¶A communication betweene D. Brokes, and D. Ridley, in M. Irysh his house, the xv. day of October, at which tyme he was degraded.
IN the meane season vpon the 15. day in the mornyng, and the same yeare aboue sayd,* 1.1 the Byshop of Glocester Doct. Brokes, and the Uicechauncelour of Oxford Doct. Marshall,* 1.2 with diuerse other of the chiefe and heades of the same Uniuersitie, and many other moe accompanying with them, came vnto M. Irish his house then Maior of Oxforde, where D. Ridley, late Byshop of London was close prisoner. And when the Byshop of Glocester came into the chamber where the sayde D, Ridley did lye, he told him for what purpose their comming was vnto him, saying:* 1.3 that yet once agayne the Queenes Maiestie did offer vnto hym by them, her gracious mercy, if that he woulde receiue the same, and come home agayne to the fayth which he was Baptised in, & reuoke his erroneous doctrine that he of late had taught abroad to the destructiō of many. And further said, that if he would not recant, and become one of the Catholicke Churche with them, then they must needes (against their willes) proceede according to the lawe, which they would be very loth to do, if they might otherwise. But (sayth he) we haue bene often tim••s with you, and haue requested that you would recant this your fantasticall & deuilish opinion, where hytherto you haue not, although you might in so doing winne many, and do much good. Therefore good M. Ridley, consyder with your selfe the daunger that shall ensue both of body and soule, if that you shall so wilfully cast your selfe away in refusing mercy offered vnto you at this time.
My Lord, quoth D. Ridley, you know my mynd fully herein: and as for the doctrine which I haue taught,* 1.4 my conscience assureth me that it was sounde, & accordyng to Gods word (to his glory be it spoken) the which doctrine the Lord God beyng my helper, I wyll mayntaine so long as my tongue shall wagge,* 1.5 and breath is within my body, and in confirmation thereof, seale the same with my bloud.
Well, you were best, M. Ridley, not to do so, but to become one of the Church with vs. For you know this well enough, that whosoeuer is out of the Catholike church, can not be saued: therefore I say once agayne, that whiles you haue time and mercy offered you, receiue it, and confesse with vs the Popes holynes to be be the chiefe head of the same Church.* 1.6
I marueyle that you wyll trouble me with any suche vayne and foolysh talke. You know my mynd con∣cerning the vsurped authoritie of the Romishe Antichrist. As I confessed openly in the Scholes, so do I nowe, that both by my behauiour and talke I do no obedience at all vnto the Byshop of Rome, nor to his vsurped authoritie, and that for diuers good and godly considerations. And here Doct. Ridley would haue reasoned with the sayde Brokes Byshop of Glocester,* 1.7 of the Byshop of Romes authorities, but could not be suffered, and yet he spake so earnestly agaynst the Pope therein, that the Byshop told hym, if he would not hold his peace, he should be compel∣led agaynst his wyll. And seeyng sayth he, that you wyll not receiue the Queenes mercy now offered vnto you, but stubburnly refuse the same, we must, against our wils, proceede according to our Commission to disgradyng, ta∣kyng from you the dignitie of Priesthode. For we take you for no Byshop, and therefore we will the sooner haue done with you: so, committing you to the secular power, you know what doth follow.
Do with me as it shall please God to suffer you, I am well content to abide the same with all my hart.
Put of your cap M. Ridley, and put vppon you this surples.
Not I truly.* 1.8
But you must.
I wyll not.
You must: therefore make no more a do, but put this surples vpon you.
Truly if it come vpon me, it shalbe against my wil.
Will you not do it vpon you?
No, that I will not.
It shalbe put vpon you by one or other.
Do therein as it shall please you. I am well con∣tented with that, and more then that: the seruaunt is not aboue his Maister. If they delt so cruelly with our Sauiour Christe, as the Scripture maketh mention, and he suffered the same patienly, howe muche more doth it become vs his seruaunts? and in saying of these wordes they put vppon the sayde Doctor Ridley the surples, with all the trinkettes appertaynyg to the Masse, and as they were puttyng on the same,* 1.9 Doctor Ridley did ve∣hemently inuey against the Romysh Byshyp and all that foolysh apparell, callyng hym Antichrist, and the apparell foolysh and abominable, yea to fond for a Uice in a play, in so muche that Brokes was exceeding angry with him, and bad hym holde his peace. For he dyd but rayle. Doct. Ridley aunsweared agayne, and sayde: so long as his tounge and breath woulde suffer hym, he woulde speake agaynst their abominable doynges, what so euer happe∣ned vnto hym for so doyng.
Well, you were best to holde your peace, lest your mouth be stopped. At which wordes one Edridge, the rea∣der then of the Greeke Lecture standing by, sayd to Doct. Brokes: Syr, the lawe is he should be gagged, therefore let hym be gagged. At which wordes Doct. Ridley loo∣kyng earnestly vpon him that so sayd, wagged his head at hym, and made no aunswere againe, but with a sigh sayd: Oh well, well, well.
So they proceeded in their doinges: yet neuerthe∣lesse