vnction in my doctrine, whether it were a Sacra∣ment or no.
8 Thou false heretike saidest, that holye water is not so good as washe, and suche like. Thou condemnest coniuring, and sayest that holy Churches cursings auaile not.
My Lordes, as for holy water, what strengthe it is of, I taught neuer in my doctrine. Coniuringes and Exor∣cismes, if they were conformable to the woorde of God, I would commend them: but in so much as they are not con∣formable to the commaundement and woord of God, I re∣prooue them.
9 Thou false heretike and runnagate hast sayde, that euery lay man is a priest, and suche like. Thou sayest, that the Pope hathe no more power, then any other man.
My Lordes, I taught nothyng but the worde of God, I remember that I haue read in some places in S. Iohn and S. Peter, of the which one sayth: He hath made vs kings and priests. The other sayeth: Hee hath made vs a kingly priest∣hood. Wherefore I haue affirmed that any man being cun∣ning in the woorde of God, & the true faith of Iesu Christ, hath his power geuen him from God, and not by the po∣wer or violence of men, but by the vertue of the woorde of God, the which woord is called the power of God, as wit∣nesseth S. Paule euidently enough. And againe, I say that any vnlearned man, not exercised in the worde of God, nor yet constant in his faith, what so euer estate or order hee be of, I say, he hath no power to binde or loose, seeing he wan∣teth the instrument, by the which he bindeth or looseth, that is to say, the woorde of God.
After that he had sayd these wordes, all the Byshoppes laughed, & mocked him. When that he behelde their laugh∣ing, Laugh yee (sayeth he) my Lordes? Though that these sayings appeare scornefull and worthy of derision to your Lordships, neuertheles they are very waighty to me, and of a great value, because they stand not only vpon my life, but also the honour and glory of God. In the meane time many godly men beholding the woodnes and great crude∣litie of the Bishops, and the inuincible patience of maister George, did greatly mourne and lament.
10 Thou false heretike saidest, that a man hath no free wil. But is like to the Stoikes, which say, that it is not in mans will to doe any thing, but that all concupiscence & desire commeth of God, what soeuer kinde it be of.
My Lordes, I saide not so, truely, I say, that as many as beleeue in Christe firmely, vnto them is geuen libertie, conformable to the saying of S. Iohn: If the sonne make you free, then shall ye verely be free. Of the contrary, as many as beleue not in Christ Iesu, they are bond seruants of sinne: He that sinneth, is bond to sinne.
11 Thou false heretike sayest, it is as lawfull to eate flesh vpon the friday, as on sonday.
Pleaseth it your Lordshippes, I haue read in the Epi∣stles of S. Paule, that who is cleane, vnto him all thyngs are cleane. Of the contrary, to the filthy men all things are vncleane. A faithful man cleane and holy, sanctifieth by the woorde, the creature of God. But the creature maketh no manne acceptable vnto God. So that a creature may not sanctifie any impure and vnfaithful man. But to the faith∣full man, all things are sanctified by the praier of the word of God. After these sayings of master George, then said all the Bishops wyth theyr complices: what needeth vs any witnesse against him? hath he not openly here spoken bla∣sphemie?
12 Thou false heretike doest say, that wee shoulde not praye to Saintes, but to God onely. Say whether thou hast sayd this, or no: say shortly.
For the weakenes and the infirmitie of the hearers, he said without doubt plainly, that Saints should not be ho∣noured. My Lordes (sayde hee) there are two things wor∣thy of note. The one is certaine, the other vncertayne. It is found plainly and certaine in Scripture, that we should worship and honor one God, according to the saying of the first Commaundement: Thou shalt only worship and ho∣nour thy Lord God, with all thy heart. But as for praying to, and honouring of Saintes, there is great doubt among many, whether they hear or no, inuocation made vnto thē. Therefore I exhorted all men equally in my doctrine, that they shoulde leaue the vnsure waye, and folowe that way, which was taught vs by our master Christ. He is our on∣ly mediatour, and maketh intercession for vs to God hys father. He is the doore by the which we must enter in. Hee that entreth not in by this doore, but climeth an other way, is a theefe and murtherer. Hee is the veritie and lyfe. Hee that goeth out of this way, there is no doubte but hee shall fall into the mire: yea verely, is fallen into it already. This is the fashion of my doctrine, the whych I haue euer follo∣wed. Uerely that whyche I haue hearde and reade in the woorde of God; I taught openly, and in no corners. And now ye shal witnes the same, if your Lordships will heare me. Except it stande by the worde of God, I dare not be so bold to affirme any thinge. These sayings he rehearsed di∣uers times.
