A replye to an ansvvere made of M. Doctor VVhitgifte Against the admonition to the Parliament. By T.C.

The reply vnto the section in the. 146. 147. 148. pages.

Sed etiam quodam in loco facetus esse voluisti, Deus bone, quam te illud non decet.

Heere M. Doctor was disposed to make hym selfe and hys reader mery / but it is with the bagpipe or countrey mirth / not with the Harpe or Lute / which the learned were wont to handle. For he hath packed vp together the olde tale of the curst wyfe / and of the theefe that toke away the priestes purse / very familiar & homely geare: It might peraduenture make M. Doctor hop about the house / but the learned & the wyse can not daunce by thys instrument. It pleaseth M. Doctor to compare those which be put out of their lyuings without iust cause / to heretickes / curst wiues / and to theeues / but all men do vnderstand how right∣ly.

What hys troubles be within / and in hys conscience / the Lord God and hee knoweth best / but as for the outwarde persecution which he suffereth / it is not such / as he neede thus to stoupe or to grone / and to blow vnderneath it / as though he had some great burthen vpon hys shoulders. And if he complayne of the per∣secution of the tong / to let passe hys immoderate heate of speach / which he vseth with those that he hath to doe with all / the tong which is more intemperate then hys is in all hys booke / shall hardly be founde. And although it be vnreasonable enough / that he should not geue men leaue to complayne of their troubles / when he gloryeth in troubling them / yet that of all is most vntollerable / that besides y^e iniury which he doth thē / he is angry y^e they wil not lay hands of thē selues by ca¦sting thē selues out of their lyuings / or euer they bee cast out by hym. Tullie ma∣keth mētiō of one C. Funbria / which whē he had caused Q. Sceloua a singular in ā to be wounded / & saw that he dyed not of it / conuēted hym before the iudges / & being asked what he had to accuse hym of / answeared / for that he dyd not suffer the whole weapon wherewith he was stricken / to enter into hys body: euen so M. Doctor contenteth not hym selfe only to doe iniuries vnto men / but accuseth them also / that they wil not do it vnto thē selues / or that they would not willing∣ly suffer hys weapons enter so farre as he would haue them. What conscience is there that bindeth a man to depart from hys lyuing / in that place where he lyketh not of all the orders which are there vsed? is it not enough to abstayne from thē / if there be any euill in them / or to declare the vnlawfulnes of them / if hys calling do suffer hym / when as the reformation is not in hys power. And if eyther of this abstayning or declaration of thys vnlawfulnes of them / troubles be moued / there is no more cause why they should geue place / then the other which lyke of those disorders / yea there is lesse cause / for that they are not the causes of trouble / but the other / and for that by their departure out of theyr places / roume is made for those whiche will lyke of those disorders which the other mislyked / which is to the hurt of that company or congregation in such places. And as for M. Doctors easynes to depart from hys lyuing / rather then he would cause any trouble / hee geueth men great cause to doubt of / which hauing dyuers great lyuinges / and a∣mongst them a benefice is very loth to goe from troubling of others / to doe hys duety at any of them. It is true / that the church of England may haue an order whereunto it may iustly require the subscription of the mynisters in Englande: And so is it likewyse vntrue / that we desire that euery one should haue hys own fansy / and lyue as hym listeth / for we also desire an vniforme order / but such and in such sort / as we haue before declared. As for the olde accusation of Anabap∣tisme and confusion / it is answeared before: therefore according to my promise / I will leaue your wordes / and if you haue any matter / I will speake to that.