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CCXXXVI. Venable's Case. Mich. 29 Eliz. In the Kings Bench.
THe Case was;* 1.1 A Lease was made to A. and B. for their lives, the remainder to Tho. Venables in tail; who 3 Eliz. was attainted of Felony: 23 Eliz. there was a General Pardon. Tho. Venables, 24 Eliz. levied a Fine, and suffered a Recovery to the use of Harris, Serjeant: Office is found, Harris traversed the Office; and thereupon was a Demurrer: It was argued by Leake, That Traverse did not lie in this Case; 4 H. 7. 7 Where the King is entituled by double matter of Record, the party shall not be admitted to his Traverse, nor to his Monstrans de Droit, but is put to his Petition. Which see, 3 E. 4. 23. in the Case of the Earl of Northumberland; Where Tenant of the King is At∣tainted of Treason, and the same is found by Office. See also 11 H. 4. in the Case of the Duke of Norfolk; And the same is not helped by the Statute of 2 E. 6. Cap. 8. for the words are, Untruly found by Office, but here the Office is true: By this Attainder, Tho. Venables is utterly disabled to do any Act; For by Bracton, a Person attainted forisfacit Patriam, Regnum, & Haere∣ditatem suam, 13 E. 4. One was attainted of Felony: And before Office found, the King granted over his Lands. Also he is not helped by the General Pardon; For before the General Pardon, he had a special Pardon; therefore the General Pardon nihil ope∣ratur as to him: But by the Iustices, the forfeiture doth remain until the General Pardon.
Harris, to the contrary. And he put the Case of Sir James Ormond, 4 H. 7. 7. Where the King is entituled by matter of Record, and the subject confesseth the title of the King, and avoids it by as high matter as that is for the King, Traverse in that case lieth: and if the King be entituled by double matter of Record, if the party avoids one of the said Records by another Record, he shall be admitted to his Traverse; And so here we have the Par∣don which is a Record, and that shall avoid the Record for the King: And here the Pardon hath purged the forfeiture in respect of the Offence. And he said, That Tenant in tail being attaint∣ed of Felony, shall not lose his Lands, but the profits only, for he hath his Interest by the Will of the Donor, and it is a Confidence reposed in him; and as Walsingham's Case is he cannot grant over his Estate. And see, in Wroth's Case, Annuity granted pro Con∣silio impendendo, cannot be granted over, or forfeited, for there is a Confidence. See Empson's Case, Dyer, 2. and, 29 Ass. 60. If the Issue in tail be Outlawed of Felony in the life of his Father, and gets his Pardon in the life of his Father, after the death of his Father he may enter. But by Thorp, If the Issue in tail gets his Pardon after the death of his Father, then the King shall have the profits of the Lands during the life of the Issue. And the Case of