that the Adversaries desir'd the con∣demnation of them, only to reflect it upon the Necessity of Effectual Grace, which we maintain'd in that Proposition; which account satisfy'd him. At length, after a long and agreeable entertain∣ment, he shew'd us the chiefest Rarities of his House and his Church; and amongst the rest, the sacred Chaines which are in so great veneration

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in that place, for having been sometimes the In∣struments of S. Peter's captivity.

Leaving him we went to visite F. Aversa at S. Laurence in Lucina. We explicated our Affair to him, which he took very well; and touching the Congregation, he askt us whether we had had any answer about it, and whether it would be erect∣ed? We answer'd, that we had learnt by the com∣mon rumour the names of some of those that were to be of it; but for that nothing had been signify'd to us from the Pope, we did not hold our selves assured, nor make any great account of what we had learnt; because de iis quae non erant, & qua non apparebant, erat idem apud nos ju∣dicium.

On Thursday the 14th. I went in to see F. Lu∣ca Vadingo, and to carry him in the way of a friend two little Latin Discourses upon the Pro∣positions. He told that Cardinal Roma, with whom he had been upon Friday, was well satisfy'd with me, and assur'd him again, that this Affair would not be ended without our being heard as we desir'd & voce & scripto as much as we would. I thankt the Father for his new assurance of Cardinal Ro∣ma's good dispositions; and I told him, that both Justice and Prudence requir'd that regard be had to Time and all the other circumstances which ac∣company affaires. That in the Church circum∣stances and conjunctures sometime oblig'd to con∣demn and reject at one time a Proposition, which would be well receiv'd and approv'd at another. That if we had been in Calvin's dayes when his Heresie was at the highest, I should not have ad∣vis'd to let passe the first Proposition without con∣demnation, if it had been advanced in the same words, and nakedly as it was express'd: because it might seem to countenance his opinion of the impossibility of God's Commandments. But the same Proposition having been deceitfully pull'd out of a place, in which what goes before and what follows, reduce it to a very Orthodox sense and a very Catholick truth; and having been thus expos'd under ambiguous and defective terms, on∣ly to destroy that Catholick truth by the Censure, which they who propose it, endeavour to ob∣tain upon it under pretext of the bad sense of those terms: that the case being thus, I conceiv'd it re∣quisite to hinder it from being condemn'd, with∣out first distinguishing the different senses, and se∣curing the Catholick, for fear of administring ad∣vantage against the same, by an absolute and un∣limited condemnation. F. Luca Vadingo consent∣ed with me, as to the justice and necessity there was of using that distriction and caution.

When I quitted him I return'd to my lodging to take my Collegues, and went together to the Pa∣lace of Cardinal Trivultio. Some of his Gentle∣men came and receiv'd us at the door of his first Anti-chamber, and conducted us through three or four before we met the Cardinal, and there were two or three more to passe through before we came to his own whether he led us, and at each door that was to be pass'd, he made us a civility before he enter'd at it. When we had taken our places in his Chamber, M. Brousse amply and at leisure gave him an account of our affair. He answer'd us that as for the Theological part, he was but little vers'd in it; but for the Political, he would assist us what he could to obtain satisfacti∣on in so just a demand. He said, the Pope wanted not prudence, and he believ'd his Holinesse would have regard to what he desired of him. He told us also, the Jesuites were violent upon this busi∣nesse, and that ever since he acted as the King of Spain's Ambassador he had heard speak of it, and interpos'd in it in reference to the Archbishop of Malines, and the Bishop of Gaunt. We answer'd that ours was not the affair of Jansenius, but one∣ly about Five Propositions, upon which it was important that the Pope pronounc'd a signal Judg∣ment correspondent to his place and the esteem which people are to have of his decision. And the rather for that the boldnesse of those who in∣veigled the Bishops to present such equivocal and fallacious Propositions to him, was incredible, especially they persisting so obstinate in it, after having been convinc'd by so many writings of the unworthinesse of the action which he who was the first author of them committed in presenting them to our Faculty. The Cardinal much approv'd our sentiments, and told us he should willingly receive and hear us as often as we had any thing to say to him. He accompany'd us into the fourth chamber from that in which he receiv'd us, and twelve or fifteen persons of his Court continu'd marching before us to accompany us to the staires. Which ceremonies I mention here partly in acknowledg∣ment to him, who though of the Spanish Facti∣on, and then encharg'd with the affairs of that Monarchy during the absence of an Ambassador, yet treated Frenchmen with so many demon∣strations of esteem and courtesie, and partly not to omit any thing that was most singular and re∣markable in any visite that we made about this af∣fair.

