A detection of sundrie foule errours, lies, sclaunders, corruptions, and other false dealinges, touching doctrine, and other matters vttered and practized by M.Iewel, in a booke lately by him set foorth entituled, a defence of the apologie. &c. By Thomas Harding doctor of diuinitie.

M. Iewel countercharged with the like sharpenesse, and discourtesie of wordes, as he reproueth in his Aduersarie. The 3. Chapter.

BVT Sir, tel me, I pray you, what is your iudge∣ment touching these, and the like vncourteous wor∣des, and speaches, as you cal them, with whiche for the more part, you vntruly burthen me? Thinke you that in no case such manner of vtterance is lawful to be vsed? If you thinke so, you are deceiued M. Iewel. The example of Christ, Iohn Baptist, the Prophetes, the Apo∣stles, the ancient holy Fathers, shew it to be lawful: who, as it is before rehersed, in certaine cases vsed it so often. Verely I doubt not, but in this case (I meane, when a Ca∣tholike hath to conuince an Heretike) it is most lawful: yea not only lawful, but also most expedient for causes aboue touched. Neither in this case to vse such order of speache, is to be accompted Discourtesie, and Inciuilitie, as your vnnecessarie Ciuilitie interpreteth: but right zele, and iuste seueritie. That spirite of God, which adui∣seth vs by the mouth of the wise man,* 1.1 to answere a Foole according to his foolishnesse, admonisheth vs no lesse, in the treatie of Goddes causes with Heretiques, to vse suche verdure of Language, as may best represse the sawci∣nesse, and pride of their stomakes.

Neuerthelesse if you thought such sharpe language to be vtterly vnlawful, as a thing that may not stand with true modestie, and ciuilitie: how happed it, that so often times you forgote your selfe? It is no courteous dealing

M. Iewel, to reproue that in others, that you so cōmonly do your selfe. Touching bitter lāguage, wherof so bitter∣ly you complaine, it may please you at your good leisure, to cal to remembrance, whose wordes among infinite o∣thers these are, with what spirite, what charitie, what mo∣destie they haue benne by you vttered. Whiche wor∣des, as for a great parte they haue the outwarde shew of no lesse heate, and vehemencie, then you note in mine: so to any man of right iudgement, they seeme to be of a farre more spite, and malice.

A few principal flowers of M. Iewelles modest, quiet, and charitable speache, vttered against the Catholikes, taken, as they came to sight, out of his preten∣sed Defence, founde, partely in the Apo∣logie, partely in the texte of the said Defence, some few also in the Margent.

• FRantike Anabaptistes, and Heretiques, as ye be. Defence. 389.
• Ye Scribes, ye Pharisees, ye Hypocrites. 625.
• Of the howse of God ye haue made a Caue of Theeues. De∣fence. Pag. 2. & 304.
• Of the Churche you haue made a Caue of Theeues. 48.
• The Temple now a daies is a denne of Theeues. 706.
• The Churche they haue made a denne of Theeues. 739.
• You haue blended Goddes wine with puddle water. 66.
• You haue turned the beautie of Sion into the confusion of Ba∣bylon. 2.
• Ye haue turned Goddes Temple into the Synagog of Sathan. 328.
• They are without either shame of man, or feare of God.* 1.2
• They wilfully withstand the truth.

• They be geuen ouer to mainteine lies.* 1.3
• They are the children of vntruth.
• They are the Children that wil not heare the law of God.
• Your hote raging sprite. 2.
• Leaue this Hypocrisie. 377.
• The Iewes your ancient Fathers. 632.
• Your Fathers the Phariseis. 2.
• Your forefathers the Phariseis. 31
• Your fathers cried out, what shal we do, &c. Ioan. 12. 327.
• S. Hierome said of your fathers, non tam indigneutur, &c. In Sophon. c. 3. 328.
• Ye confesse Scribes, and Phariseis to be your fathers. 625.
• Your fathers cried out against Christe, Nos legem habemus. 484.
• Christe was called a Samaritane, by your auncient Fathers. 631.
• This is very the leauen of the Scribes and Phariseis. 66.
• For malice they depraue our sayinges. 23.
• Your Idolatrous, and blasphemous fondnesse. 290.
• They batter vs with lies. 23.
• In spite of the Popes. 33.
• The Popes blinde preiudices. 40.
• The Pope, his Cardinalles, his Bishoppes, sleape, and do nothing. In the Preface to the Reader.
• The Popes flattering Parasites. 160.
• One of the Popes soothing Pages, and Clawbackes. 329.
• The Church of Rome is the very harlot of Babylon, and rowe of Deuilles. 453.
• The Canonistes be the Popes Parasites. 722.
• The Tyrannie of the Bishoppes of Rome. 457.
• The Popes Barbarous Persianlike Pride. Ibidem.
• The Church of Rome is nothing elles but a mother of falshod, and schoole of Pride. 609.
• Idolatrie is in the Churche of Rome. 628. 629.
• The Pope vseth neither Gods worde, nor discipline. 550.

