the seate due to God. Secondly, the honour due to the king. Wherof the first is, the feare of God (he sayeth) consisteth in three things. 1. In geuing to God. 2. In honoring his ministers. 3. In restoring that, which hath bene taken away. &c. The 2. which is, the honouring of the king, he sayeth, consisteth in a double sort, that is. In wordes onely, wherein is flattery: And in deede: which againe he deuideth in 4. members: First, when a man cousaileth a king to that, whereby his dominion is loued. 2. When the king is counsailed to that whereby his honour and excellencie is not di∣minihed. 3. Thirdly, when the king is counsailed to that, where∣by his fame and renowne is maintained. 4. Fourthly, when a king is counsailed to that, wherby his conscience is not wounded. &c. And this is the order of his whole tractation. Nowe remayneth with like breuity to recite the reasons and argumentes in order, whereby he proueth the premisses, with the subdiuision of euery member and part thereof. Wherein the studious reader, may note both the subtile proceedings of these popish prelates, and also the feeble and impotent ground whereupon they build. Whose buil∣ding (as by this discourse and many other may appeare) wholy & finally tendeth to this, to maintaine their liberties, pompe, and e∣stimation aboue all other secular princes and persons.
First, as concerning feare to be geuen to God, which hee de∣uideth in 3. partes, in geuing, in honouring and restoring: for the first, hee proueth that princes ought to geue largely and wythout measure to the Church by these arguments.
By the testimonie of Iustinian: although nothing is good whych is too much, yet. &c. pag. 361. col. 2. I aunswere that in the time of Iustinian, goodes then geuen to the Churche, were the goodes of the poore. Wherein was vsed faithfull distribution, vo∣luntarie geuing, and necessary charitie. But nowe in our Popish Churches, reuenues and landes geuen, neither are distributed to the poore: and yet are men compelled against their will to geue still. And againe, so little necessitie is nowe to geue to such, that the most wealthes of Realmes almost is in their handes and hou∣ses: in so much that they flowing in such wealth, are nowe waxed so proude, that kinges can scarse beare any rule for them, as was prooued before, pag. 3 30. col. 2. that the Popes reuenues heere in England, mounted to more then three times double the stint of the kings crowne. Wherefore by the counsaile of Iustinian, it was so then, and then myght stand, quòd Religio peperit diuitias: But nowe as the time is altered, so that counsaile holdeth not, postquam nunc filia deuor auit matrē. That is, after that the daugh∣ter hath deuoured the mother. Finally concerning mens geuing to the Church in these our popish daies, foure faultes I note.
First, that they geue superfluously more then sufficient is to necessitie of life.
Secondly, that they geue to such as abuse it wickedly.
Thirdly, that in geuing to them that neede not, noble men in meane time defraude their poore neighbors, which nede in dede, and yet doe not complaine.
Fourthly, because of thys title of geuing, men haue vsed, and yet doe vse to put great hope of saluation therein, contrary to the Testament of God in Christes death, whereof examples are before.
Pag. 361. col. 2. Abel offered of the best to the Lorde, and was blessed of God. Ergo, euery great man, that woulde be blessed of God, must offer of the best he hath vnto the Church. Aunswere. This argument as it is farre fet: so it is soone answered, wherein 3. notes are to be obserued.
First, that he which offereth vnto the church of God, doth not therein offer vnto God immediatly as Abel did.
Secondly, neither is this to be graunted, that hee which offe∣reth to all Churchmen, offereth by and by to the Church of God. For many times the Churchmen are one: and the Church of God is an other. Laurence the Martyr shewing forth the church of god, brought out the poore of the Parishe, and not of the priestes of the Church. Pag. 72. col. 1.