At our coming away from him we went to see the General of the Augustines. He express'd a very deep resentment of this affair, and told us he would apply himself wholly to it; that for the right concluding it, one of the first things he should advise the Pope to do, was, to write to all the Catholick Universities to study S. Augustin, and in the mean time to appoint the Divines here to do the same, that so it might afterwards be more easie to judge what conformity the Propositions in question have with his doctrine. We much ap∣prov'd this advice, and told him it would be ex∣tremely usefull to ruin two objections which were made with as much boldnesse as injustice against that H. Father. First, that he hath spoken with so great obscurity, that it is a hard matter to discover of what opinion he was. And secondly that in the heat of his discourses he hath suffer'd himself to be carry'd into the excesses opposite to the Hereticks which he incounter'd. We mentioned likewise other calumnies dispers'd against that Saint and our selves as well by secret accusations as printed books. And our discourse falling upon that in∣titled Jansenius pessimè meritus, &c. which F. Mu∣lard distributed at Rome, in the first lines of which it is impudently affirm'd that the two and twenty Propositions censur'd at Vallidolid are so many impostures; the truth whereof this General might judge, having had a Censure of the very impression at Vallidolid sent him; he drew the said Libel out of his Pocket, and could not suffici∣ently

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admire the shamelesnesse of it. One enter∣tainment held about an hour, and ended with the reflection which we made how important and be∣neficial it would be, if the Qualificators deferr'd giving their opinions upon these Propositions till they had througly read the works of that Father, and heard what we had to say to them in the pre∣sence of our adversaries.

In the afternoon we repaired to the Ambassador who was to receive a visite from Cardinal Corra∣do. When it was ended, we went to see Monsig∣nor Borromeo, whom I had often attempted to write unto while I was at Rome alone, but could not. We gave him a full and punctual account of our affair: Which he heard, and thankt us for our information. I sent one of our people to Car∣dinal Roma's Palace to know who were to be pre∣sent in the Assembly of the Consultors which we heard was to be held there: he brought word that there had been no Congregation at all there. Of which, the Curé of S. Saviours comming to see me, told me the reason was, because the Cardinals Spada and Ginetti had got cold. Which was true as to the ordinary Congregation held there every Thursday by those four Cardinals. But there was another reason more considerable that hinder'd the meeting of the Consultors, which I was inform'd of the next day, and shall relate in its order. The same Curé further told me that the Pope had increas'd the number of the Cardinals of the Congregation of the H. Office by adding Cardinal Ghiggi who enter'd into it that day for the first time. And lastly he told me that ac∣cording to my request he had spoken to the F. Pro∣curator of S. Marcel, to incite him to demand to hear us before delivering his opinion upon any of the Propositions, for the reasons above mentio∣ned.

M. the Abbot of Valcroissant and I spent al∣most all Friday morning (March 15.) in confer∣ring amicè with the Commissary of the Office upon the first Proposition. We told him also the same reasons why we conceived it so expedient that the Qualificators hastned not to write and deliver their opinions upon the Propositions before they had taken such light and informations upon the matter as they might hope from a legal Con∣ference wherein we and our adversaries were heard. He answer'd that this was not to be told to him; that he was sufficiently perswaded of it; but it behoved to speak it to the Cardinals who were the Masters.

As I return'd to my lodging I went to see a par∣ticular friend who learnt me three or four consi∣derable things. First, that M. Albizzi had ac∣quainted the Congregation of the H. Office with the visite which we had made to him, and spoke as if he had well humbled us, and taught us how to govern our selves for our own safely. Second∣ly, that he had made complaint there against the book of Victorious Grace, and presented the same to the Congregation to be view'd and con∣demn'd. And thirdly that the General of the Do∣minicans intended that very day to seek for audi∣ence of the Pope after the Sermon, and if he could not obtain it, to return the Sunday following for he same purpose. And that his busnesse was to tell the Pope that hitherto he had not spoken a word in the cause, by reason he did not clearly see what was the thing in question, but at length ha∣ving well examin'd it, he found that it was the same affair that war formerly in agitation under Clement VIII. and Paul V. between his Order and that of the Jesuites; that he would demand of his Holinesse, that they might be heard too before any thing were determin'd on one side or other; that all proceedings might be the same as they were under those two Popes, that the Memoires of the things which were pass'd in that time might be perused, to see what was expedient to be done at this. And fourthly, that the reason which caus'd the deferring the Assembly of the Qualifi∣cators which was to have been held the day pre∣ceding at Cardinal Roma's Palace, was indeed be∣cause the Commissary of the H. Office had signi∣fi'd to the said Cardinal that he was encharg'd with a multitude of processes for the visitation of Priso∣ners which was to be made before Easter, and so his Papers upon the first Proposition were not ready. Which he represented to his Eminence with a de∣sign not onely that by this means the Qualificators might have more leisure to prepare themselves to do well, but also to give his General time to make his supplication to the Pope which I newly menti∣on'd.

