The journal of Monsr. de Saint Amour doctor of Sorbonne,: containing a full account of all the transactions both in France and at Rome, concerning the five famous propositions controverted between the Jansenists and the Molinists, from the beginning of that affair till the Popes decision. / Faithfully rendred out of French. ; A like display of the Romish state, court, interests, policies, &c. and the mighty influences of the Jesuites in that church, and many other Christian states, being not hitherto extant.

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The journal of Monsr. de Saint Amour doctor of Sorbonne,: containing a full account of all the transactions both in France and at Rome, concerning the five famous propositions controverted between the Jansenists and the Molinists, from the beginning of that affair till the Popes decision. / Faithfully rendred out of French. ; A like display of the Romish state, court, interests, policies, &c. and the mighty influences of the Jesuites in that church, and many other Christian states, being not hitherto extant.
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Saint-Amour, Louis-Gorin de, 1619-1687.
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London :: Printed by T. Ratcliff, for George Thomason, at the Rose and Crown in S. Paul's Church-yard,
1664.
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Jansenists.
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Jesuits -- Controversial literature.
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"The journal of Monsr. de Saint Amour doctor of Sorbonne,: containing a full account of all the transactions both in France and at Rome, concerning the five famous propositions controverted between the Jansenists and the Molinists, from the beginning of that affair till the Popes decision. / Faithfully rendred out of French. ; A like display of the Romish state, court, interests, policies, &c. and the mighty influences of the Jesuites in that church, and many other Christian states, being not hitherto extant." In the digital collection Early English Books Online 2. https://name.umdl.umich.edu/A93040.0001.001. University of Michigan Library Digital Collections. Accessed June 6, 2024.

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A SECOND ADDITION Made to this Journal on S. Martins day, 1662.

THe Relation given to the Assembly of the Clergy anno 1655. by the Bishop of Lo∣deve, (now of Montpellier) of what Pope Innocent X. told him was done at Rome, in the affair of the five Propositions, deduces things with so little clearnesse and exactnesse, as to order and time, that when it came to my view first about a year ago, I thought it might serve in some sort to prove the substance of what is related in my Journal, and in requital my Journal might make it better understood. And this Relation having been so well approv'd by the Assembly that they desir'd the said Bishop to give it them in writing to the end it might be inserted in the Verbal Processe which they caus'd to be printed, I presume all those who have read that alone, will be more satisfi'd with it by reading it after this Jour∣nal.

An Extract of the said Verbal Processe: Fryday 14. March 1656. The Archbishop of Narbonne being President.

THe ancient Agents continu'd their report, and speaking of spiritual affaires, related all that had pass'd in the reception of the Constitution of our H. F. Pope Innocent X. touching the five Propositions condemn'd by his Holinesse; as also what order they had receiv'd from my L. L. the Prelates extraordinarily assembled to this purpose, to write to the Bishop of Lodeve (then at Rome) concerning it.

Whereupon the said M. de Lodeve said, That whilst he was at Rome, he was commanded by the Assembly of Prelates held at Paris to present to the deceased Pope Innocent X. the letters which they writ to his Holinesse about the publication of his Bull; which oblig'd him to represent to the As∣sembly what pass'd at Rome concerning this mat∣ter during his being there; and that if the Assem∣bly thought good, he would begin with the things which preceded the sending of that letter. The Assembly having approv'd this proposal, the said M. de Lodeve proceeded and reported, That in the first audience which he had of Pope Innocent X. of happy memory, 2. Jan. 1654. his Holinesse did him the honour to tell him, that he was oblig'd to the Bishops of France, and had them written in his heart, for having been the first in acknowledging the authority of the H. See in the affair of the Jansenists; That these were his Holinesses very words; and that what he was about to speak fur∣ther, was very near the same language which he us'd to him, he having put it into writing at the end of his audience.

