Certain discourses, viz. of Babylon (Rev. 18. 4.) being the present See of Rome (with a sermon of Bishop Bedels upon the same words) of laying on of hands (Heb. 6. 2.) to be an ordained ministry, of the old form of words in ordination, of a set form of prayer : each being the judgment of the late Arch-bishop of Armagh, and Primate of Ireland / published and enlarged by Nicholas Bernard ... : unto which is added a character of Bishop Bedel, and an answer to Mr. Pierces fifth letter concerning the late Primate.
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Certain discourses, viz. of Babylon (Rev. 18. 4.) being the present See of Rome (with a sermon of Bishop Bedels upon the same words) of laying on of hands (Heb. 6. 2.) to be an ordained ministry, of the old form of words in ordination, of a set form of prayer : each being the judgment of the late Arch-bishop of Armagh, and Primate of Ireland / published and enlarged by Nicholas Bernard ... : unto which is added a character of Bishop Bedel, and an answer to Mr. Pierces fifth letter concerning the late Primate.
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"Certain discourses, viz. of Babylon (Rev. 18. 4.) being the present See of Rome (with a sermon of Bishop Bedels upon the same words) of laying on of hands (Heb. 6. 2.) to be an ordained ministry, of the old form of words in ordination, of a set form of prayer : each being the judgment of the late Arch-bishop of Armagh, and Primate of Ireland / published and enlarged by Nicholas Bernard ... : unto which is added a character of Bishop Bedel, and an answer to Mr. Pierces fifth letter concerning the late Primate." In the digital collection Early English Books Online. https://name.umdl.umich.edu/A64635.0001.001. University of Michigan Library Digital Collections. Accessed May 18, 2025.
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The PRIMATES judgment
of the Vse of a set Form of
Prayer, heretofore declared,
and now more fully enlarged,
and confirmed; with the con∣currence
of the Votes of such
eminent persons who are so
esteemed by the contrary-min∣ded.
THis Subject hath been so
sufficiently discussed and
determined by others, that
no new thing can be expected
from me, onely you have here
the Iudgement and Approbation
of this eminent Primate, which
being of so great esteem with all
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good men; 'tis possible now up∣on
near an even scale of mens
opinions in it, his may be of that
weight, as to give satisfaction.
First, that the Vse of a set
Form of Prayer, is not a setting up
of any new doctrine, as the Athe∣nians
judged of Saint Paul, ap∣peares
in that 'tis the practise of
the Belgick Churches, for which
ye have the determination of the
Divines of Leyden, Polyander,
Rivetus, Wala'us, Thy∣sius;
in theira 1.1Synop∣sis
Theologiae: And the
resolution of Mr. Aimes
our countryman (who
lived and died a Pro∣fessor
of Divinity a∣mong
them) in his cases
of conscience, who saith,
'tisb 1.2lawfull from the
approved practice of the
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Saints in the Psalmes, and other
Formes of blessing in the Scrip∣ture;
nay profitable and necessary
for some, though it be read out of
a book.
Then for the judgement and
practice accordingly of the Re∣formed
Church of France, Ludo∣vicus
Capellus gives us a suffici∣ent
account of (who is Pro∣fessor
of Divinity in the Uni∣versity
of Somer) in one of
his Theses lately pub∣lished,
de Liturgiae formulis concep∣tis,
or a set form of a Li∣turgie,
where after hee hath
answered all the pretended ar∣guments
against it, which it
seemes he had gleaned up out
of some of our English Writers
of late, he concludesa 1.3 that
'tis very necessary both for the most
learned Pastors and congregati∣ons,
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as unlearned; and the edifi∣cation
of both, being used through∣out
the Christian world in all a∣ges,
at least for these 1300 years,
and is still at this day in all places,
excepting only (as he saith) some
of late with us in England, whose
censure of them •• is so severe, that
it would be offensive in me to re∣peat
it.
