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A Dialogue / betweene the Father {reversed ;}or Oldest-elder; of the Famelye of Loue / and his obedient Sonne {reversed ;}or Disciple; in the godlie Wisdom. Wherin ther are many speciall Questions / by the Sonne / and many groundlie Resolutions and Instructions / by the Father / contay∣ned and declared.
SEeinge now that I haue hearde many good Documentes {reversed ;}that do demon∣strate to the true Life and Godlines; [ A] of my Father / and that I am also year younge and vnexpert / in the spirituall and holy Vnderstandinge / So is it in like-maner / right / orderlie / and expedient or meete / that Ia 1.1 submit myself vnder my Fathers Doctrine / liue according to his Counsaile / take-heede to his Instruction / and order and applie mee ther∣after / To thende that I ouershoote not myself / in my young-alge / nor becōb 1.2 deceaued by my younge Vn∣derstandinge nor-yet seduced by anyc 1.3 Self-wise∣dom / d 1.4 Goodthinking / or Imagination of the Know∣ledge.
2. For-that-cause {reversed ;}O my Father in the Loue; I submiet my-self (and whollie geeue-ouer myself and all myne Vnderstanding) vnder the Wisdom of thy Doctrine: and desire to demaund of thee / my Father / also to heare / and to answere thee: and to lyue and walke obedientlie / accordinge to all thye 1.5 Counsell / in the Nowse of Loue.
3. O My Sonne {reversed ;}my Beloued in the Loue; standeth thine Heartf 1.6 inclyned to the Wisdom / and is thy Lust bent / to the holye Vnder∣stading / for to lyue and walke vprightlie in the Howse of Loue: then speake-on {reversed ;} my Sonne; / and demaund all that wherin thou desirest to be instructed: And ther shall good Instruction be geeuen thee therof / accord∣ing to the godlie Wisdom / and the Declaration of all that wherof thou demaundest mee / shall {reversed ;}out of the Wisdom; becom opened vnto thee.
4. FIrst-of-all {reversed ;}my Father; my Demaund is to thee: Whether it be permitted / and requi∣site ether beseeming / for Mee {reversed ;}and all Disciples and Littleons of Vnderstanding; / to demaund the Eld∣est in the holye Vnderstandinge {reversed ;}or the Father of the Famelye of Loue; of all Thinges / for to knowe the difference therof / and to require of hym / to be instruc∣ted and resolued in the same: For many suppose / that to knowe the Difference of all thinges / is the right Knowledg of the Wisdom?
5. [ B] OF that {reversed ;}my Sonne; wherof thou demaund∣est mee / I will {reversed ;}out of the Wisedomg 1.7 of the Mosthighest; geeue thee good Instruction. and de∣clare vnto thee {reversed ;}accordinge to the Trueth; the right Difference / out of what maner of minde and Intent / that it is permitted the Disciples and Littleons of Vnderstanding / and also very meete or requisite for them / to demaund for the Resolution and Instructi∣on in the Wisdom: and in what maner-of-wise / they ought to submitt and behaue them / towardes the Eld∣est in the Loue / of whom they require the holye Vn∣derstandinge / for to becom rightlie taught and ••••∣structed / in the godlyeh 1.8 Wisdom.
6. BErelye / to knowe the Difference of all Thinges / is no righti 1.9 Knowledg of the godlye Wisdom: but the Loue {reversed ;}with her vericous Nature and Beeinge; is the vpright Wisdom of the godlie Knowledge:
7. And whosoeuer is taught to the same / or hath in∣herited the same / in her Seruice {reversed ;}as that Shee be plan∣ted in hym withk 1.10 Meekmyndednes; / Hee hath the right Knowledg of the true Wisdom / and the most∣holie Vnderstandinge: and is a Fellowe-elder and Father in the Howse of Loue / which bringeth-fourth {reversed ;}out of the Treasurel 1.11 of his Heart; the vpright In∣struction of the Wisedom.
8. Seeing then that thou demaundest of mee / whe∣ther it be permitted the Disciples / to demaunde the Eldest in the godlye Wisdom / of all Thinges / for to knowe the Differēce therof / and to require Instructiō therin / of hym / So geeue-eare then and vnderstand / how they all which are year younge in the holye Vn∣derstanding / and desire to demaund the Eldest in the godly Wisdom / for to be instructed and resolued in all thinges / ought to stand-minded: and in what-ma∣ner of wise also / that they {reversed ;} with their Heartes; ought to submitt them to the Eldest.
