A detection of sundrie foule errours, lies, sclaunders, corruptions, and other false dealinges, touching doctrine, and other matters vttered and practized by M.Iewel, in a booke lately by him set foorth entituled, a defence of the apologie. &c. By Thomas Harding doctor of diuinitie.
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A detection of sundrie foule errours, lies, sclaunders, corruptions, and other false dealinges, touching doctrine, and other matters vttered and practized by M.Iewel, in a booke lately by him set foorth entituled, a defence of the apologie. &c. By Thomas Harding doctor of diuinitie.
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Harding, Thomas, 1516-1572.
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Lovanii :: Apud Ioannem Foulerum,
Anno 1568.
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Jewel, John, 1522-1571. -- Defence of the Apologie of the Churche of Englande.
Catholic Church -- Apologetic works.
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"A detection of sundrie foule errours, lies, sclaunders, corruptions, and other false dealinges, touching doctrine, and other matters vttered and practized by M.Iewel, in a booke lately by him set foorth entituled, a defence of the apologie. &c. By Thomas Harding doctor of diuinitie." In the digital collection Early English Books Online 2. https://name.umdl.umich.edu/A02637.0001.001. University of Michigan Library Digital Collections. Accessed June 15, 2024.
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Iewel. Ibidem.
And shee is obeied of her subiectes, as farre as is conuenient for godly people to obey their Prince.
Harding.
Lo, a Quene being the right prince of a realme, vio∣lently, and besides al order of law by her subiectes thrust out of her roial estate, is yet obeied of her subiectes, so farre as is conuenient for godly people to obey their Prince. Then by your doctrine M. Iewel, it is conuenient for godly people, violently to bereue their prince of prin∣cely estate, if they like not his Religion: and yet in so doing they obey. Let vs suppose halfe a realme to be Ca∣tholiques, whom ye cal Papistes, halfe Protestantes: Shal the Papistes depose their Protestant Prince, shal the Prote¦stant
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Subiectes depose their Papist Prince? If ye teache not this, what is that ye teache?
Are not you nowe one of them, that teache Subiectes to take Armes against their Prince? Thus muche and more (whiche I omitte) haue you said of the Quene of Scotland: and yet how promised you, that you woulde saie nothing? Truely it had benne better for you, and more for your honestie, to haue said nothing in deede, and to haue dissembled the whole matter (as you haue done many other special matters, and suche as be of greatest importance in my Confutation) then thus to haue be∣wraied your traiterous iudgement and minde, touching obedience to princes: and that in a booke dedicated, and offred to be read euen of the Quenes Maiestie her selfe.
* 1.1Among other thinges thus I saie in my Confutation of the Apologie. It standeth not with Goddes promises made to the Church touching his being with the Church al daies to the worldes ende, and, the holy Ghostes remaining with it,* 1.2the spirite of Truthe for euer, that he should suffer his Churche to continewe in Darkenes, and lacke of Truthe these thousand yeres past, and now at the later daies to reuele the truthe of his Gospel by Apostates, Vowebreakers, Churcherobbers, and suche others most vnlike to the Apostles. Hereunto thus answereth M. Iewel.