booke of the report of the disputations, I wrote the same & it is true in euery argument, as M. Deane of Rooche∣ster, and M. Cheyney Archdeacon of Herford (yet being a∣liue, and within the realme) can testifie.
Chadsey.
You haue of scriptures the foure Euangelistes for the probation of Christes reall presence to be in the sa∣crament after the wordes of consecration, with S. Paule to the Corinthians: whiche all saye: Hoc est corpus meum: This is my body. They say not as you woulde haue me to beleue, this is not the bodye. But specially the 6. of Iohn prooueth the same most manifestly, where Christ promised to geue his body, which hee performed in his last supper, as it appeareth by these wordes. Panis quem ego dabo, caro mea est, quam ego dabo pro mūdi vita: The bread whiche I wyll geue is my flesh, which I wil geue for the life of the world.
Phil.
My Lord Rich, with your leaue, I must needes in∣terrupt him a litle, because he speaketh open blasphemy a∣gainst ye death of Christ: for if that promise brought in by s. Iohn was performed by Christ in his last supper, thē nee∣ded he not to haue dyed after he had geuen the sacrament.
Rich.
Let maister Doctour make an end of his argumēts, and afterward obiect to him what you can.
Chadsey.
You must note that there is twise Dabo in thys saying of S. Iohn, & the first is referred to the sacrament of the au••tar: & the second to ye sacrifice vpon the crosse: and besides these manifest scriptures, there bee many auncient Doctors proouing the same, as Ignatius, Irenaeus, & S. Cypri∣an (whose authoritie he recited at large) which I do omitte because I was not permitted to answere the same.
Rich.
Now aunswere, and obiect to him what you can, & you shalbe heard.
Phil.
My Lord, the chiefest ground where he with the rest of his side do ground thēselues agaynst vs, be these words This is my body, with a false pretence of the omnipotency of God. And before I will come to the particular aunsweres of all that he hath alledged, for that your Lordships may ye better vnderstand me, what I meane and whereuppon I stand, I will require mayster Doctor to aunswere me one question. But first of all I do protest to your honours that I thinke as reuerently of the sacrament, as a christian mā ought to do, and that I acknowledge the sacrament of the body and bloud of Christe, ministred after Christes Insti∣tution, to bee one of the greatest treasures and comfortes that he left vs on the earth: and contrariwise it is most dis∣comfort and abhominable, not being ministred as it ought to be, as it is vsed now a dayes. And now to my question, which is this: whether these wordes onely: Hoc est corpus meum: This is my body, spoken by a priest ouer the bread and wine, may make the body and bloud of Christ, as you sup∣pose or no?
Chedsey.
Staggering what he might say, at last hee sayd, that these wordes alone pronounced by the Priest, be suffi∣cient to make the bread and the wyne the very bodye and bloud of Christ really.
Philpot.
That is blasphemy to say, and agaynst al ye scrip∣tures and Doctours, who affirme that the forme and sub∣stance in consideration must be obserued whiche Christ v∣sed and did institute as S. Cyprian sayth: In sacrificio quod Christus est, non nisi Christus sequendus: In the sacrifice whiche is Christ, onely is Christ to be followed. And by the lawe it is forbidden to adde or take away from Gods word. And S. Peter sayth, If anye man speake, let him speake as the worde of God. Wherfore whosoeuer sayth that these wordes onely: This is my body, do make a presence of christ, without, blesse, take, and eate, which be three as substanciall poyntes of the Sacramente as, Thys is my bodye, is, he is highly decei∣ued.
Therfore S. Austen sayth, Accedat verbum ad elemen∣tum & fit sacramentum: Let the word be ioyned to the element, and it be commeth a sacrament: So that if the entier worde of Christes Institution be not obserued in the ministration of a Sacrament, it is no sacrament: as the sacrifices which the ten tribes did offer at Bethell to God, were not accep∣table because they were not in all poyntes done according to Gods word. Wherfore except blessing be made after the word (whiche is a due thankesgeuing for our redemption in Christ) and also a shewing forth of the Lordes death in such wise as the congregation may be edified: and moreo∣uer a taking and eating after Christes commaundement: except (I say) these three partes be first performed (which is not done in the Masse) these wordes: This is my bodye, which are last placed in the Institution of the Lords sup∣per, can not be verified. For Christe commaunded aswell, Take, ye, eate ye, as This is my body.
Chadsey.
Christ sayd: Take, eate, this is my body, and not, take ye, eate ye.