• The Churche of Rome hath most shamefully, and wickedly erred. 565.
• The Pope speaketh more reuerently of Peter, then of Iesus Christe. 593.
• The Popes Aduocates, Abbates, Bishoppes, open enemies to the Gospel. 618.
• Your Popes Retainers. 695.
• They make decrees expressely against Gods worde. 620.
• The Pope wil plucke from vs, the Gospel, and al the confidence we haue in Christ Iesu. 723.
• The Pope hath blinded the whole worlde this many hundred yeres, and no man maie condemne him though he carrie awaie with him a thousand soules into hell. 729.
• Frantike gouernement of the Pope. 733.
• The second Councel of Nice was vaine, peeuish, wicked, blas∣phemous. 502.
• Before the Scriptures they preferre their owne Dreames. 70.
• Hicke Scorners eloquence. 356.
• Hicke Scorners logique. 270.
• Hypocritical eloquence. 2••0.
• They are very Churche robbers. 228.
• These shewes, sales, and markettes of Masses, carrying about, and worshipping of bread, other idolatrous and blasphemous fondnesse. 290.
• Blockish, and olde wiues tale. 296.
• Haruest of Massemongers. 302.
• Truth is with crueltie and tyrannie kepte vnder. 334.
• They agree together as the Phariseis and Saduceis, as Herode and Pilate. &c. 342.
• The very foes of the Gospel, and enemies to Christes Crosse. 354
• Your faction. 611. 615.
• Aduoutrie, ribaudrie, whoredome, murthering of kinne, inceste, brothel houses, flockes of Concubines, heardes of harlot haun¦ters, beastly sensualitie, abominable naughtinesse. 384.
• Like Anabaptistes, and Libertines. 395.

• Naughty personnes, and hypocrites. 429.
• They abhorre and flee the worde of God, as a theefe flieth the gallowes. 464.
• Ye rent in peeces, and burne the ancient Fathers. 500.
• Ye condemne the Scriptures. 505.
• Your Droues, and heardes of Monckes. 508.
• They let concubines to ferme to their Priestes. 510.
• Their cursed paltrie Seruice. 511.
• They mumble vp their Seruice in a Barbarous tongue. 515.
• The Canonistes at this daie for their bellies sake &c. 560.
• They haue choked vp the fonteine of lyuing water with durt•• and mire. 573.
• They haue forsaken Christe, and the Apostles. 576.
• VVith most notorious sacriledge they seuer the Sacramentes. 584.
• They leane to ignorance, and darkenes. 590.
• They haue spoiled, and disanulled the ordinances, and doctrine of the Primitiue Churche. 592.
• Your wilful ignorance. 602.
• Blinde Balams wilful purpose. 602.
• They make decrees expressely against Goddes worde. 620.
• They take parte with Annas, and Caiphas. Ibidem.
• Vnlearned Bishoppes, slow bellies. 623.
• Errour, Idolatrie, Superstition, tyrannie, Pompe. 626.
• The Councel of Trident is a Conspiracie, not a Councel. 626.
• Princes Ambassadours be vsed as mocking stockes at the Coun∣celles. 631.
• VVith spite they leaue out Princes. 635.
• O glorious Thraso. 640.
• They set not a iote by any point of religion, saue that whiche concernes their bellie, and riotte. 642.
• This is proude, this is spiteful. Ibidem.
• Princes be despitefully scorned and abused by them. 697.
• They harden their hartes against God, and his Christe. 715.
• They are menne farre more vngraceous, and wicked then any

• diceplaiers be. 728.
• Tyrannie of the Popes kingdome. 732.
• They were fooles, and madde menne. 733.
• A very spiteful dealing. 54.

