* 1.17. Heretikes.
The second rule is of the name Heretikes, being the contrarie to the name Catholikes, and therefore we néede now stand lesse about it: That such as are of Christian men commonly called and knowen by the name of Heretikes, are alwayes Here∣tikes in very déede. To this Fulke agéeth not, but correcteth it, saying:* 1.2 Those that by (true) Christians haue bene called and coun∣ted for Heretikes, haue proued so in deed, (and therefore say I, Aerius, Iouinianus, and Vigilantius, were Heretikes in déede, because you confesse here cap. 2. that they were true Christians, who called and counted them so. But this not being for your vauntage, you inferre otherwise.) And therefore the Papists, be∣ing called and counted Heretikes of true Christians, without doubt are Heretikes in dede Euen as vndoubtedly as you be true Christians, that so call them. That briefly is our answere to your rule, though you answere it your selfe also, where you say, The Diuell stirred vp Tyrants, Heretikes, Popes, Saracenes, and Turkes,* 1.3 to destroy the Church, who that counteth Popes to be Heretikes, would so diuide?
What is now your answere to our rule? Forsoth, The true Christians were of the Arrian people (who were people cōmon∣ly called Christians) called and taken for Heretikes. What is that to the purpose? but were they commonly called Heretikes, euen so much as of the Arrians? Euen as much as we now be cōmon∣ly called Heretikes of you. For you know pardie your selues, that if you should in your talke and writing say, Heretikes, sim∣pliciter as we do: you could not be vnderstanded to speake of vs, so as we be with all perspicuitie vnderstanded to speake of you. Yea, but although we be called Heretikes (you say here cap. 7. pa.