9. [ C] First / it behoueth or ther is required / that the Dis∣ciples and all Littleons of Vnderstanding / together with all Goodwillingōs to the Righteousnes {reversed ;} which desire to becom taught / trayned / and exercised / by the Eldest in the Famelye of Loue / in the godlye Wise∣dom and holye Vnderstandinge; should geeue-ouer themselues to be obedientm 1.12 Disciples of the gratious Woorde and his Seruice of Loue / and that theyn 1.13 turne them away eauē so {reversed ;}according to the Requiring of the gratious Woord and his Seruice; from al theiro 1.14 Selfwisdom and Knowledg / that riseth vpp or becō∣eth imagined in them: also take nothing in-hand them selues / out of their owne Counsell: nor-yet stand-per∣swaded / that they thē selues {reversed ;}before their newp 1.15 Birth out
of the Doctrine and Spirit of the gratious Woord; knoweq 1.16 anye-thing / nether-yet can {reversed ;}accordinge to the Trueth;r 1.17 iudg rightlie: but that they {reversed ;}with all their Heart; geeue-ouer themselues and all their Vnder∣standinge {reversed ;}singlemindedlie; in the Wisedom and Counsell of the Eldest / for to heare the right Sentēce•• of Hym / and to becom taught eauen so {reversed ;}out of the Counsell of God;s 1.18 in the godlie Wisedom.
10. Secondlie / it behoueth / that all their Minder Will / and Meaning stand minded / to demaund-af∣ter / noryet iust to heare / any other thing (for to knowe the same) but onlye this / namelie / Which are the vp∣right Wayes of the Lordet 1.19 / how they should enter in∣to thosesame and walke in them / and eauen so {reversed ;}in the good-pleasure or Delight of the Mosthighest; haue their Fourth-going therin / for tov 1.20 growe-vpp in the vpright Vertues of God / and in the souelie Beeinge of the Loue / To thend that they mought eauen so {reversed ;}growing vpp in the Oldnes of the godlie Wisedom and holie Vnderstandinge; become perfect Men / in thex 1.21 Olde-aige of the Man Christ / also Elders and Fathers of the holie Vnderstandinge administer the holiey 1.22 Woord of Life / in the Famelie of the Loue and eauen so lyue and walke in the vprightz 1.23 Righte∣ousnes and Holynes: And not / for to carye the Re∣solution and Instruction {reversed ;}as in maner of a Know∣ledge; in their Memorie or Vnderstandinge.
11. Thirdlie / they ought to beware / that they distrusta 1.24 not the Eldest in the Famelie of Loue / nor suspect any-maner of euell or vnwisedom by hym: nor-yet also in anywise perswade themselues / that the Exerci∣ses / Documētes and Instructions / which are taught or setfourth before them / by the Father of the Famelye
of Loue / or Oldest-elder / are tob 1.25 flight / to chyldish / or to vnwise / for them to followe-after or to obey. But 〈◊〉〈◊〉 with perfect Heartes;c 1.26 humblelie andd 1.27 single-min∣dedlye {reversed ;}eauen as good willingee 1.28 Children vnto the Obedience; to receaue the same Instructions / pro∣ceedinge out of the Wisdom and Counsell of the Eld∣est: and to stand eauen so submitted alwayes {reversed ;}till vnto the manlief 1.29 Oldnes in the Loue; vnto the holie Woord and the Exercises or Orders of his Seruice of Loue / singlemindedlie andg 1.30 obedientlie / as Those that haue a Lust / to doo the Lordes Will.
12. Fourthlie / it is expedient / that they shouldh 1.31 make manifest their whole Heart / with all their Counsailes / Mindes / Willes / and Thoughtes / together with all their Dooinges / Dealinges / and Exercises / naked and bare / before the Eldest in the Famelye of Loue: and not coueri 1.32 or hyde any-thing (be it what it is) be∣fore Him. also all wherunto their Inclination / ••yude / and Nature draweth them / and all wherwith they becom tempted or assaulted in their Heartes / To thend that they mought heare good Instruction and an vp∣right Difference of all thinges / wherin they erre or go-amisse and vnderstand the cleere Resolution ther∣of / for that they mought order or indeuour them ac∣cordinglie. and growe-vpp eauen so in the holyek 1.33 Vnderstandinge {reversed ;}to alll 1.34 Concordablenes / with the Famelye of Loue; / and in all Godlynes of the vp∣right Life.
13. BEholde and marke this well / my Sonnes In such a State / Minde / and Will / it doth very-well beseeme the Disciples / and all Little∣ons of Vnderstandinge / together with all Goodwiss∣ingons to the Righteousnes / to demaund and heare
the Eldest ؛the Father of the Famelie of Loue{punctel} and to require the good Declaration of the Trueth / of Hym / for to becom eauen so infourmed and taught / vprightlie and accordinge to the Trueth / in the godlie Wisedom.
