An ansvvere to a certaine treatise of the crosse in baptisme. Intituled A short treatise of the crosse in baptisme contracted into this syllogisme. No humane ordinance becomming an idoll may lawfully be vsed in the service of God. But the signe of the crosse, being an humane ordinance is become an idoll. Ergo: the signe of the crosse, may not lawfully bee vsed in the service of God. VVherein not only the weaknesse of the syllogisme it selfe, but also of the grounds and proofes thereof, are plainely discovered. By L.H. Doct. of Divinitie.

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An ansvvere to a certaine treatise of the crosse in baptisme. Intituled A short treatise of the crosse in baptisme contracted into this syllogisme. No humane ordinance becomming an idoll may lawfully be vsed in the service of God. But the signe of the crosse, being an humane ordinance is become an idoll. Ergo: the signe of the crosse, may not lawfully bee vsed in the service of God. VVherein not only the weaknesse of the syllogisme it selfe, but also of the grounds and proofes thereof, are plainely discovered. By L.H. Doct. of Divinitie.
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Hutton, Leonard.
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Printed at Oxford :: By Ioseph Barnes, and are to be sold in Paules Church-yard [London] at the signe of the Crowne, by Simon Waterson,
1605.
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Bradshaw, William, -- 1571-1618. -- Shorte treatise, of the crosse in baptisme -- Controversial literature -- Early works to 1800.
Cross, Sign of the -- Early works to 1800.
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"An ansvvere to a certaine treatise of the crosse in baptisme. Intituled A short treatise of the crosse in baptisme contracted into this syllogisme. No humane ordinance becomming an idoll may lawfully be vsed in the service of God. But the signe of the crosse, being an humane ordinance is become an idoll. Ergo: the signe of the crosse, may not lawfully bee vsed in the service of God. VVherein not only the weaknesse of the syllogisme it selfe, but also of the grounds and proofes thereof, are plainely discovered. By L.H. Doct. of Divinitie." In the digital collection Early English Books Online 2. https://name.umdl.umich.edu/A03915.0001.001. University of Michigan Library Digital Collections. Accessed June 2, 2024.

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Replie to the Treatisers answere to our second obiection.

This whole answere to our second obiection is no∣thing else but a meere cauil of the Treatisers: For though the whole action, being vna et continua actio adminis∣trationis sacramenti, as you-name it, be called Baptis∣me: Yet it is so called, a digniori parte, and therfore we may very wel, & ought alwaies to distinguish, between those things, which are essentiall in this action, and those things, which are accidentall, betwene those thinges which are for substance of Baptisme, and those thinges which are for decency, & ornament. For ne ij quidem, qui ista excogitarunt, vel ab alijs introducta defenderunt, a∣liud esse censuerunt, quam Baptismi ornamenta.

No, say you, you must not so distinguish, but you must take Baptisme as we doe:* 1.1 for otherwise None of the Popish additions, whereby they defile that holy Sa∣crament, are in Baptisme, for those which apud Bellarmi∣num Baptismum comitantur, are not impious: Al this not∣withstāding, you must giue vs leaue to distinguish those things which in their owne nature are distinct: True it is that none of those quae apud Bellarminum Baptismū comi∣tantur, are of their owne nature impious, neither are they of the essence of Baptisme, and therfore wee hold, that they which are Baptised, in the Church of Rome, are rightly Baptized. But if those apud Bellarm: are not im∣pious, as you say, why call you them Antichristian? and if they be Antichristian, how are they not impious? we see your kind affectiō towards our Church: Our signing with the Crosse in Baptisme is Antichristian, as you

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call it in the 14. Section, and yet these Popish additions, that defile the Sacrament are not impious.

Your argutation, that it must be either in Baptismo, extra Baptismum, aut nullib is answered in a word. It is in Baptismo, that is in administratione Baptisme, & not in essentia Baptismi. Jt is in Baptisme as an outward de∣cent Ceremony, and ornament of the action, not as an inward part or substance of the Sacrament.

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