A small indisposition of M Brousse hindred us from continuing our Visits together in the after∣noon, and therefore I went to see F. Hilarion, partly to thank him for the favour he lately did us in shewing us his Reliques; partly to acquaint him how we govern'd our selves in our Visit to M. Albizzi, but chiefly to tell him what he did a∣gainst us three days ago out of a bravado in the Congregation of the H. Office, and to beseech him to use what interest he had in M. Albizzi, to hinder him from further persecuting the book of Victorious Grace, because it would make matters worse, and obstruct the restauration of a good in∣telligence. This was a very nice point to be toucht upon at this time, as well on the part of of F. Hi∣larion towards M. Albizzi, as of mine towards F. Hilarion, because it was so to be carri'd that M. Albizzi might not know that F. Hilarion was so clearly inform of it, especially by me; and also that F. Hilarion might not know that I had such as∣sured intelligence of it, for fear they would sus∣pect him from whom I receiv'd it to have violated the fidelity of secrecy. In fine, I fetcht a com∣pass, and took all possible care and caution to a∣void that inconvenience, which I would have shun'd as solicitously ar death it self. The F. did not promise me to speak to M. Albizzi about it, because he had no other occasion to visit him, and to go on purpose was not convenient. On the contrary, he told me, if that book were pro∣pounded in the Congregation of the H. Office in his presence, and he were oblig'd to give his opi∣nion of it, he would sentence it to be condemn'd, because it treated of a prohibited subject. But when I had laid open to him the necessity of set∣ting it fotth, the good effects it had had already, and might further be expected from it, he miti∣gated his first rigor▪ and condescended that the Congregation should take no notice of: and if M. Albizzi and he hapned upon occasion to discourse of this point, he would perswade him as much as

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he could to that gentleness. In reference to the said book, I shall here by the way mention two things that came into my memory. First, that I made these sollicitations in its behalf upon my own head without acquainting my Collegues with M. Albizzi's accusation against it, partly not to disquiet them unnecessarily, and partly in consi∣deration of secrecy which I was to perform to my Intelligencer. Secondly, that understanding from France the last Summer that it was intended to be translated and printed in Latin, in order to be sent and seen at Rome; I disswaded the design, in re∣gard of what was spoken in the Preface to the ad∣vantage of Jansenius: because I fear'd that place alone considering the state of things, would do more hurt to our cause then the rest of the book would do good.) But to return to F. Hilarion, I told him of the difficulty that I war certifi'd there was to answer the Minister of Groning aright, by reason of the decree made against the Catechism of Grace. The Father answer'd me, that it be∣hooved us to observe a general and very sure Rule in those matters, namely, that the Popes would not hitherto pass any judgement upon the Doctrine. That therefore it was no wonder if it were suffer'd in the Anticatechism of Errors and Heresie, with∣out any thing said to it. That as for what was noted, that the Catechism reviv'd the Propositi∣ons condemned by Pius V. it was ground enough for saying so, that there was one found to be such at the first inspection of the book. But it was not expressd in that Decree, whether those condemn'd Propositions which were in the Catechism, were any of those which Pius V. had condem'd as Here∣tical; or temerarious, or as offending Christian ears: which might be so in the time of Pius V. and not so now: but however those Propositions having been once condemn'd, and that condem∣nation neither revers'd nor interpreted, nor the prohibition of teaching and maintaining them re∣mov'd, he was too blame that advanc'd and pub∣lisht them, and there was reason to complain as well of his writing of these matters contrary to the Prohibition', as of his reviving those condem∣ned Propositions. F. Hilarion and I were three full houres in this conference, and it was far in the night before we broke it off.

On Saturday morning the 19th. we did nothing but went to the Ambassador who expected a vi∣site from one of the new Cardinals. And in the afternoon I learnt nothing but that a new Tome of Suarez was lately printed at Lyons touching the matter de Auxiliis, notwithstanding it had been formerly deny'd permission at Rome, and that the Jesuites caus'd it to be sold there. This intelligence was given us that we might complain of it; but we were loth to take new affairs and employments upon our selves without necessity, being scarce able to manage all those in which we were engag'd al∣ready.

