Masse: for if it cannot bee proved that he is there corporally present, as Roffenfis confesseth, and you be are him out in it: it cannot bee proved that hee is corporally offered, restat ita{que} ut missas, missas faciatis;Roff. cont. Luth captiv. Bab. c. 4 ne{que} ullum positū hic ver∣bum est, quo probetur in no∣strâ missâ ve∣ram fi lci car∣nis, & sangui∣nis Christi prae∣sentiam: non potestigitur per ullam scriptu∣ram probari. it remaineth therefore that you dismisse your misses, or Masses. For what can they availe the living, or the dead, if nothing but meere accidents and shewes of Bread and Wine bee offered, which are meere nothing. Wee may yet gather farther upon Roffensis his words, if it cannot bee proved by any Scripture, that Christs body and bloud are present in the Roman masse: it cannot bee proved that they are present in any Masse, unlesse it bee granted that the Roman masses are of a worser condition then others: if not in any masse, much lesse must Papists say in any Sacrament without the Masse. What then be∣commeth of the maine and most reall article of the Trent faith, which hath cost the reall effusion of so much Christian bloud, I meane the reall and carnall presence of Christ in the Sacrament. To Roffenfis I.R. should have added Cajetan, and so hee might have had a parreiall of Cardinalls, for the Knight alledged him, and his words are most expresse, not only against the proofe of Transubstantiation,Caje. in 3. p. Tho. g. 75. dico autem ab ecclesiâcum non appareat ex E∣vangelio coa∣ctivum ali∣uod ad intel∣lg dum haec verba propriè quod evangeli∣um non expli∣cavit expressè ab ecclesia ac∣cepimus, viz. conversionem panis in corpus. but also of the corporall pre∣sence of Christ (as out of the words hoc est corpus meum.) The Cardinalls words are, that which the Gospell hath not expressed wee have received from the Church, to wit, the conversion of the bread into the body of Christ, I say from the Church, be∣cause 0