I answered, that this Scripture held forth no
local, but a spiritual heaven; for the heaven here
is that into which saints are already risen into;
if risen with him, then above with him, beholding
the glory of the Son with the Father, seeking
things which are sutable to such a condition, un∣til
the Son shall appear in his brightness; then
shall they appear with him in glory, verse 4. for
they shall see him as he is, 1 John 3. 3.
They ask where heaven is, if not a particular
place? I answer, as in relation to God its every
where, he being in all places, yet never out of
the perfection of glory, therefore never out of
heaven; as in relation to the Creature, its every
where, where the heavenly light and love is ma∣nifest,
and the soul taken into union with it: He
asked if I would bring heaven and hell together?
whether heaven was in hell? I answered, yea, it
is in hell; you grant that God is in hell, then
certainly heaven is there; for God is never out of
the heavenly glory; farther, two persons may be
in one place, the one in heaven the other in hell;
the one in the injoyment of love and grace, the
other in the apprehension of wrath and anger;
experience declares the truth of this; and thus
may it be in another world to eternity, seeing
its not the place, but the condition which makes
the difference: Again, heaven and hell, light and
darkness, joy and sorrow, may be in one heart,