14. [ D] I Perceaue and note well {reversed ;}my Father; that thou hast witnessed vnto mee at-full / the cleere Resolution or Declaration {reversed ;}of that wherof 〈◊〉〈◊〉 haue demaunded thee; accordinge to the Trueth and figured fourth before mee / the right Style or Ground of the vpright Disciples and Littleons of vnderstan∣dinge / that desire to becom instructed in the godly Wisdome and holye Vnderstandinge.
15. But {reversed ;}alas; ther are Fewe / that will {reversed ;}in such-•••••••• wholly geeue-ouer themselues / or that will {reversed ;}after su•••• a-maner; learne the holie Vnderstandinge / and 〈◊〉〈◊〉 ••odlie Wisedom / in the Seruice of the Loue.
16. THerfore shal-ther also Fewe becom* 1.35 〈◊〉〈◊〉 For Manye are called: but Fewe cleered.
17. What is then the Falle (instruct mee 〈◊〉〈◊〉 Father) that they all {reversed ;}one-with-ano∣ther; do not whollye geeue-ouer themselues / to such vpright and louelie Beeinge / like as thou {reversed ;}through 〈◊〉〈◊〉
••••lye Spirit of Loue; dost presentlie {reversed ;}in the Seruice of Loue; setfourth and teach the same vnto vs. name∣••all Those that haue heard thy Testimonies / or before whom They are held fourth and administred.
18. THe Fayle or Fault {reversed ;}verelie; is This: [ E] Because ther are Manye / which will / themselues {reversed ;}out of themselues;n 1.36 bee / and also knowe Som-what / and geeue not God theo 1.37 Honour / that 〈◊〉〈◊〉 mought haue the Foregoinge in his gratious Woorde and Seruice of the Loue: and beare∣••••uye towardes the Eldest in the godlie Wisedom (whom God hath illuminated with his Light / for to illuminate or geeue-light to them that dwell year inp 1.38 Darknes vpon the Earth). or vouchsafe-not ••••em / the gratious Woorkes of God {reversed ;} which God is workinge by hym; / nor allowe hym therin: nether∣••et laude or thanke the lyuinge God in all hys Woorkes / which hee is shewinge and extending on his cleeced Holyons.
19. For these occasions sake / they bide all {reversed ;}whilst that they humble not themselues vnder thissame loue ••••and vpright Seruice of the Loue; suared / vexed / and burdened / with their owne Knowledge and selfq 1.39 Elected-wisedom or Goodthinkinge. To the which also / they {reversed ;}with their Will and Pleasure; are cap∣••••ued / and bound / or maried: seekinge all That / which according to their Knowledge; is wel-pleasinge vn∣to them. and not / to be obedient to the Woorde not Woorke of the Lorde / nor to the Requiringe of him Seruice of Loue.
20. [ F] OH {reversed ;}beloued Father; is ther no Remedie or Counsell heerto / that all thoser 1.40 estranch Heartes / mought becom releassed or vnbound / from all their Ignoraunce / Good-thinkinge / and Self-wisdom / wherwith they are so bound / also burdened and greeued / and so becom saued?
21. YEa / and No: ther-is Remedie / and no Re∣medye ther-to.
22. HOw shall I vnderstande that {reversed ;}my Father that thou sayest / Yea / and No: Ther-to Remedye / and also no Remedie ther-to?
Eccli. 4. a 6. c
Luk. 15. b
Rom. 12. b
Ier. 7. c
Pro. 1. a
Pro. 2. a 4. a
Eccli. 24. b
Sap. 7. c Iam. 3. b
1. Cor. 8. a
Iam. 1. c
Mat. 13. f
Iam. 1. b
Reb. 12. a 1. Pet. 2. a
1. Cor. 3. c
Iohn. 3. a
Gal. 6. a
1. Cor. 8. a
Mat. ••. •• 1. Cor. 2. b
Eccli. 2. a 3.5.
Ephe. 1. a Col. 1. b 2 Pet. 2. a
Ephe. 4. b
1. Cor. 4. a 1. Iohn. 1. a
Ephe. 1.2.4.
Deu. 17. b 13 a
1. Cor. 1. b ••. ••
Eccli. 7. b
Sap. 1. a Mat. 10. b
1. Pet. 1. b
Ephe. 4. b
1. Reg. 5. b
Pro. 2••. b Ecch. 4. c 17. b Iam. 5. b
Esa. 29. b 4. Esd. 16. b
Col. 1. b
Ephe. 4. b
Mat. 20. b Matc. 10. d Lak. 13. o
Esa. 14. b Gal. 6. a
Esa. 42. a 48.
Isa. 42. a
Rom. 12. b Col. 2. a
3. Reg. 22. c