Content thy selfe good Reader with these few, taken out of the whole heape. To laie forthe al, were to printe his Huge booke againe. For of suche stuffe in manner, and of vaine Scoffes, the whole con∣sisteth.

Nowe bicause M. Iewel hath laid together an other Heape of wordes culled out of my bookes, which of his courtesie he would needes calle Scoffes, and Scornes: here to make an euen reckening with him, I haue thought good to returne vnto him coine of the same stampe, tolde out of his owne bagges, though it be more cankred, then mine is.

Scoffes, and Scornes be vnseemely, saith M. Iewel. Defence. pag. 8.

Scoffes, and Scornes against God, his Churche, and his Sainctes.

• I trow ye would proue, that God the Father made holy water, and said Masse. 496.
• Christe an Abbate. 66.
• S. Peter said masse with a golden Cope, and a triple Crowne. 300.
• The Apostles had keies geuen them, but no house to open. 163.
• As if Christe, and the Pope were ioined purchasers. 608.
• If Christe were not Christe, then S. Patrike should be Christe. 231.

• Peter and Paule had neuer Papale Christianitie. 674.
• Sir Clement, Iacke of Andrew. 536.
• The Romaine faith was heard of through out the whole worlde, and so was the Capitole of Rome. 437.
• So long as the Churche of Rome can speake for her selfe, al is wel. 715.
• The spirite of Rome. 606.
• S. Augustines vnceasoned fantasies. 370.

Sacramentarie Scoffes.

• VVho taught M. Harding, that Christe hath change of diuers bodies? 86.
• Your shoppes, and gaineful boothes. 333. meant of Aulters.
• Came Christe to saue bread, and wine? 254.
• Came the Sonne of man from heauen to saue Accidentes? 254.
• VVhere was Christes bodie euer promised to your Mouth? 274
• The poore Spiritual Fourmes, and holy Accidentes are put to al the paines. 261.
• The man in the moone newly Christened. 37.
• How can a few droppes of cold water bring vs to the hope of resurrection? 221.
• These be their keies of the kingdome of heauen. 249.

Scoffes against the Pope, Bishoppes and Priestes.

• One Principal Archangel, Pope in heauen. 100.
• The Emperour was the Popes Summoner. 671.
• The Pope a special Maister Keie. 160.
• The Pope hath the holy Ghoste I trow, at his commaunde∣ment. 724.
• The Pope a lorde Paramounte. 161.
• The Popes owne Minions, and Champions. 468.
• Dame Ioane the Pope. 374.
• This is one of the Cardinalle vertues of Rome, to take tolle of Bawdrie. 369. in marg.

• Princehoode 〈◊〉〈◊〉 ••postolique, ioily large wordes, and carry great sounde. ••••••.
• VVhat if Christe•• Vicare him selfe be Antichrist? 433. In Margine.
• Your Pope no more a Bishop, then Annas, your Priest no more a Priest, then the Priest of Dagon, or Baal. 659.
• Maie Bishoppes. 664.
• Blinde Sir Robert the Archebishop of Armache. 597.
• Blinde Sir Robert of Scotland, and M. Pates of England seely poore Bishoppes. 714.
• The blessed Bishoppes of the Second Nicen Councel. 502.
• These be the great VVorthies of the worlde. 714.

Scoffes particular, and general.

• M. Harding skippeth into Goddes chaire. 23.
• M. Hardinges mystical Catholique eares. 232.
• So coye, and careful M. Harding is for holy Fourmes, and his kingdom of Accidentes. 248.
• M. Hardinges Almanake. 22.
• How long hath M. Harding benne a wisard? 209.
• M. Hardinges face died in Scarlet. 183.
• M. Harding Proctor for the Stewes. 370.
• M. Hardinges Dimi Communion. 195.
• M. Hardinges yong vntiedy Argumentes. 650.
• Albertus Pighius the stowtest Gallant of your Campe. 24.
• M. Harding wil trouble his Godfathers, and cause them to geue him a new name. 416.
• M. Hardinges mouthe no iuste measure. 8.
• If you had not studied your Copia verborum, you could neuer haue benne so copious. 388.
• And do you know his harte by towting in his eare? 157. In Margine.
• Alas your poore Chickens would die for colde. 28.
• No Haralde could lightly haue said more in the matter. 496.

