A detection of sundrie foule errours, lies, sclaunders, corruptions, and other false dealinges, touching doctrine, and other matters vttered and practized by M.Iewel, in a booke lately by him set foorth entituled, a defence of the apologie. &c. By Thomas Harding doctor of diuinitie.

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A detection of sundrie foule errours, lies, sclaunders, corruptions, and other false dealinges, touching doctrine, and other matters vttered and practized by M.Iewel, in a booke lately by him set foorth entituled, a defence of the apologie. &c. By Thomas Harding doctor of diuinitie.
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Harding, Thomas, 1516-1572.
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Lovanii :: Apud Ioannem Foulerum,
Anno 1568.
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Jewel, John, 1522-1571. -- Defence of the Apologie of the Churche of Englande.
Catholic Church -- Apologetic works.
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"A detection of sundrie foule errours, lies, sclaunders, corruptions, and other false dealinges, touching doctrine, and other matters vttered and practized by M.Iewel, in a booke lately by him set foorth entituled, a defence of the apologie. &c. By Thomas Harding doctor of diuinitie." In the digital collection Early English Books Online 2. https://name.umdl.umich.edu/A02637.0001.001. University of Michigan Library Digital Collections. Accessed May 28, 2024.

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Iewel. Pag. 312.

You in your imagination of the Saintes of God haue made Idolles.

Harding.

It is you that haue made Idolles of the enemies of God, to wit, of Luther, of Caluin, of Peter Martyr your maister, and of others the like. As for our honour ge∣uen to the Saintes, it is no greater, then the primitiue Church gaue to them, that is, that they heare vs in Christ, and praie in great charitie for vs. And so did al the olde Fathers beleeue, as being so taught of the Apostles. S. Ire∣naeus so nigh vnto the Apostles, doubted not to say, that the Virgin Marie obeied God, Vti virginis Euae Maria vir∣go fieret aduocata. That the Virgin Marie should be made the aduocate of the virgin Eue. And yet doth he not make her equal thereby with Christe. For our Ladie is in an other sense, and sorte our aduocate, then Christ is. Christ by right may pleade for vs, the Virgin Marie by grace may intreate for vs.

S. Gregorie Nazianzene, who praied him selfe to S. Basil being departed this life, reporteth thus of S. Cy∣prian, Virginem Mariam rogauit, vt periclitanti virgini opem ferret. He desired the Virgin Marie to helpe the Virgin which was in daunger.

S. Hilarie saith, we haue no smal garrison in the Apo∣stles, and in other Saintes.

S. Basil speaking of the fortie Martyrs, saith, He that is pressed with any calamitie, ad hos confugiat, vt à malis libe∣retu. Let him flee to these, that he may be deliuered from euil thinges, hos oret, let him praie vnto these, &c.

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S. Hieromes minde is wel knowen writing against Vigilantius.

S. Chrysostome saith, that the Emperour (the pride of his purple laid a syde) stat Sanctis supplicaturus, stan∣deth to make his supplication to the Saintes, that they make intercession for him to God.

S. Augustine sheweth it to be a commoditie, that Christian menne should be buried nigh to the Saintes, that the frendes of the dead, eisdē Sanctis tāquam patronis susceptos apud Dominum adinuandos, orando commendent: that the frendes of the dead may by making their pray∣er, commende the dead, as clientes to the same Saintes, as to their patrones, by them to finde helpe with God.

Theodoritus at large treateth of this mater, saying, that they whiche go on Pilgrimage, praie vnto the Mar∣tyrs to be their companions on the waie, not (saith he) that they make them Goddes, but they praye vnto the Mar∣tyrs, as being the menne of God. He sheweth moreouer, that after their returne, some dedicated Images, or fi∣gures of Eyes, some of Handes, some of feete made in siluer, or golde. S. Paulinus, S. Leo, S. Gregorie, S. Bede, and al the other holy and learned Fathers, agree herein.

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