Phil.
No did Mayster Doctour? Be not these the wordes of Christ: Accipite manducate? and do not these wordes in the plurall number signifie, Take ye, eate ye: and not take thou, eate thou, as you would suppose?
Chadsey.
I graunt it as you say.
Phil.
Likewise of consequencie, you (Mayster Doctour) must needes deny, which you haue sayd, that these words, This is my body, being onely spoken, be sufficient to make ye body and bloud of Christe in the sacrament, as you haue vntruely sayd.
London.
Then came in the bishop agayne, and sayd, what is it that you would haue mayster Doctor deny?
Phil.
My Lord M. Doctor hath affirmed that these words This is my body, spoken by the prieste, onely doe make the sacrament.
London.
In deede if mayster Briges shoulde speake these wordes ouer the bread and wine, they woulde be of none effect: but if a priest speake them after a due maner, they are effectuall, and make a reall body.
Phil.
Mayster Doctor hath sayd otherwise.
London.
I thinke you mistake him: for hee meaneth of the wordes duely pronounced.
Philpot.
Let hym reuoke that he hath graunted, and then will I begin agayne with that whiche before was sayde: that, This is my bodye, hath no place, except, blesse, take, and eate, duely go before. And therfore because the same words do not go before This is my body, but preposterously follow in your sacrament of the Masse, it is not the sacrament of Christ, neither hath Christ in it present.
Chadsey.
If, This is my body, onely do not make the Sacra∣ment, no more do, blesse, take, and eate.
Philpot.
I graunt that the one without the other cannot make the sacrament. And it can be no sacrament vnlesse yt whole action of Christ doth concurre together accordynge to the first Institution.
Chadsey.
Why, then you will not haue it to be the bodye of Christ, vnlesse it be receaued.
Phil.
No verely, it is not the very body of Christ to none other, but to such as condignely receaue the same after hys Institution.
London.
Is not a loafe a loafe, being set on ye table though no body eate therof.
Phil.
It is not like my Lord. For a loafe is a loafe before it ••e set on the Table: but so is not the Sacrament a perfecte Sacrament before it be duely ministred at the table of the Lord.
London.
I pray you, what is it in the meane while, before it is receaued.
Phil.
It is (my Lord) the signe begon of a holy thing, & yes no perfect sacrament vntill it be receaued. For in the sacra∣ment there be two thinges to be considered, the signe and the thing it selfe, which is Christ and hys whole Passion, & it is that to none but to such as worthily receaue the ho∣ly signes of bread & wine, according to Christes institutiō.
Winsor.
There were neuer none, that denyed the words of Christ as you do. Did he not say: This is my body?
Philpot.
My Lord, I pray you be not deceaued. We do not deny the wordes of Christ: but we say, these wordes bee of none effect, being spoken otherwise then Christe did insti∣tute them in hys last supper. For an example: Chryst bid∣deth the churche to baptise in the name of the father, the sonne, and the holy Ghost: if a Priest say those wordes ouer ye wa∣ter and there bee no childe to be Baptised, those wordes onely pronounced doe not make Baptisme. And agayne, Baptisme is not onely Baptisme to suche as bee baptised, and to none other standing by.
L. Chamb.
I pray you my Lord, let me aske him one questi∣on. What kinde of presence in the sacrament (duely miny∣stred according to Christes ordinaunce) do you allow?
Philpot.
If any come worthely to receaue, then do I con∣fesse the presence of Christ wholy to bee, with all ye fruites of his Passion, vnto the sayd worthy receauer, by the spy∣rite of God, and that Christ is therby ioyned to hym and he to Christ.
L. Chamb.
I am aunswered.
London.
My Lordes take no heede of him, for hee goeth a∣bout to deceaue you. His similitude that he bryngeth in of Baptisme, is nothing like to the sacrament of the aultar. For if I should say to sir Iohn Briges beyng with me at supper, & hauing a fat Capō, take, eate, this is a fat Capon although he eate not thereof, is it not a Capon still? And likewise of a peece of Beefe, or of a cup of wyne, if I saye: drinke, this is a good cup of wyne, is it not so, because hee drinketh not therof?
Phil.
My lord your similitudes be to grosse for so high mi∣steryes as wee haue in hande, as if I were your equall, I could more playnly declare, and there is much more dissi∣militude betweene common meates and drinkes then there is betweene baptisme and the sacramente of the bo∣dy and bloud of Christ. Like must be compared to lyke. &