¶The Apologie of M. Mantell the elder.
PErceiuing that already certayne false reports are raysed of me concerning my aunsweres in the behalfe of my beliefe,* 1.1 whiles I was prisoner in the Tower of London, and considering how sore a matter it is to be an occasion of offence to any of those little ones that beleeue in Christ:* 1.2 •• haue thought it the duty of a Chri∣stian man as neare as I can (with the truth) to take away thys offence. It pleased the Queenes Maiesty to send vnto me M. Doct. Bourne,* 1.3 vnto whome at the first meeting I acknowledged my fayth in all points to agree with the foure Creedes, that is, the common Creede, the Creede of Nicene, Quicunque vult, and Te Deum laudamus.
Further, as concerning confession and penaunce, I declared that I could be contente to shewe vnto anye learned Minister of Christes Church, any thing that troubled my conscience, and of such a mā I would most willingly heare absolution pronounced.
Touching the Sacrament of the aulter (as he termed it) I sayd that I beleeued Christ to be there present as the holy Ghost ment when these words were written:* 1.4 Hoc est corpus meum.
Further, when this would not satisfye, I desired him to consider that I was a condemned man to dye by a law, and that it was more mee••e for me to seeke a readines and preparation to death. And in so much as I dissented not from him in any article of the Chri∣stian fayth necessary to saluation, I desired him for Gods sake no more to trouble me with such matters, as whiche to beleeue is neyther saluation, nor not to beleeue, damnation. He aunswered, that if I dissented but in the least matter frō the catholick Church, my soule was in great daunger, therefore much more in thys great matter, alleadging this text: Qui offenderit in minimo, fa∣ctus est reus omnium. He that offendeth in the least of these, is gilty of them all. Yea (quoth I) Verum est,* 1.5 ex hisce mandatis i. It is true, of these commaundementes of God. To this I desired him to consider, that it was not my matter, neither was I able in these matters to keepe disputation, nor minded so to doe, and therefore to take these few wordes for a full aunswere, that I not onely in the matter of the sacrament, but also in all other matters of Religion,* 1.6 Beleeue as the holy Catholicke Church of Christ (grounded vpon the Prophetes and Apostles) beleeueth. But vppon this worde Church we agreed not, for I tooke ex∣ceptionat the Antichristian Popish Church.
Then fell we in talke of the Masse, wherein wee agreed not:* 1.7 for I, both for the occasion of Idolatry, and also the cleare sub∣uersion of Christes institution, thought it nought, and he è cō∣tra vppon certaine considerations supposed it good. I founde fault that it was accounted a Sacrifice propiciatory for sinne, and at certaine other applications of it. But he sayde that it was not a propiciatory sacrifice for sinne (for the death of Christ onely was the Sacrifice) and this but a commemoration of the same. Then I: if ye thinke so, certaine blasphemous collectes left out, I could be content (were it not for offending my poore brethren that beleeue in Christ, which know not so muche) to heare your Masse. See (quoth he) howe vayne glory toucheth you. Not so sir (quoth I) I am not now I thanke God, in case to be vayne glorious.
Then I found further faulte with it, that it was not a com∣munion. Yes (sayth he) one Priest saying Masse here,* 1.8 and an o∣ther there, and the third in an other place &c. is a communion. This agreeth scarcely with these words of Paule (sayd I): Non in melius, sed in deterius conuenitis i. Ye come not after a better maner, but after a worse. Yea,* 1.9 and it is a communion to (said he) when they come together. Now draweth on the time (quoth hee) that I must depart from you to the Court, to saye Masse before the Queene, and must signifie vnto her in what case I finde you, and me thinke I finde you sore seduced. Then I sayd, I pray you report the best, for I trust you finde me not obstinate. What shall I say are ye content to heare Masse,* 1.10 and to receaue the sacrament in the Masse? I beseeche you, sayd I, signifie vnto her Maiestie, that I am neither obstinate, nor stub∣burne, for time and perswasion may altar me, but as yet my cō∣science is such, that I can neither heare Masse, nor receaue the sacrament after that sort, Thus after certaine requestes made to the Queenes Maiestie concerning other matters, he departed.
The next daye hee came to me agayne and brought with him S. Cyprians woorkes, for so I had required him to doe the day before, because I woulde see his sermon De mortalitate. He had in thys booke turned in and interlyned certaine places both concerning the Church and the sacrament which he wil∣led me to read. I read as much as my time would serue, and at his next cōming I sayd that I was wholy of Cyp••ians mynd, in the matter of the Sacrament. Doctour Weston and Doctour Mallet came after to me, whome I aunswered muche after that sorte as I did the other. Doctour Weston brought in the place of Ciprian, Panis iste non effigie sed natura mutatus. &c. I asked of him how natura was taken in the Conuocation house in the disputation, vpon the place of Theodoret.
To be short Doctour Bourne came often vnto me, and I al∣wayes sayde vnto him that I was not minded nor able to dis∣pute in matters of Religiō, but I beleued as the holy Catholick Church of Christ, grounded vpon the Prophetes and Apostles doth beleue, and namely in the matter of the Sacrament, as the holy fathers Cyprian and Augustine do write and beleued, and this aunswere and none other they had of me in effecte, what wordes soeuer haue bene spread abroad of me that I should be conformable to all thinges &c. The trueth is,* 1.11 I neither heard Masse nor receaued the sacrament during the time of my im∣prisonment.
One time he willed me to be confessed. I sayd I am content. We kneeled downe to pray together in a windowe. I beganne without Benedicite, desiring him not to looke at my hand for any superstitious particular enumeration of my sinnes There∣with he was called away to the Coūcell, & ego liberatus Thus muche I beare onely for my life, as God knoweth. If in this I haue offended any Christian, from the bottome of my hart I aske them forgeuenes. I trust God hath forgeuen me, who kno∣weth that I durst neuer deny him before men, least he shoulde deny me before his heauenly father.
Thus haue I left behinde me written with myne own hand the effect of all the talke, especially of the worst that euer I graunted vnto, to the vttermost I can remember, as (God kno∣weth) all the whole communication I haue not written, for it were both to long and to foolish so to doe. Now I beseche the liuing God which hath receiued me to his mercy and brought to passe that I dye steadfast and vndefiled in his trueth, at vtter defiaunce and detestation of all Papisticall and Antichristian doctrine, I beseech him (I say) to keepe and defend al his chosen for his names sake, from the tyranny of the Byshop of Rome