Finally, they protested, that they woulde in no poynte be stubborne, but if that their forefathers or they had erred many one iote concerning true religion, the same beynge proued by the woord of God, they would willingly yeelde, and be reformed.
The interrogatories, were concerning the Masse, auri∣cular confession, baptisme, mariage, and burials, according to the institution of the Church of Rome.
To the first they aunsweared, that they receyued the Lordes supper, as it was by him instituted, and celebrated by his Apostles: but as touching the masse, except the same might be prooued by the word of God, they would not re∣ceiue it.
To the second touching auricular confession, they said, that for their parte, they confessed them selues daily vnto God, acknowledging them selues before him, to be mise∣rable sinners, desiring him of pardone and forgeuenesse of their sinnes, as Christe instructed his, in the prayer which he taught them: Lord, forgeue vs our sinnes. And as S. Iohn sayeth: If we confesse our sinnes to God, hee is faithfull and iust to forgeue vs our sinnes, and to cleanse vs from all vnrighteous∣nesse. And according to that which God him selfe sayeth by his Prophet: O Israel, if thou returne, returne vnto me. And againe, O Israel, it is I, it is I, which forgeeueth thee thy sinnes. So that, seeing they ought to returne to God alone, and it is he only that forgeueth sinnes, therfore they were bound to confesse them selues to God onely, and to no other. Also it appeareth, that Dauid in his Psalmes, and ye Prophets, and other faithfull seruaunts of God haue confessed them∣selues, both generally and particularly vnto God alone: Yet if the contrary might be prooued by the woord of God, they woulde (say they) wyth all humblenesse receiue the same.
Thirdly, as touching Baptisme, they acknowledged and receiued that holy Institution of Christe, and admini∣stred the same with all simplicitie, as hee ordeined it in his holy Gospell, without any chaunging, adding, or dimini∣shing in any poynt, & that all this they did in their mother tongue, according to the rule of S. Paul, who willeth that in the church euery thing to be done in the mother tongue, for the edification of our neighbor. But as for their coniu∣rations, oyling, and salting, except the same might be pro∣ued by the sacred Scripture, they would not receiue them.
Fourthly, as touching burialles, they aunswered, that they knewe there is a difference betwene the bodies of the true Christians, and the Infidels, for asmuch as the firste are the mēbers of Iesus Christ, temples of the holy ghost, and partakers of the glorious resurrectiō of the dead, and therefore they accustomed to folow their dead to the graue reuerently, with a sufficient company, and exhortation out of the woorde of God, as well to comfort the parentes and frendes of the dead, as also to admonish all men, diligent∣ly to prepare them selues to die. But as for the vsing of candles or lightes, praiers for the dead, ringing of belles, except ye same might be proued to be necessary, by the word of God, and that God is not offended therwith, they wold not receiue them.
Fifthly, as touching obedience to mennes traditions, they receiued and allowed all those ordinances, which (as S. Paule sayth) serue for order, decencie, & reuerence of the Ministerie. But as for other Ceremonies, which haue bin brought into the Churche of God, either as a parte of his diuine seruice, either to merite remission of sinnes, or els to binde mens consciences, because they are mere repugnant to the word of God, they could by no means receiue them.
And whereas the Commissioners affirmed the sayde traditions to haue ben ordeined by councels: first they an∣sweared, that the greatest part of them were not ordeined by councels. Secondly, that Councels were not to be pre∣ferred aboue the woorde of God, which saith: If any man, yea or Angell from heauen, shoulde preache vnto you, otherwise then that which hath bene receiued of the Lorde Iesus, let him be ac∣cursed. And therefore (said they) if Councels haue ordained any thing dissenting from the woorde of God, they woulde not receiue it.
Finally, they said, that the Councels had made diuers notable decrees concerning the election of Bishoppes, and Ministers of the Church: concerning Ecclesiasticall disci∣pline, as wel of the Cleargie, as of the people: also concer∣ning the distribution of the goodes and possessions of the Church. And further, that all pastours which were eyther whoremongers, drunkardes, or offensiue in any case, shuld be put from their office. Moreouer, that whosoeuer should be present at the masse of a priest which was a whoremon∣ger, should be excōmunicate. And many such other things, which wer not in any point obserued. And that they omit∣ted to speake of many other thinges, whith were ordained by diuers Councels, very superstitious, and cōtrary to the holy Commaundements of God, as they would be ready to prooue (said they) if they should haue occasion and opor∣tunitie thereunto.