And surely the general custome
and practice of the reformed
Churches (which Saint Paul ur∣geth,
1 Cor. 11. 16. cap. 14. 33.)
cannot be contemned by any so∣ber
Christian, unto which may
be added, the judgement of di∣verse
pious and eminent men of
onr own nation, and so esteemed
by such as have asserted the con∣trary,
whose judgements being
too large to be inserted here, I
shall deferre them till the last,
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who do very fully concurre with
the Primate in it.
Calvin was a wise and learned
man, now as Beza tells us, it was
his constant practice to use a set
form of Praier before Sermon, with∣out
alteration; So was it his advice
in his Epistle to the Protector of
England, in Edward the sixth's
time, (which hath bin mentioned
elsewhere) for the establishing of
a set form of a Liturgy here, from
which it might not be lawfull for
pastors to depart, both for the good
of the more ignorant, preventing
of an affected novelty in others, and
the declaring of an unanimous con∣sent
in all the Churches. For which
practice and advice, he had suffi∣cient
warrant from the President
of the Ancient Fathers, in the
Primitive times, which might be
here also produced. And doubt∣lesse
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the councell of Eliphaz is
is good, Iob 8. Enquire I pray
thee of the former ages, and pre∣pare
thy selfe for the search of
their Fathers (for we are but of
yesterday, and know nothing;) shall
not they teach thee; &c. as that of
the Prophet Ieremiah (cap. 6.
19.) aske for the old way, and
walk therein; which may well re∣buke
the presumption of some,
who are so led by their own fan∣cies,
that the Ancient Fathers are
of no exemplary esteem with
them. Onely I may safely repre∣present
this to the consideration
of any ingenuous person; that
if it were the practice of the
Church of God in all ages for
1500 (or but 1300) yeares after
Christ, not only of the vulgar,
but of such as were glorious Mar∣tyrs,
and the most eminent Prea∣chers
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of former and later yeares,
with whom the holy spirit did
much abound, doth not the asser∣tion
of the contrary condemn the
generation of the just, or at least
argue a bold presumptuous cen∣sure
of the spirits of just men now
made perfect in heaven. This on∣ly
by way of preparative to the
Readers attention, that there is
no singularity in it.
2. See the warrants for it in
the Scripture, i. e. in the Old
Testament: (Numb. 6. 23.) the
Lord gives a form of words to
Aaron, and his sons, to be conti∣nued
as a perpetual Liturgy from
age to age, for the blessing the
children of Israel, saying unto them,
the Lord blesse thee, and keep thee,
the Lord make his face to shine up∣on
thee, and be gracious unto thee;
the Lord lift up his countenance
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upon thee, and give thee peace, &c.
Numb. 10. 35. Moses gives himself
a set form, at the rising and rest∣ing
of the Ark. When the Ark
set forward, Moses said, Rise up
Lord, and let thine enemies be
scattered, and let them that hate
thee, flee before thee; And when
it rested, he said, return O Lord
unto the many thousands of Israel.
Continued by David at the re∣movall
of the Ark in his time,
Psal. 68. 1. In the 26. of Deut.
ye have two set formes prescri∣bed
of God himself. First, to
him that offers his first fruits,
verse 3. thou shalt say unto the
Priest, &c. verse 5. thou shalt
speak, and say before the Lord
thy God, &c. consisting chiefly
of confession to the 11. verse,
and then to him that offers his
third years tythes. verse 13. when,
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after a solemne protestation of
bringing all the hollowed things,
paying his Tythes truly, with∣out
diminution, or alienation, he
is prescribed to say this prayer,
before the Lord his God, verse
15. Look down from thy holy ha∣bitation
from heaven, and blesse
thy people Israel; and the Land
which thou hast given us, as thou
swearest, &c.
The book of Psalmes, some
consisting of Petitions, some of
Confession, some of praises, (the
several parts of prayer) what was
the end of their composing and
collection, but as a Liturgy con∣teining
the severall formes fra∣med
by the Saints of God in se∣verall
ages, and accordingly con∣tinued,
and used in the Temple,
and Synagogues upon severall
times, and occasions; As that for
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the Sabbath-day in speciall by the
Title of it (Psal. 92.) as Moses
prayer was preserved for the use
of the Church (Psal. 90.) to
Davids time, so was his, and o∣thers,
after the captivity to our
Saviours time, some were used
to begin the service with; some
to end it; some before the reading
of the Law, and Prophets, some
between them and before the ex∣positions
of either, (as those who
have searched into those cu∣stomes
of theirs, tell us.)
