He said, moreover, to the Legate, That being so far off from the King, and in such an Employ as he was, he ought neither to advise him to restore, or not to restore Pignerol; but on the contrary, would wait His Majesty's Orders. But never∣theless, if all other Matters concurr'd to accomplish it, he doubted not, but that Her Highness, the Dutchess, might easily obtain the said Restitution, by means of the Queen her Mo∣ther, and that thereupon, he should have Permission to ac∣quaint His Holiness from His Majesty of the same.
The said Sieur Cardinal, has divers times represented to those that were to Treat, That his Master desir'd Pignerol, only to secure the Treaty that was to be made; so that the only way to incline him to surrender, were, to satisfie him about the same. For this purpose, he has always desir'd, on the King's account, the Princes of Italy, to enter into a League, for the defence of the Duke of Mantua, in case he should be attack'd again. Which has been all along refus'd, unless, that at last, they seem'd a little inclin'd to hear him.
He has likewise requir'd the Mediation of the Pope, and College of Cardinals, which was also deny'd, unless, that in conclusion, the Legate told him, That if he had insisted only upon that, the Peace of Italy had not been so long deferr'd. Then Father Valerien, a Capuchin Fryer, who came from Germany, on purpose to facilitate the Peace, propos'd, That the Emperor would oblige the Catholick League, and the Colledge of Electors, to the Defence of the D. of Mantua, if he should be attack'd. But the Sieur Cardinal, desir'd him to know from Coalta, and Spinola, if they had any such Orders.
After which Answer, the said Father freely confess'd, That this Proposition, was only his thoughts, without any relation to the Emperor, or his Ministers.
The said Capuchin made another Overture, which was, That seeing we desir'd Pignerol, only for Security of the Peace, if we had no other design, we might easily consent to restore it, at the end of two years; during which, the Emperor should keep the Passes of the Grisons. The Sieur Cardinal told him, he believ'd, the King would consent to this Propo∣sition, with which he would acquaint his Majesty, assoon as they were agreed about it. Whereupon the Capuchin im∣mediately went to 'em, but soon return'd, and reported, That they would not consent to it by any means.
As to the Fifth Point, The Marquess Spinola said, he had no Authority to make good any Infringements of the Treaty of Monzon.