The thirde note is this: that if noble persons should offer vn∣to God (by the example of Abel) that which is the best and fattest of the flocke: then should they offer vnto the Lord, of their flocke onely, and not of their landes. Yea, and to note the very truth, they are taught thereby to offer to God, neither cattel nor landes, but that which is the very best, that is, their owne bodies for a liuely sacrifice to God. Hee that offerd vp to God a proude heart, and killed it with the axe of humilitie, geueth vnto him the best and fattest bullocke he hath in all his flocke. With like reason I aun∣swere also the place of Numeri. 18. and of Paral. cap. vlt. that to of∣fer vp, or to seperate vnto the Lordes treasurie, is not nowe to geue to Priestes and Chaplaines of the Churche, whyche perad∣uenture haue more then they doe well occupie: but to giue libe∣rally to the communion of Sainctes, which are needy, and are the true treasurie of the Church in deede, as Laurence the true trea∣surer sayd, supra, pag. 72,
Pag. 362 col. 1. By Gods commaundement we are bound of duetie to honour our temporall fathers. Ergo, by the same duety we are bounde much rather to honour our spirituall fathers, that is Priestes and Prelates. Aunswere. A father in common speche is diuersly taken, as by age, by nature, by office. And to al these we of duety, are bound to yeeld honour, reuerence, obedience sub∣mission, all be it not all after one sort, nor in like degree. For as we are bound to honour our father and mothers: so aged men & elders haue also their honour and name of fathers So Magistrates and spirituall teachers in their kinde, haue their honour and re∣uerence. And S. Paule sayeth, that such are worthy of double ho∣nour, qui benè praesunt, & qui laborant in sermone. But in thys two thyngs are to be noted, wherein this honour consisteth, and howe farre it extendeth. These spirituall fathers of the Churche, thinke they be not honoured inough, vnlesse Kings and Emperors geue and surrender vnto them all the temporall rule & gouerne∣ment, to doe what they list, and none to controll them. And vn∣lesse noble men and subiects indue them wyth temporall landes and possessions, so much as they woulde haue. And this they call honour, which they define onely by geuing temporally: where in deede it rather consisteth in geuing spiritually, as to haue a re∣uerent opinion of their ministration, to yeld a prompt obedience to their doctrine, to reuerence them as the ministers of God, and not to despise, defame, or molest their persones, whereof S. Paule also about the same place speaketh, wryting to Timothe. Let no man despise thy youth. &c. Also to Titus 2. Let no man despise thee. &c. And this is to honour our spirituall fathers.
Secondly, to consider howe farre this honour extendeth: as no man doeth denie, but these pastours are worthy their double honour, which rule wel: so if they administer not their office wel, they are vnder the ouersighte of the king, bearing the Temporall sworde, worthy of double punishment. And yet to consider thys double honour in them that rule well, howe farre it doth extend: if it be compared to the honour due to our parentes, case of ne∣cessitie will soone decide it. For be it, that our parentes, on the one side, and pastour of the other, stande in extreeme neede of the sonnes supportation, wherein he can helpe but the one: nature, I suppose, will and ought sooner runne, and the word of Christ will sooner driue vs to our father, then to the Priests Corban. Marc. 7. So that this distinction here may haue place: that as the one stan∣deth vpon merite of vertue, so the other standeth vpon mere due∣ty of necessitie.
Pag. 362. col. 1. These iurisdictions temporall and spiritual are compatible in one persone. Aunswere. I graunt pro ratione sub∣iects. That is, in the subiect it selfe there is no cause to the contra∣ry, but these vocations may be exercised both of one persone, as they haue beene of the Pope, one after the other (and so may contrary formes also) and yet the Popes persone hath bene able to sustaine them both. But now here is to be considered, not what the nature of the subiecte is able to beare by Logicke, but what order is taken heerein by the will of God, whose order is thys: That they, which with Peter, are called to the feeding of the flock, shoulde leaue their fishing nettes, and fishe for men: and that they which labour in the warfare of the Lord, should not intangle thē∣selues with the busines of this life, wherby they may be more free to please him, whose souldiours they are. Tit. 2, &c.
Pag. 362. col. 1. The iurisdictions temporall and spirituall, are so distincted that they are not contrary. &c. Aunswer. And what let is there then, but our Queene nowe, and other kings heereaf∣ter may haue the gouernement of both states, as well Ecclesiasti∣call as temporall? Seeing both the formes being compatible, may concurre both in one subiect: why not as well in the persone of the King, within the Realme, as in the person of the Pope without the Realme?
Pag. 363 col. 1. God after the creation of the world, &c. vnto Noes time: &c. Aunswere. If God vnto Noes time gouerning the worlde as king, gaue sentence himselfe against Caine (as yee say) howe then did he that by the ministerie of aungels? If he did it by the aungels his ministers: Whether is more like then that to make for the Pope, or rather for kings and princes, whom the Scripture thrise in one chapter, calleth the ministers of God to execute pu∣nishment to him, that doth euill. Rom. 13.
Pag. 363. Noe also which offered. &c. Aunswere. If offering of burnt sacrifices to God doe make a priest, then was Caine also, Abell, Abraham, Isaac, and all Patriarches priests. If hee had both temporall and spirituall iurisdiction vppon them, which were in his Arke: I maruell why hee did not curse ••hen the disobedyent crowe that returned not to him againe.
Pag. 363. col. 1, Melchisedech likewise. &c. Answere. Melchi∣sedech properly did beare a figure of Christ, both king and priest, and of none other.
Pag. 363. col. 2. A. I haue geuen to me. &c. Aunswere. That Christ hath all power geuen him, no man doubteth: but yet the same Christ sayth, that his kingdome is not of this world. Neither would he be made a king in this worlde. &c. Non eripit mortalia, qui regna dat caelestia, hym.
Pag. 363. col. 1. B. Whom Christ made his vicar. &c. Answere. Here in one line bee two lies. For neither had Peter the very same power in heauen and earth as Christ had, neyther was hee the vi∣car of Christ.
Pag. 363. col. 1. C. As the offence of Ananias and Saphira