That his Holinesse further told him, That the Question of the five Propositions being presented to the Bishops of France, they refus'd to take cog∣nisance of it, and said to the Presenters, Go to the Pope, to whom it belongs to decide causes of Faith. That many Bishops had written to him; That Doctors of either side came to Rome; That his Ho∣linesse having ask'd Doctor Hallier whether he had any thing to say? he answer'd that he came to Rome only to understand his Holinesses sentiments, and to know the truth from his own mouth, touching the Five Propositions; and he would re∣spectfully and submissively receive what he should decide, as an Oracle of Faith. That the other Doctors demanded a Hearing and liberty to an∣swer to what the adverse party would alledge. At which word party, his Holinesse told them there was no party in this affair, and that the inquiry was onely to finde the truth. That then one of these Doctors made a discourse full of Invectives against the Jesuites, which his Holinesse heard with pati∣ence and charity, though it was nothing to the mat∣ter in question. That after this speech, another made a long Predication, which he could not fi∣nish, because night superven'd, and he read in a Paper; but he said that all which they had to of∣fer was contain'd in eight quires of paper which he presented to his Holinesse, and desir'd permission to print; to the end their adversaries might answer thereunto in print, and themselves aftewards re∣ply. That his Holinesse receiv'd these papers, and put them with all other Acts relating to this af∣fair into the hands of some Cardinals, of whom he nam'd Pamphilio and Chisi. In the mean time his Holinesse made prayers to God to be illumina∣ted with his H. Spirit, and appointed prayers to be made in the City of Rome especially, by such per∣sons as he knew to be of great piety. And having afterwards Assembled a Congregation of divers Cardinals, Prelates, Doctors and learned Priests, he heard them many several times discourse and give their opinions upon the matter. That God gave him the will and strength to be present at all the sittings with great patience, without weariness or trouble. That himself, who before being Pope, had addicted himself to the Law, to the judgement of Processes, and to the management of publick affaires, yet affirm'd in truth and sin∣cerity,

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that he receiv'd from God so great an open∣ing of mind, that aperuit sensum scripturarum, that he understood all the subtleties and difficul∣ties even to the most intricate Schoole-termes; and he receiv'd so great pleasure in these Congregati∣ons, that when night approacht he was sorry he could not attend them longer. The Cardinals of∣tentimes told him that he took too much paines, and that this over great assiduity would do his Ho∣linesse hurt; and he answer'd that it was no trouble to him, but he pitied the good old Doctors who were standing all the time.

That in fine, having throughly examin'd and recommended this affair divers times to God, he one day call'd Cardinal Chisi (then secretary to his Holinesse, and now Alexander VII. happily sit∣ting in S. Peter's chaire) and having bidden him take paper and write, he dictated his Constitution to him in the same words wherein it was publish'd. That the matters were so present and clear in his mind, that it was no trouble to him to dictate it, and that he could repeat it word for word, (as accordingly his Holinesse did part of it) His Holi∣nesse also assur'd him that the matter was transacted in this manner, and that he had added nothing since to his Constitution but the last Clause, which saith that his Holinesse intends not by this condemnati∣on to approve the other opinions contained in the book of Jansenius. That the Pope had publish'd this Constitution, and caus'd all that had been done in this affair to be compil'd into one Volume, in the front whereof are plac'd The Letters of the Bishops of France, to serve for a testimony to Po∣sterity of their respect towards the H. See. That he had caus'd this Volume to be deposited in the Ar∣chives of S. Peter, after he had made an Act of Declaration in a Consistory held for that purpose. That he had sent his Bull to the King of France, and to other Princes and Bishops. That those of France had receiv'd it with honour, as also those of other Kingdomes by their example. That even the Bishops of Malines and Grant, who shew'd some tergiversation at the beginning, having understood its reception by the French Bishops, receiv'd and subscrib'd it. That this was an obliga∣tion which his Holinesse had to the Bishops of France, and should preserve as long as he liv'd. That he charg'd him, the Relator, to acquaint them therewith at his return. Which injunction he, the Relator, now discharges, by most punctually relating to this illustrious Assembly the discourse which his Holinesse held to him in this first Audi∣ence — The Assembly gave the Bishop of Lodeve thanks, and was so satisfied with his Rela∣tion that they desir'd him to put it into writing, to the end it might be inserted in the present Verbal Processe. Which was done accordingly, as is above mention'd.

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