Wherefore they required the Commissioners, that a disputation might be had (as by the sayde President was pretended) publiquely and in their presence, and then if it might be prooued by the woorde of God, that they erred ei∣ther in doctrine, or conuersation and maner of liuing, they were content, with all humblenesse to be corrected, and re∣fourmed, as they had before sayde: beseeching them to con∣sider also that their religion had ben obserued & kept from their auncitours, vntill their time, many hundred yeares together: and yet for their partes, being conuicted by the infallible woord of God, they would not obstinately stande to the defence therof: Saying moreouer, that they, togither with the said Lordes Deputies, confessed all one God, one Sauiour, one Holy Ghost, one Lawe, one Baptisme, one hope in Heauen: and in Summe, they affirmed that their faith and religion was firmly founded and groūded vpon the pure woord of God, wherefore it is sayd, That blessed are they which heare the same, and keepe it.
To be short, seeing it is permitted to the Turkes, Sa∣razens, & Iewes (which are mortall ennemies to our Sa∣uiour Christe) to dwell peaceablye in the fairest Cities of Christendome, by good reason they should be suffred to liue in the desolate mountaines & valleis, hauing their whole religion ••ounded vpon the holy Gospel, and worshipping the Lord Iesus: and therefore they most humbly besought them, to haue pitie and compassion vpon them, and to suf∣fer them to liue quietly in their deserts, protesting that they and theirs would liue in al feare & reuerence of God, with all due subiection and obedience to their Lord and prince, and to his Lieutenants and officers.
The President and the rest of the Commissioners per∣ceiuing that they laboured in vaine, returned to Thurin, with the notes of their proceedings, the which immediatly were sent vnto the kings court, & there the matter remai∣ned one yeare, before there was any answeare made there∣unto: during which time, the Waldoys liued in great qui∣etnes, as God of his infinit goodnes is wont to geue some comfort & refreshing to his poore seruants, after long trou∣bles and afflictions. The number of the faithfull so aug∣mented, that throughout the valleis, Gods woorde was purely preached, & his sacraments duely administred, and no mas••e was song in Angrōgne, nor in diuers other pla∣ces. The yere after, the President of S. Iulian with his as∣sociates, returned to Pigneroll, & sent for thither, the chiefe Rulers of Angrongne, & of the valley of Luserne, that is, for sixe of Angrongne, and for two of euery parish besides, and shewed vnto them, how that the last yere they had pre¦sented their confession, the which by a decree made by the parliament of Thurin, was sent to the kings court, & ther diligently examined by learned men, & condemned as he∣reticall. Therfore the king willed and commaunded them, to returne to the obedience of the Church of Rome, vppon paine of losse both of goods and life: enioyning them more∣ouer, to geue him a direct aunswere within 3. daies. From thence he went to Luserne, & caused the housholders, with great threatnings to assemble them selues before certaine by him appoynted: but they with one assent persisted in their former confession. And least they should seeme stub∣bern in the defence of any erroneous doctrine, they desired that their confession might be sent to all the Uniuersities of Christendom, and if the same in any part, by the word of God were disproued, it should be immediately amended: but contrariwise, if that were not done, then they to be no more disquieted.
The President not contēted with this, the next morning sent for sixe of Angrongne by him named, & for two out of euery other parish, the which he and the Gentlemenne of the country threatned very sore, and warned twelue of the chiefe of Angrongne, and certaine of the other parishes, to appeare personally at the Parliament of Thurine, and to bring before the Iudges of the said Parliament, their mi∣nisters and scholemaisters, thinking if they were once ba∣nished the countrey, that then their enterprise might soone be brought to an ende. To the which it was aunsweared, that they could not, nor ought not to obey such a comman∣dement.
A litle while after, Proclamation was made in euery place, that no man shoulde receiue any preacher comming from Geneua, but onely suche as were appoynted by the Archbishop of Thurin, and other his officers, vpon paine of confiscation of their goodes, and losse of their liues, and