he confessed but an Estate for Life, and yet this was no forfeiture.
Curia
None of us do rememember any such case here.
Walmisley
Surely the case is so, and I can shew you the names of the parties.
Anderson
I will not believe you before my self, and I am sure that I
never heard of any such case.
Peryam
If any such case had been here
we would have made a doubt therof, for ther are Authorities against
it, as in 8 Eliz. & 6. R. 2. Plesingtons case.
Shuttleworth
Allso theyhave said that the fresh force was brought infra quarentenam, silicit qua∣draginta septimanas, and the quarentena is but 40 dayes.
Curia
That is no matter, for the silicet is but surplusage, and so no cause of Error.
Shuttleworth
If a man disseise another without force, he shall
not be taken and imprisoned, and therefore for this cause the Judge∣ment
is erroneous, and allso the costs encreased are trebled, and
therefore erroneous, and cited 22. Hen. 6. 57.
Anderson
In an Acti∣on of Trespass, If the Defendant pray aid of a stranger, this is a for∣feiture, and if it be counterpleaded, yet it is a forfeiture, then shall
the deniall thereof make any change in the case? surely no, in my o∣pion. And I say that Acts which come from himself are forfeitures,
but Collaterall Acts, as in the case of Wast are not.
Walmisley
In 22
Ed. 3. 13. the Tenant said that the Grantor hath released unto him,
the Judgement shall be but that he shall Attourn. And allso he cited
3 Ed. 3. & 33 Ed. 3. & 18 Ed. 3. & 36 Hen. 6. & 34 Hen. 6. fol 24. to
prove that it shall not be a forfeiture before triall.
Anderson
If one who hath no Reversion, bring a quid juris clamat against Tenant for life, this is a forfeiture of his Estate, and as you have said, if in VVast
the Tenant plead the Feoffment of the Plaintif, or non dimisit, true it
is that these are no forfeitures, for you know well enough that a
Feoffment is no Plea, and then it is void, and to say non dimisit is no
forfeiture.
Peryam
The Judgement given in Plesingtons case is not
well given, for it ought to have been, quod pro seisina sequatur si volunt. as in the case of Saunders against Freeman, and he cited 10 Edw. 3. fol. 32. to that intent.
Wyndam
The doubt which I conceive is for that
he pleads a custom in London for the inrollment of Deeds indented,
and he sheweth that his bargain was by parol, and therefore void,
and then no forfeiture, as if in Trespass a man prays ayd, as by the
Lease of I. S. and in the conclusion prayes aid of I. N. this is void.
Anderson
Allthough that it be so, yet the pleading is, that he bar∣gained
the Reversion, and then this is good by parol in London,
therefore there is no doubt in that point.
Walmisley
The Books in 15 Ed. 2. & 25 Ed. 3. Import•• that Judgement ought to be given be∣fore any forfeiture can be.
Curia
Without doubt he may take ad∣vantage
thereof before Judgement, as well as after, if the plea be en∣tred
upon record.
Wyndam
For the point of capiantur, the Book is
in 2. lib. Ass. Pl. 8. Br. imprison. 30. & in 9. lib. Ass. & 12. lib. Ass. Pl.