Praise is the principall part of
prayer, and for that, how often
do you read of Set Forms used
by the most eminent Saints.
Moses after the delivery from
Pharaoh at the Red Sea, pennes
a set form of praise, for Myrian
(Exod. 15 1.) unto which that
of Rev. 15. relates where the
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Saints in heaven, are said to use
that form also; at the victory o∣ver
their enemies, they sang the
song of Moses (1 Chron. 16. ••7.)
Asaph and his Brethren had
forms delivered them by David,
to thank the Lord with, (verse
35.) say ye, save us O God of our
salvation, &c. (2 Chron. 7. 6.)
Solomon, at the dedication of the
Temple, observes that form which
was observed by his Father, prai∣sed
be the Lord, for his mercy en∣dureth
for ever; at which, (sig∣nifying
an acceptance of it) the
glory of the Lord filled the Temple,
(2 Chron. 29. 30.) Hezekiah cau∣sed
the Priests, and Levites, to
praise God in the words of David
and Asaph the Seer.
No doubt, but these worthy
reformers, Hezekiah, and Isaiah,
were able to have framed pray∣ers,
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and praises of their own; and
that suddenly, (as Hezekiah seems
to have done at a special occasi∣on
in the Temple, 1 Kings 19.
14. both of them 2 Chron. 32. 20.
in their private) but for the pub∣lick
setled constitutions, they
rather chose to use those Formes
which were used in the Church
many ages before in Davids time;
see then a respect to Antiqui∣ty,
not only in Doctrine, but in the
Forms of prayer framed by the
Saints before them. And surely
if it were pleasing unto God then,
according to the Counsell of the
Prophet Hoseah to the Israe∣lites
in their repentance, (cap.
14. 2. take to your selves words,
and say thus unto him?) why
should it not be now? he being
yesterday, and to day, and the sa••e
for ever. (Ezra 3. 10.) The like
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was observed after the Captivity,
at the repairing of the Tem∣ple,
when Ezra appointed the
Lord to be praised after the Or∣dinance
of David King of Israel.
So much for the Old Testament.
Now for the New Testament,
yee have a President for it;
(which is above all Presidents)
in our blessed Saviour, who gave
a form to his disciples, (Luke
11, 1.) When ye pray, say, not
only (as Matthew 6.) say after
this manner, or say thus; but
say this. In Saint Matthew, he
gives a form to the people, and
disciples together, which was be∣fore
he sent them forth to preach;
(for that was not, till cap. 10.)
In Saint Luke he gives his disci∣ples
a Form, after he had made
them preachers and Apostles, cap.
9. 1. and after the 72 were sent
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out also, cap. 10. 1. and both re∣turned
from preaching through
the Cities of Israel, see how both
people and Teachers are allowed a
set Form, and it seems Iohn Bap∣tist
had done the like by the
ground of their requests, Teach
us as John taught his disciples.
They were not then for New, and
different wayes from the Church
before, or coaetaneous with them,
but for a conformity, that it might
appear Iohn Baptist disciples, and
they were one Church, and one
body. A good example for us
to follow, not to ayme at a Sin∣gularity,
or a division between
other Churches, and us, but to
draw as near as we can to a Con∣junction
with them, in having one
heart, and one tongue. Seek not
wayes never before thought of,
but tread in the steps of the pre∣cedent
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times, as the Disciples did
here teach us, as Iohn taught
his.
And the Reconciling of the
Evangelists is easie, viz. It was
our Saviours mind, that it should
be both a rule for all other, and
said for a prayer also, and that
which is a rule for others, must
needs be in the highest degree so it
selfe. A Standerd for any measure,
dry or liquid, may be used for that
measure too; and so 'tis no contra∣diction,
that the Lords prayer
should be as the measure for other
prayers, and said for a prayer also.