13 Thou false heretike haste preached plainly, saying that there is no Purgatorie, and that it is a fained thinge, any man after thys life to be punished in Purgatorie.
My Lordes, as I haue oftentimes sayde heeretofore, without expresse witnesse and testimonie of the Scripture, I dare affirme nothyng. I haue ofte and diuers times read ouer the Bible, and yet suche a terme founde I neuer, nor yet any place of Scripture applicable therunto. Ther∣fore I was ashamed euer to teache of that thyng, whych I coulde not finde in the Scripture. Then sayd he to master Iohn Lauder hys accuser: If you haue any testimonie of the Scripture, by the which ye may prooue any such place, shewe it nowe before this auditorie. But this dolt had not a worde to say for him selfe, but was as dumbe as a beetle in that matter.
14 Thou false heretike hast taught plainly against the vowes of Monkes, Friers, Nunnes, and Priestes, saying: that whosoeuer was bounde to such like vowes, they vowed themselues to the estate of damnation: Moreouer, that it was lawful for priestes to marry wiues, and not to liue sole.
Of soothe (my Lordes) I haue read in the Euangell, that there are three kindes of chaste men. Some are gelded from their mothers wombe: some are gelded by men: and some haue gelded themselues, for the kingdome of heauen sake. Uerelye I say, these men are blessed by the Scripture of God. But as many as haue not the gift of chastitie, nor yet for the Euangell, haue not ouercome the concupiscence of the flesh, and haue vowed chastitie: yee haue experience, although I should holde my peace, to what inconuenience they haue vowed them selues.
When he had sayde these wordes, they were all dumbe, thinking better to haue tenne Concubines, then one mar∣ried wife.
15 Thou false heretike and runnagate sayest, thou wylte not obey our Generall, nor Prouinciall Councels.
My Lords, what your general Councels are, I knowe not, I was neuer exercised in them: but to the pure worde of God I gaue my labors. Read here your general Coun∣cels, or els geue me a booke wherin they are contained, that I may reade them. If they agree with the word of God, I will not disagree. Then the rauening wolues turned into woodnes, & said. Wherefore let we him speake any further? Reade forth the rest of the articles, & stay not vpō them. A∣mong these cruell tygers, there was one false hypocrite, a seducer of the people, called Ioh. Graifind Scot, standing behind Ioh. Lauders backe, hasting him to read the rest of ye articles, & not to tary vpō his witty and godly answers: For we may not abide them, quoth he, no more then the di∣uill may abide the signe of the Crosse, when it is named.
16 Thou heretike sayest, that it is vaine to builde to the honor of God, costly Churches, seeinge that God remaineth not in the Churches made with mens handes, nor yet God can be in so litle space, as betwixt the priests handes.
My Lordes, Salomon sayeth: If that the heauen of heauens can not comprehende thee, howe muche lesse thys house, that I haue builded? And Iob consenteth to ye same sentence: Seeing that he is higher then the heauens, there∣fore what canst thou build vnto him? He is deper then hel, then how shalt thou know him? He is longer then ye earth, and broader then the sea. So that God cannot be compre∣hēded into one place, because that he is infinite. These say∣ings notwithstanding, I said neuer that Churches should be destroyed. But of the contrarye I affirmed euer, that Churches should be sustained and vpholden, that the peo∣ple should be congregated into them, there to hear of God. And moreouer, wheresoeuer is true preaching of the word of God, and the lawfull vse of the Sacraments, vndoub∣tedly there is God himselfe. So that both these sayings are true together: God cannot be cōprehended into any place, and where soeuer are two or three gathered in hys name, there is he present in the middest of them. Then sayde he to hys accuser, If you thinke any otherwise then I say, shew foorth your reasons before this auditorie. Then he without al reason being dumbe, and not answering one word, pro∣ceeded foorth in hys articles.
17 Thou false heretike contemnest fastinge, and sayest, thou shouldest not fast.
My Lordes, I finde that fasting is commended in the Scrypture: therefore I were a sclaunderer of the Go∣spell, if I contemned fastynge. And not so onely, but I haue learned by experience, that fastinge is good for the health of the bodye: but God knoweth who fasteth the true fast.
18 Thou false heretike haste preached openlye, sayinge that