On Sunday (the 17th.) in the morning we went to accompany the Ambassador to the Pope's Chap∣pel. From thence we went to Giesu to see the ceremonies which the Jesuites made after the election of their General, which we found plain and modest. We spent almost the whole afternoon at the Ambassador's house in reference to the visite which Cardinal Aldobrandino was to make to him.

On Tuesday we went to see that Cardinal with whom we found Cardinal Trivultio. We waited till this latter was gone, and then were admitted to Cardinal Aldobrandino. We found him suffici∣ently informed of many circumstances of our af∣fair, which we layd open to him at leisure. We spoke much of the famous Congregation held un∣der Clement VIII. of whose family this Cardinal was, and who dying (as he intimated in our dis∣course) as he was upon the point to publish his Bull of condemnation against the Jesuites, his death was by those Fathers imputed to a Mi∣racle.

In the afternoon we visited Cardinal Sachetti, who apprehended our intentions and demands very just, and answer'd us very handsomely and ingenuously. He said, among other things, that the wiles and jugglings which we shew'd him had been recurr'd to in this affair, were no good arms for defending a just cause: and that they who made use of them gave ground to believe that they were diffident of their good right. The same Af∣ternoon we went to Cardinal Maidalcini who was the youngest of the Cardinals, and thence to Monsignor Paolucci who was the ancientest Pre∣late in Rome. M. Brousse declar'd the affair in Ita∣lian to Cardinal Maidalcini, and the Abbot of Valcroissant to M. Paolucci, who answer'd us as one that still well remembred all that he had seen for∣merly transacted under Clement VIII. between the Dominicans and the Jesuites, and who had since that time spent part of his own in the reading of S. Augustin.

There remain'd none of all the sacred Colledg to be visited but Cardinal Cherubin. We went to him on Wednesday (March 20.) and acquainted him, as we had done the rest, what had pass'd, and what we pretended to in this affair. We learnt the same day that a Memorial was presented in the mor∣ning to the Congregation of the H. Office a∣gainst the book of Suarez and those who dispers'd it.

Monsignor Spada Patriarch of Constantinople was the last we visited of the Consultors and Qualifica∣tors of the H. Office; for he had that Title which depress'd him infinitely below the lowest Cardinal: which seem'd very strange to us in the person of a Patriarch of the second See of the Church, and who since the second Oecumenical Council always held the first place after the Pope. We went to him on Thursday the 21. and after he had heard what we said to him, he wonder'd that we seem'd to doubt whether the Congregation and audience of Parties would be granted, in which we plac'd the certain carrying of the Cause, and the indubi∣table triumph of truth against our common adver∣saries. He intimated, with a clear inclination to our good designes, that things were in suspence, that order would be taken about them, and that preparations were making for them. In fine he answer'd us very judiciously, gravely and courte∣ously. And he acknowledg'd (as all other per∣sons who we visited together, and whom I had vi∣sited before when I was alone at Rome, acknowledg∣ed in our common visites, though I have not men∣ion'd it in every occasion, to avoid too frequent repetitions) that I had never addres'd to him but as one sent by some of my LL. the Bps. of France.

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Our visites being ended, and we finding by experience during the whole winter, that the aire of Rome was very unsutable with M. Brousse's health, and conceiving that the heat of the appro∣ching Summer might be more prejudicial to it then the winter, during which he had a continu∣al head-ake, and defluxion in his breast, which constrain'd him to be blooded largely five times, and to drink nothing but Ptisane: He pray'd us to give way that he prepar'd himself to return to his native aire after Easter, assoon as he was able to travel to the place of his ordinary residence. Whereunto we consented according to the condi∣scension of the Bishops who deputed us, to whom in the end of January last, we had signifi'd the case of his indisposition which seised upon him assoon as he came to Rome, and continu'd to molest him ever since. Wherefore he and I went the same evening to advertise the Ambassador of it, and to beseech him to acquainr the Pope therewith the next day at his usual audience; to the end M. Brousse might salute his Holiness and receive his be∣nediction before his departure, which was to be as∣soon as the Festivals and Ceremonies of Easter were over. The Ambassador promis'd to do him this office the next day if he could, or some day of the H. Week.

The next day (Fryday the 22th.) we attended the Ambassador to his ordinary audience. He caus'd M. Brousse to be call'd in, who being intro∣duc'd, and the Ambassador going to speak some thing of him to the Pope by way of recommendati∣on, His Holinesse interrupted him with these fa∣miliar and obliging words, Lo conesco, è mio grand amico, I know him, he is my great friend. M. Brousse made his complement to him in few words, and signifi'd how his health necessitated his return. The Pope wisht him a good journey, and gave him his benediction and indulgences. Besides the Ambas∣sador, the Corrector of the French Minimes was present, having been introduc'd at the same time about another businesse.

