Guitmond Arch-bishop of Averse.
SOME time after Berenger's Recantation in the Council of Rome, Guitmond Arch-bishop of * 1.1 Averse, formerly a Monk of the Monastery of S. Leufroy in Normandy, compos'd three Books against Berenger in the nature of a Dialogue; wherein Roger, to whom these Books were dedicated, is made to propose the Objections of Berenger and his Followers. After he had given a Character of the Temper and the Errors of Berenger, and mention'd his Con∣demnation in the Council of Verceil in his first Book, he then proceeds to tell us, That all the Berengarians hold, that the Bread and Wine are not substantially chang'd in the Sacrament of the Eucharist; but that they do not all agree in their Sentiments. For some believe, That the Body and Blood of JESUS CHRIST are not at all in this Sacrament, which they pretend to be only a Sign and a Figure. Others assert, That the Body and Blood of JESUS CHRIST are really there, but that they are conceal'd, and that we might re∣ceive them there is made a kind of Impanation; the most subtil Opinion which they say Be∣renger ever found out. Others, who were not thorough-pac'd Berengarians, but only shock'd by the Arguments of that Heretick, imagin'd the Bread and Wine are chang'd in part, and in part remain the same. Lastly, There were others who believe that the Bread and Wine are entirely chang'd; but that when unworthy Persons approach this Sacrament, it return'd to its first Substance of Bread and Wine. Guitmond undertakes to refute all these Opinions; and in the first place oppugns the two former, which were properly the Berengarian's Opi∣nions, by shewing that there was a real Change made of the Bread and Wine into the Body and Blood of JESUS CHRIST. He proves first, That it was not impossible for God to effect this Change. Secondly, That the Body of JESUS CHRIST might very well be touch'd, broken, bruis'd and eaten, and yet not be passible, corruptible or mortal; and that when the Host is divided into several parts, yet the Body of JESUS CHRIST is not divided, but remains whole and entire, and the same under each Wafer; and such as is in a thousand distinct Places in the Hands of a thousand Priests, who say Mass in different Places, and yet this very Body is still in Heaven. That we ought not to wonder that this Change is not indeed perceptible by our Senses; but that we are not always to credit their Evidence, and that Faith is enough to persuade us of this Miracle. That 'tis indeed difficult to conceive, but easy to believe it, since nothing is impossible to God, who has produced Things more wonderful. And that we see Changes altogether as surprizing, such as the Change of Nothing into this visible World, the Change of Accidents into other Accidents, the Change of Substances into other Substances, together with the Change of their Accidents: If these Changes are possible, why should the Change of one Substance into another, with∣out the Change of the Accidents, be counted impossible?
In the Second Book, Guitmond answers an Objection made by Berenger, which Roger proposes to him in these Words:
Berenger says, The Flesh of JESUS CHRIST is in∣corruptible, but the Sacraments of the Altar are corruptible if they be kept too long.To this Guitmond replies, That tho' the Consecrated Bread seems to be corrupted to the Appre∣hension of corrupted Men, yet in reality it is not chang'd at all; and that it does not appear alter'd, unless as a Punishment of the Infidelity and Negligence of Men: That it cannot be gnawn by Mice, and other Vermine; and if at any time it appears to be so, 'tis only to pu∣nish the Negligence, or to try the Faith of Men. Nor will he admit that the Fire can con∣sume these Mysteries; and he says, That with Veneration they commit it to this most pure Element, to be carry'd up into Heaven. Lastly he affirms, That though the Eucharist may serve for Nourishment, yet it does not turn to Excrement; and as to that Objection which might be made, That supposing a Man should eat nothing for some considerable time but conse∣crated Bread, he would nevertheless have occasion to go to Stool. He answers, That 'tis a Mat∣ter of Fact, that has never been experienc'd, and that it could never enter into the Heart of any Catholick to try such an Experiment: That if any of Berenger's Party thought fit to do it, one should not trouble one's Head much about what became of the Mass of those Infidels, which committed so great a Crime; Because, says he, we do not believe, That the Bread and Wine are necessarily chang'd into the Body and Blood of JESUS CHRIST, unless among those who have the Faith to believe this Mystery, and that the Words of JESUS CHRIST are efficacious. That Lastly, If any of them should order a Catholick Priest to consecrate one or more great Loaves to try the Experiment, it is to be believ'd that this Loaf would not be turn'd into Excrement; or rather that God would permit these Hereticks to be deceiv'd, by ordering some Angel or Spirit to convey away this consecrated Loaf, and to put an unconsecrated one in its stead. After he had thus solv'd the Objections drawn from Reason, he answers the Passages cited out of S. Augustin, and makes it appear in what Sense, and of what the Eucharist is a Sign.