• Al the same is substantially proued by t•••• ••o••••e, and deliue∣rie of a horse. 499.
• It is not a Fearnbushe, Ergo, it is a Foxe. 255.
• It is concluded in Louaine in great solemne sadnesse, &c.
• M. Hardinges Beaupeeres of Louaine. 492.
• Your innumerable Louain Vanities. 537.
• Your Louanian diuinitie. 696.
• Your Louanian Logique. 650.
• Your poore Lauanian brethren. 623.
• One of your late English Doctours of Louaine. 183.
• Your late Couente at Trident. 28. 43.
• Your late Conuentcle of Trident. 606. 619. 627. 630.
• Monkes are waxen nice, and crancke. 624.
• VVe must suppose they sate mute in a mummerie. 627.
• I maruel, there is not some Patriarke from Sodom, and Gomor∣ra. 713.
• A mystical folie of folies. 515.
• Your Captaine general, Albertus Pighius. 498.
• Canonistes the Popes Pages of honour. 530.
• Your listes, and gaineful territories of Purgatorie. 537.
• It pitieth me M. Harding to see you so vainely to bestow your spiritual cogitations. 512.
• Your spiritual Clergie M. Harding is nothing els, but a spiritual filthinesse. 513.
• This is a lusty kinde of Diuinitie. 599.
• Ful wisely. 610.
• Sadly, and sagely, and wel to the purpose. 612.
• O worthy and graue reasons. 613.
• A discrete, and worthy Proctour. 621.
• A sage exposition. 181. In Margine.
• One pange of your Eloquence. 552.
• As for lies, shames, and slaunders, &c. If ye be ful freight, yet ye maie diuide them among your poore Louanian brethren. It shal be a worke of Supererogation. For ywisse, they haue yenough alreadie. 623.

• This is no doubte the holinesse that Christe brought into the worlde. 625.
• O profounde diuinitie. 626.
• A wise piece of counsel, and meete for a Doctor of Diuinitie. 631.
• Had you not had a shrewd sharpe witte M. Harding. &c. 630.
• Alas M. Harding, although ye litle passe for your Diuinitie, yet why haue ye no more regarde vnto your Logique? 622.
• It pitieth me M. Harding to see your folies. 623.
• O glorious Thraso. 640.
• A worthy Argument, and ful wisely applied. 477.
• VVith what cement can ye make these seely loose partes to cleaue together? 637.
• Ful Discretely, 647.
• Discretely reasoned.
• Your priestly Conclusions. 653.
• Thus ye fetche your matter round, within, without, and round aboute. 659.
• Your maie Bishoppes, otherwise by you called Nullatenses. 664.
• Ye fil the howse ful with Patriarkes of Constantinople. &c. 668.
• Your Popes by their omnipotent power maie minister Sacra∣mentes being dead. 669.
• The Emperours in Councelles helde their peace, and tolde the clocke, and said nothing. 677.
• Ye thincke no colour to deere to paint out the Popes face. 695.
• Here we haue founde a Pope with two capacitie••. 724.
• The Pope succeedeth Peter in his chaire, as if Peter had benne sometimes enstalled in Rome, and had sate solemnely al daie with his triple crowne in his Pontificalibus, in a chaire of goulde. 726.
• Al these matters be ful solemnely proued, and are worthie to be published by Proclamation. 414.
• Al this is Hicke Scorners Eloquence. 356.

Here, if thou be not weary of this Lothsome gheare, gentle Reader, thou maist also see, with what sober, modeste, and learned Notes M. Iewel hath painte•• the margent of his Booke, where so euer he laith foorth some Maimed peeces of my Confutation. Maimed peeces I maie cal them, for seldom, or ra∣ther no where, hath he suffered any discourse of mine to be printed in his Booke, whole, vnmaimed, and vnmangled. In these Notes thou hast the sub∣stance of his answeres. For if thou marke, what he bringeth in his texte besides, and discusse it exactly: thou shal finde, specially where any part of Doctrine is touched, that it perteineth very litle, or nothing to the point presently treated.