In the afternoon I accompanied M. Brousse to Cardinal Barberin to take his leave; as according∣ly he did after a long discourse of sundry things not necessary to be related in this place.

Sunday the 24th. we were at the ceremony of Palmes, and receiv'd some from his Holines's hand.

Monday the 25. the Abbot of S. Peter in vinclis made an Oration upon the sanctity of that season in an assembly of an eminent Academy composed of many Ingenious and Learned persons, where∣of the Gallcane Prince was one of the principal members, if not the chief. The Abbot did us the honour to invite us to his Oration. We repair∣ed thither, and before it began, Cardinal Ron∣danini's brother, and one of Cardinal S. Clement's nephews came to us to entertaine themselves with us, and promote our acquiantance formely contra∣cted, which we mutually promis'd to augment when the Festivals were past.

On Tuesday morning I accompain'd M. Brousse in his visitation of the four Churches. In the mor∣ning we went to those of S. Marie Maggiore, S. John de Lateran and S. Paul; When he went in the afternoon to that of S. Peter, he left me at la Mi∣nerve; where I entertain'd at length F. Capisucci, a Monk of that Order and Professor in Divinity, with what had pass'd in the affair for which we were at Rome. F. du Plantet a Minime, very zealous against the sentiments of S. Augustin which he did not understand, and much devo∣ted to F. Annat and the Court of Cardinal Spada who was protector of the Minimes, had given this Dominican for a full instruction in this affair a Copy of M. de Vabres's letter, at the bottome of which were these words;

Subscripserunt aut suo nomine subscribi voluerunt hi qui sequuntur.
  • Leonorius Destampes Archiepiscopus & Dux Remensis aliquot mensibus ante obitum.
  • De Grignan Archepiscopus Arelatensis.
  • Henricus de Bethune Archiepiscopus Burdiga∣lensis.
  • Annas de Vanladour Archiepiscopus Pisuri∣censis.
  • Henricus a Sabaudiâ nominatus Archiepiscopus Remensis. Sunt alii numero 64. Episcopi.

I met in the City M. Michel Angelo Recci, who told me that F. Pascaligio an able Divine of the same house of S. Andrew de la Val, whereof F. Delbene was, desir'd to come and see us; but seeing that good Father much troubled with the Goute, he took the liberty to tell him that he would advertise us of it, and we should prevent him.

I omitted mention that we spent all Saturday the 23. with Signor Pien Cottuen Notary of the Rota, and Andreas Albercius, and Franciscus Pignocatus, expert Jurates for comparing and ve∣rifying writings, in a most exquisite compar∣ing two Copies which we had caus'd to be made of M. Pegna's history. And we were so exact therein that each of those Copies was as usefull and Authentick as the Original it self.

Our Memorial against F. Annat's book, which we no longer thought of after it was declar'd to us, that neither the Pope nor the H. Office took part in it, had its effect the same day that we com∣pos'd the papers of F. Pegna. M. Albizzi sent to the Printer by the Pope's Order, to command him to bring to the Palace of the H. Office (where M. Albizzi lodg'd, where also are the Prisons call'd the Inquisition) all the copies of sheets that he had printed of that work, with prohibition to di∣stribute any to any person. The Letter was in these words. Signor Ignatio de' Lazaris Stampatore in Roma; In virtù della presente doverà Ʋ. S. recare al S. Offitio è consignare à me infrascritto tutti gli essempi dell' Opera che con licenza della sacra Congre∣gatione del santo Offitio ha fatto Stampatore il Padre Anato della compagnia di Giesù, senza darne ad al∣tri alcun essemplare sotto pena arbitraria alla medesi∣ma Congregatione. Perche così ha ordinato è comman∣dato la sanctità di nostro signore per ordine dato mi à bocca. Dato nel Palazzo del S. Offitio questo di 28. di Marzo 1652. Signed Fran. dalli Albizzi.

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The Prer let passe H. Fryday without o∣beying this Order; but on Saturday he carried M. Albizzi all that he had printed of that book, and took his Receipt. The same day five Jewes and one Turk were baptis'd at S. John de Lateran. The Marquis of Bréauté was Godfather to one of those Jewes, and I to another, to whom I gave the nme of Paul.

M. Hostier Bishop of Béthleem arriv'd on H. Tuesday at Rome, whether he was sent from the Assembly of the Clergy of France, to obtain of the Pope that he would fill the vacant Sees of the Church of Portugal, with those persons which the King of Portugl had nominated.

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