Truth prevailing against the fiercest opposition, or, An answer to Mr. Iohn Goodwins Water-dipping no firm footing for church communion wherein the invalidity of his twenty three considerations against withdrawing from those societies that want baptisme by the bodies burial in water is manifested, and the separation from such societies justified by the word of God : together with the discovery of his great mistakes in the exposition of eight chief Scriptures, wherewith he fighteth to overthrow Mr. Allens answer to his forty queries about church communion / by Thomas Lambe.

Your fifteenth Consideration follow∣eth. THat Baptisme how duly soever admini∣stred, is no Church-maker, and that it doth not commend us to God or Men more than other Ordinances.

To which I answer: Mr. Goodwin hath put his Considerati∣ons into many parts, so that they go for twenty three, as if he had abundance of reason on his side in this matter, wherein he argueth against us, whereas many of them run into one, and for substance are the same, so that a particular answer to every one must needs cause abundance of repetition, and going over and over the same thing. That Baptisme of it self is a Church-maker, I am as farre from thinking so as you are; no, men must repent from dead works and beleive to∣wards God, or else no fit matter for the Church, though baptised, but that there can be any orderly joyn'd Church without Baptisme, though men doe repent and beleive, is that I argue against, and have given a large account in my Answer to your third Consideration and twelfth; and as

for the other part of it, that it doth not commend us to God nor men more than other duties, in my Answer to your eleventh Consideration, you have a full answer to this plea also.