True Catholic and apostolic faith maintain'd in the Church of England by Andrew Sall ... ; being a reply to several books published under the names of J.E., N.N. and J.S. against his declaration for the Church of England, and against the motives for his separation from the Roman Church, declared in a printed sermon which he preached in Dublin.
Sall, Andrew, 1612-1682.
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CHAP. XVI. How falsly Mr. I. S. affirms that the Irish did not suffer by the Popes prohibiting to subscribe to the Remonstrance of Fidelity proposed to them.

I Bemoaned the misery of the Irish, prohibited severely by the Pope, to subscribe a Remon∣strance of Fidelity proposed to them, where∣in they were to disclaim the Popes power of de∣posing Kings, tho they should suffer never so many penalties and suspicions for it. This Mr. I. S. calls a Fiction with his Ordinary confidence, not regarding to be openly convicted of un∣truth. Whether the Irish did not undergo sus∣picions and disfavors for refusing to subscribe to the said Remonstrance, let themselves tell. Whether such as subscribed were not persecu∣ted by the Pope and his Emissaries, with censures and manifold vexations, let two copious Vo∣lumes published upon the subject declare, the one in Latin by Richard Caron, the other in English by Peter Walsh, largely relating, and learnedly refuting the unjust procedure of the Pope and his Emissaries upon this subject. I re∣ceived my self from Cardinal Rospigliosi, then In∣ternuncius in Brussels, a Copy of Cardinal Francis Barberini his Letter to him, intimating the Popes will and command, that the Irish should not sub∣scribe to the said Remonstrance, and the censure of the Theological Faculty of Lovain, declaring Page  101the said Remonstrance to be repugnant to the truth of Catholic Religion; and therefore unlawful and abominable, such as no man may subscribe to without Sacriledg. And being question'd what part of the Remonstrance merited so grave a Censure, they answered, it was *the denial of a power in the Pope, of making war by himself, or by others, a∣gainst our King, for usurping the Primacy due to the Pope, and retaining unjustly the Lands of the Bri∣tish Church. In which case, say they, it may not be lawful for Catholics to oppose the Pope making war, or favor the King usurping the Popes rights. Thus the warlike Theologians of Flanders do beat to arms, and denounce war against opposers of their Church, which according to the rules of Maho∣met must be defended with the sword, when words will not do. And must not all this admi∣nister an occasion of Jealousie to our King? All will not make Mr. I.S. beleive, that the practices of the Pope and his Emissaries herein did occa∣sion any sufferings to the Irish.

Its remarkable what the foresaid Author re∣lates, that Cardinal Francis Barbarini being que∣stioned by one of his acquaintance, why the En∣glish and Irish Papists may not disclaim that do∣ctrine of King deposing power in the Pope, as the French do; he answered, it is not the fashion with the French to consult them of Rome in such cases. But the Irish and English consulting them, were to expect they would resolve in Rome what was more agreeable to their pretended right. I Page  102like of the Cardinals noble dealing in delivering the truth of the matter; but whether it be a no∣ble proceeding of them in Rome, to aggravate the miseries of the English and Irish suffering for their sake, let Ovid tell,

At Lupus & turpes instant morientibus Ʋrsae,
Et quaecunque minor nobilitate fer a est.
That it is for Bears and Wolves, and such like ignoble Brutes, to insult over those that are down, and kill the dying. It behooves men to be stiff with the Pope: for if they stoop, he'l throw them quite down.