And that it was so understood
by the Fathers in the Primitive
times; I shall onely represent
unto you some of the words of
Saint Cyprian in his Sermon up∣on
it, who lived about 250. years
after our Saviour: and died a
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Martyr. He exhorts the people
not to omit the use of the Lords
prayer with their other prayers, in
which he hath some such speeches
as these, surely thou art more
likely to obtein thy request; cum
qui habitat intus in pectore, ipse sit
in voce, when he that is in thy
heart, is also in thy tongue: How
can God but hear thee, when thou
comest in the words of his Sonne,
takest up the prayer sanctified by
his sacred mouth; If thou hast no
other prayer, use this; if thou hast
others, use this also, and urge
God daily in his own language; and
with the words of his beloved
Son. Like him that catched up
Alexander in his Armes to ap∣pease
his Father Phillips anger; so
saith he, take up Christ in thy
Armes, make him thy spokes-man,
by taking up his own words; (that
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is with right understanding, and
affection.) By these, and the like
expressions in that Father, may
be seen, what was the judgement
and practice of the Primitive
times, in relation to the use of
that form of the Lords prayer,
which the Divines ofa 1.4Leyden
do averre clearly, that without
controversy, the whole ancient
Church did alwayes observe it, not
as a Rule only, but a Form of
prayer. 'Tis one extremity to
make an absolute necessity of the
using it alwayes, and an other ex∣tremity
not to use it at all. Our
Church that in each service, at
least once owned it, as the prin∣cipall,
and parent of the rest, was
free from any vain repetition. So
much for the first thing observa∣ble
in our Saviours giving a form
to his disciples, which is a war∣rantable
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president for the Church
to do the like for her Mem∣bers.
2. Our Saviour gave himselfe
a form of words, Matth. 26. 44.
he went away the third time, and
prayed, saying the same words; it
was at three severall times, and
with some distance between each;
and which is more observable, it
was at his Passion. In afflictions
we are most apt for various ex∣pressions,
yet even then, he that
was the Wisdome of the Father,
and excelled in language, the
tongues of men, and Angels, and
could have abounded in the vari∣ety
of Elegancy, yet varied not
the phrase, but kept the same
words; surely it was for our ex∣ample,
and to teach us that pray∣er
consists not in words, but in
the earnestnesse of affection; let
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no man except against the use of
the same prayer twice; Our Savi∣our
used it thrice, and (as the A∣postle
saith) he was heard in what
he prayed, and 'tis the observation
of thea 1.5above-named, that our
Saviour observed a set form of
prayer upon the Crosse, used be∣fore
by David, (Psal. 22. 1.) as in
the Type, My God, my God, why
hast thou forsaken me (as those
words, Into thy hands I commend
my Spirit; are out of Psal. 31. 5.)
3. He doth not only prescribe
a form of words in prayer, but
in the Sacraments. 1. Baptisme.
(Mat. 28.) Go and Baptise them
in the name of the Father, of the
Son, and of the holy Ghost. Which
Form of words, the ancient
Church ever observed without
any variation, as containing
(with the Element of water) the
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matter and form of Baptisme, and
in the Lords Supper; the three E∣vangelists
give us his very words,
used by him in the Consecration
of it, and is commended to the
Church of Corinth by Saint Paul,
who received it from the Lord
also, and surely are to be accor∣dingly
used by us.