M. Iewelles sober and modeste Marginal Notes vpon the Confutation.

• Vntruthe boldely presumed. 96. 238.
• Manifest and meere vntruthes. 105.
• Vntruth most vaine and manifest. 107.
• Vntruth impudent aboue measure. 109. 512.
• Vntruth vaine and Childish. 114. 202. 610. 683.
• A vaine vntruth. 126. 245.
• An odious vntruth. 127.
• Vntruth ioyned with vaine follie. 135.
• A great vntruth ioyned with a sclaunder. 146.
• Vntruth fond and childish. 191. 254. 611.
• Vntruth ioined with heathenisse blasphemies. 207.
• Vntruth proceeding of vnaduised malice. 211.
• Vntruth ioined with grosse ignorance. 215.
• Vntruth ioined with sclaunder and malice. 219.
• Vntruth sclaunderous. 219. 626.

• Vntruth, and one of M. Hardinges mystical Dreames. 219.
• Vntruth horrible and heathnish. Ibidem.
• Vntruth so sensible and so grosse, that a man maie feele it with his fingers. 228.
• Vntruth blasphemous and horrible. 297.
• A peeuish vntruth. 250.
• Vntruth trifling and sophistical. 255.
• Vntruth shamelesse and without sense. 258.
• Vntruth vaine and arrogant. 261.
• Vntruth grounded vpon meere folie. 262.
• Vntruth grounded vpon a dreame. 266.
• Vntruth childish and vnsauery. 267.
• Vntruth guilefully enclosed. 278. 662.
• Vntruth vile and sclaunderous. 281.
• Vntruthes, and most fond and blasphemous folies. 291.
• Vntruth fonde, and heathnish. 291.
• Vntruth proceding of vaine dotage. 311.
• Vntruth ioined with vile sclaunder. 335.
• A vile vntruth. 368.
• Vntruth malicious and sclaunderous. 393. 433.
• Nothing elles but meere vntruthes. 393.
• Vntruth fonde and peuish. 400. 513. 515.
• Vntruth too vaine for a childe. 400.
• Vntruth ioined with open folie. 402.
• A great vntruth, and a shamelesse fable. 411.
• Vntruth euident to a childe. 424.
• Vntruth grownded vpon grosse ignorance. 439.
• Vntruth manifest without witte. 449.
• Vntruth more peuish then the former. 449.
• Vntruth vtterly voide of shame. 449.
• Vntruthes impudent. 494. 661.
• Vntruth so impudent, that I marueil M. Harding can report it without blushing. 513.
• Vntruth vndiscrete and impudent. 532.
• A whole heape of vntruthes and forgeries hudled together. 537.

• Vntruth without either measure, or regarde of shame, 55••, 7••9.
• Vntruthes ioined with open blasphemie. 551.
• Vntruth without any sauour of witte and learning. 613.
• Vntruth most impudent. 626.
• Vntruth shamelesse without measure. 68••.
• Vntruth ioined with impudent flatterie, and extreme folie.

M. Iewelles Outcries, bitter, and scoffinge Oos.

• O folie. 90. 124. 250. 550.
• O Dangerous Doctrine. 136.
• O merueilous horrible heresie. 207.
• O fonde folie. 245. 610.
• O exact folie. 250.
• O fonde grosnesse. 278.
• O braue Captaine. 281.
• O earthly Diuinitie. 284.
• O so careful this good man is for our cares. 303.
• O graue commentarie, and a wise matter &c. 303.
• O when wil M. Harding confesse a faulte. 311.
• O a faire bonegrace. 382.
• O vaine brauerie. 390.
• O natural folie. 396.
• O graue consideration. 424.
• O vaine excuse. 506.
• O fonde man. 546.
• O so merelie this man plaieth with his phantasie. 578.
• O worthy and great reasons. 613.
• O profound Diuinitie. 626.
• O glorious Thraso. 640.
• O vanitie of vanities. 647.
• O folie of folies. 673.
• O vaine man. 687.
• O ye principal Postes of religion, O ye Archegouernours. 469
• Alas they haue it not. 290.

I leaue mo then I take of these flowers, gentle Rea∣der. How pleasant the shewe of these fewe is vnto thine eie, I know not. Verely had not M. Iewel driuen me vnto this practise by his example, I should not haue liked the Deuise. Now if it offende thee, blame not mine, but M, Iewelles Inuention. I thought suche debte could not be better answered, then by paiment of the same money. By this thou maiest iudge, what stuffe in that huge Booke is pacte to∣gether.

Notes

• * 1.1

  Prou. 26.
• * 1.2

  In the Pre∣face to the Christian Reader.
• * 1.3

  In the Pre∣face to the Christian Reader.