Truth maintained, or Positions delivered in a sermon at the Savoy: since traduced for dangerous: now asserted for sound and safe. By Thomas Fuller, B.D. late of Sidney Colledge in Cambridge. The particulars are these. I That the doctrine of the impossibility of a churches perfection, in this world, being wel understood, begets not lazinesse but the more industry in wise reformers. II That the Church of England cannot justly be taxed with superstitious innovations. III How farre private Christians, ministers, and subordinate magistrates, are to concurre to the advancing of a publique reformation. IIII What parts therein are only to be acted by the Supreme power. V Of the progresse, and praise of passive obedience. VI That no extraordinary excitations, incitations, or inspirations are bestowed from God, on men in these dayes. VII That it is utterly unlawfull to give any just offence to the papist, or to any men whatsoever. VIII What advantage the Fathers had of us, in learning and religion, and what we have of them. IX That no new light, or new essentiall truths, are, or can be revealed in this age. X That the doctrine of the Churches imperfection, may safely be preached, and cannot honestly be concealed. With severall letters, to cleare the occasion of this book.
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Truth maintained, or Positions delivered in a sermon at the Savoy: since traduced for dangerous: now asserted for sound and safe. By Thomas Fuller, B.D. late of Sidney Colledge in Cambridge. The particulars are these. I That the doctrine of the impossibility of a churches perfection, in this world, being wel understood, begets not lazinesse but the more industry in wise reformers. II That the Church of England cannot justly be taxed with superstitious innovations. III How farre private Christians, ministers, and subordinate magistrates, are to concurre to the advancing of a publique reformation. IIII What parts therein are only to be acted by the Supreme power. V Of the progresse, and praise of passive obedience. VI That no extraordinary excitations, incitations, or inspirations are bestowed from God, on men in these dayes. VII That it is utterly unlawfull to give any just offence to the papist, or to any men whatsoever. VIII What advantage the Fathers had of us, in learning and religion, and what we have of them. IX That no new light, or new essentiall truths, are, or can be revealed in this age. X That the doctrine of the Churches imperfection, may safely be preached, and cannot honestly be concealed. With severall letters, to cleare the occasion of this book.
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Fuller, Thomas, 1608-1661.
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Printed at Oxford [i.e. London :: s.n.],
anno Dom. 1643.
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Fuller, Thomas, 1608-1661. -- Sermon of reformation -- Early works to 1800.
Saltmarsh, John, d. 1647. -- Examinations -- Early works to 1800.
Sermons, English -- 17th century.
Reformation -- England -- Sermons -- Early works to 1800.
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"Truth maintained, or Positions delivered in a sermon at the Savoy: since traduced for dangerous: now asserted for sound and safe. By Thomas Fuller, B.D. late of Sidney Colledge in Cambridge. The particulars are these. I That the doctrine of the impossibility of a churches perfection, in this world, being wel understood, begets not lazinesse but the more industry in wise reformers. II That the Church of England cannot justly be taxed with superstitious innovations. III How farre private Christians, ministers, and subordinate magistrates, are to concurre to the advancing of a publique reformation. IIII What parts therein are only to be acted by the Supreme power. V Of the progresse, and praise of passive obedience. VI That no extraordinary excitations, incitations, or inspirations are bestowed from God, on men in these dayes. VII That it is utterly unlawfull to give any just offence to the papist, or to any men whatsoever. VIII What advantage the Fathers had of us, in learning and religion, and what we have of them. IX That no new light, or new essentiall truths, are, or can be revealed in this age. X That the doctrine of the Churches imperfection, may safely be preached, and cannot honestly be concealed. With severall letters, to cleare the occasion of this book." In the digital collection Early English Books Online. https://name.umdl.umich.edu/A85036.0001.001. University of Michigan Library Digital Collections. Accessed May 10, 2025.
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TO THE
LEARNED
AND MY
WORTHY GOOD FRIEND,
Master
Charles Herle.
SIR,
WHen I read a Pamphlet of M. Saltmarsh written
against me, it something moved my Affecti∣ons,
but nothing removed my Judgement. But
when I saw it recommended to the world with your
Approbation, in this manner,
Nihil invenio in hoc Libello, cui Titulus,
(Examinations, or a discovery of some dangerous Po∣sitions,
delivered in a Sermon of Reformation Prea∣ched
by Tho. Fuller, B. D. quin utiliter imprimatur.
Charles Herle.
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I must confesse it troubled me not a little, suspecting
either my Eyes or my Understanding, that either I mis∣read
your Name, or had mis-written something in my Ser∣mon.
Wherefore fearing Partiality might blind me in
mine Owne Book (knowing that Eli was not the onely
Indulgent Father to his owne Off-spring) I imparted my
Sermon to some whom you respect, and they respect
you: Men of singular Learning and Piety, to Examine
it. These likewise could discover no dangerous Posi∣tions
in it, except such as were dangerous for a Preacher
to deliver, but safe for People to Receive in these
Troublesome Times. And I am Confident that their
Iudgement was such, They would not be deceived with
my Falsehoods: and their Honesty such, They would
not deceive me by their Flattery.
And now Sir (Love cannot Hate, but it may justly be
Angry) Consider how your accusing of me, to maintaine
dangerous Positions, might, as the Times stand, have un∣done
me and mine, and at least have intituled mee to a
Prison, now adayes the Grave of men alive. Times are
not as formerly, when Schollers might safely Traverse
a Controversie in disputation. Honourable Tilting is
left off, since men fell to down-right killing; and in vaine
should I dispute my Innocence against Souldiers vio∣lence,
who would interpret the Accusation of a man
of your Credit to be my sufficient Conviction.
I have in this my Defence, so well as God did Enable
me, more clearely expressed, and strongly confirmed
the Positions I formerly delivered, and request you to
tell mee, which are the dangerous Points that here I
maintaine. By the Lawes of our Land, the Creditor
hath his Choice, whether he will sue the Principall, or
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the Surety, and discretion will advise him, to sue him
which is most solveable. Your Ability is sufficiently
knowne, and seeing you have beene pleased to be bound
for Master Saltmarsh his Booke, in your Approving it:
blame me not Sir, if I (I will not say sue you) but Sue to
you for my Reparation.
If you can Convince me of my Faults herein (and I
will bring great desire, and some capacity to Learne
from you) I shall owne my selfe your Proselyte, thanke
God for you, and you for my Conversion. Yea in a Prin∣ted
sheet I will doe publique Penance to the open view
of the World, to shew men, that although I had so much
Ignorance as to Erre, I have not so much Impudence as
to Persist in an Errour, and shall remaine,
Yours in all Christian Offices.
THOMAS FULLER.
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