A detection of that sinnful, shamful, lying, and ridiculous discours, of Samuel Harshnet. entituled: A discouerie of the fravvdulent practises of Iohn Darrell wherein is manifestly and apparantly shewed in the eyes of the world. not only the vnlikelihoode, but the flate impossibilitie of the pretended counterfayting of William Somers, Thomas Darling, Kath. Wright, and Mary Couper, togeather with the other 7. in Lancashire, and the supposed teaching of them by the saide Iohn Darrell.

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A detection of that sinnful, shamful, lying, and ridiculous discours, of Samuel Harshnet. entituled: A discouerie of the fravvdulent practises of Iohn Darrell wherein is manifestly and apparantly shewed in the eyes of the world. not only the vnlikelihoode, but the flate impossibilitie of the pretended counterfayting of William Somers, Thomas Darling, Kath. Wright, and Mary Couper, togeather with the other 7. in Lancashire, and the supposed teaching of them by the saide Iohn Darrell.
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Darrel, John, b. ca. 1562.
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[England?] :: Imprinted [by the English secret press?],
1600.
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Harsnett, Samuel, -- 1561-1631. -- Discovery of the fraudulent practises of John Darrel -- Controversial literature -- Early works to 1800.
Demonic possession -- Early works to 1800.
Exorcism -- Early works to 1800.
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"A detection of that sinnful, shamful, lying, and ridiculous discours, of Samuel Harshnet. entituled: A discouerie of the fravvdulent practises of Iohn Darrell wherein is manifestly and apparantly shewed in the eyes of the world. not only the vnlikelihoode, but the flate impossibilitie of the pretended counterfayting of William Somers, Thomas Darling, Kath. Wright, and Mary Couper, togeather with the other 7. in Lancashire, and the supposed teaching of them by the saide Iohn Darrell." In the digital collection Early English Books Online 2. https://name.umdl.umich.edu/A19855.0001.001. University of Michigan Library Digital Collections. Accessed June 12, 2024.

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OF CHAP 3.

How M. Dar. indeuoured to excuse So. when he was taken short, and did such toyes, as did argue him sufficiently to be a counterfeit.

Discouerer.

It is obiected that his foaming came from a peece of blacke lead he had in his mouth.* 1.1 I put (saith Somers) a peece of blacke lead into my mouth, that therby I might foame in more abundant manner.

Darrell.

It is true that one a time he had a litle blacke lead in his mouth,* 1.2 but (as I verily take it) he did not then foame, as partly appeareth by Ed∣mond Garlands deposition, (following) who was then present. But be it that he did. his foaming came not, nor was because of the said blacke

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lead: for then another puting blacke lead into his mouth, shall their by be made able to foame also which I thinke non of vnderstanding will affirme: and triall therof may soone be made: 3 we speake of a ••••ming in the time of his first possession, now foaming, and then foaming, spe¦cially in great abundance the day of his dispossession: and this blacke lead from whence his foaming should come, he had onely once in his mouth, when he was at Garlands house, as is plaine by the depositions concerning the same, which was almost 20. weekes after the foaming wee speake off. Now although blacke lead may peradventure haue such an odd mysticall qualitie as is pretended, yet it could not (sure) cause him to foame, so long and so many weekes before he had it. For theiris no body that deposeh to any blacke lead: then and if he had had any we should no doubt haue heard of it: nay So. himselfe depos¦eth no such thinge: but by this deposition we may rather coniecture, that if the diuell caused not his foaming, but himselfe, then it came by rolling a stone or soape in his mouth, for so saith he I taught him to doe, that he might the better foame, But how doth the Discouerer proue that Somers foaming came of blacke lead? besides Somers testimonie, by the depositions of two witnesses. In one fitte I saw William Somers (saith Edmond Garland) froath at the movth very much, so as the foame roaped downe into his necke:* 1.3 and at on time I found a peece of blacke lead in his mouth. He doth not say, and at the same time, vz. that he foam∣ed, I found a peece et: but, and at one time I found et: meaninge, another time. So that by this deposition it should seeme, that Somers foamed not when the blacke lead was in his mouth. From hence then we can no more conclude that So. foaming came from this peece of blacke lead in his mouth, then from the morsels of bread, and gobbetes of fleshe, which he likewise hath had in his mouth. But George Richardson depos¦eth more fully:* 1.4 In a fitt he foamed (saith he) excedingly, and I hereing a∣kind of grating of some what betwixt his teeth, tould Garland the boyes kee¦per: whervpon Garland taking him by the heaire of the head, and I by his mouth, we shooke out of his mouth a pecce of blacke lead.

Darrell.

I will not stand heare to shew the falshod of mans deposition, but onely I aske, what and if So. instead of the black lead, had in his mouth a stone, or pine? had the same caused his foaming both at that time, & loge before? For I doubt not but that either of these hath as we•••• that vertue and workinge quallitie in it as blacke lead hath: I am true a∣shamed to vse so many wordes about that which deserueth rather to be laughed at, then answered: but the folly of these who beleeiuinge this haue in good earnest obiected it against me, as a matter of o∣ment, hath thus farr constrained me.

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