4. 'Tis observable how he
himself observed the set Formes,
used by the Jews at the Passover,
both in prayer and praises, see Be∣za
(on Matth. 26. 20.) and Ains∣worth
(on Exodus 12.) granting
it, and that the wod 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉, Iohn
16. ult. should be rendred; ha∣ving
sung the Hymnes or Psalms,
which they ••ay were a set portion
of Psalmes of praises (which the
Jewes call their great Hallelujah)
from the 113. Psalm to the 118.
as also divers others of our learn∣ed
And can that of the Apostle
(Col. 3. 16.) exhorting to praise
the Lord with Psalms and hymns,
and spiritual songs, imply any o∣ther
then a set form of words,
according to our custome, yet re∣tained
in singing of Psalms in the
congregation. And may not that
of our Saviour (Mat. 18.) Where
two or three of you shall agree toge∣ther,
touching any thing they shall
aske, &c. imply that a prayer,
composed by the consent and
unanimous agreement of the
Church, to be the more preva∣lent:
put all these together, and
are they not a Cloud of Witnesses,
at least to confirm, and support
the weaker sort in knowledge
and utterance, who though of sin∣cere
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hearts, yet cannot suddenly
poure forth their desires in fitting
expressions, worthy (as they con∣ceive)
the eares of Almighty God,
but must make use of the pennes,
and formes of others, or of what
they have premeditated, and fra∣med
to themselves; surely in
these, if their hearts be, (as they
may be) raised to a due height of
holy affection, God accepts of
them.
The necessary requisites to a
prayer, are such as these, That
the person be acceptable, that the
matter be good; that it be done
in the right manner (i. e. with un∣derstanding
with affection, and
that rightly ordered, and qualified)
and the end rightly terminated,
with a submission to Gods will,
for the time and measure, with the
like, which I cannot now insist
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upon. But I never heard of any
Divine that hath wrot of it, to
have put in this for one. viz.
That it must be suddenly poured
out, without premeditation of
matter, form, or method.
The common Objection is this,* 1.6
that a set form is a limiting, or a
stinting of the spirit in prayer,
which ought not to be.
First,* 1.7 this is but an unwrit∣ten
Tradition, for if the spirit
of a single Prophet in extraordi∣nary
gifts, must be limited in a sub∣jection
to the greater number of
the Prophets, (1 Cor. 14.) why
may not the spirit of a private
Minister in these ordinary gifts,
be limited by the vote and con∣sent
of the whole Ministery.
Secondly, see the ill consequen∣ces
of it. It must be appliable
against singing of Psalmes in the
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spirit, which Saint Paul puts to∣gether
with prayer, I will pray
with the spirit, and I will sing
with the spirit, (1 Cor. 14. 5.) di∣vers
of the Psalmes are prayers,
now if the set form of words in
them, be not an obstruction to
the making a spiritual melody in
your hearts to the Lord, why shall
it be a stop to the overflowings,
and enlargements of the heart,
and spirit, in prayer.
Again, it must be of the like
force against preaching in ••he spi∣rit,
that if it be premeditated, or
the Sermon be before composed, it
cannot be in the demonstration of
the spirit and power, nor have any
efficacious operation in the hear∣ers,
which is both against our
daily experience, and Solomons
Commendation of the Preacher,
(meaning it may be himself, Ec∣cles.
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12.) because he was wise, he
gave good heed, and sought out
fit words, and set them in order,
even words of truth.
If the spirit was not obstruct∣ed
in the pens of the Evangelists
writing their Gospels, or with the
Apostles in their several Epistles,
then; notwithstanding both were
done with labour, and studdy;
why should our labour accor∣dingly
in the word and doctrine,
by the pen or premeditation ex∣clude
it now: and if a set form
doth not stint the spirit either in
••inging, preaching, or writing of
holy things; why must it be so
injurious onely to the spirit of
prayer.
3. But thirdly, if a set form be
the stinting of the spirit, it must
be either in the speaker or hearer.
1. Not in the speaker, for his spi∣rit
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may be the more at liberty to
spirituall fervent enlargements,
when there is no obstruction, or
diversion by the work of the In∣vention
in inditing of matter, and
words, the unaptnesse, and un∣readinesse
unto which in many,
hath so disturbed them, and cau∣sed
them to wander into such
immethodicall impertinet wayes,
that they have been far from the
spirit of prayer.
2. Not in the hearers, for then
it must ever be so stinted, for
whether the speaker useth sud∣den,
or premeditated expressious,
(which they cannot judge of)
the hearers are alike bound to
mind what proceeds from his
lips, so that if the spirit be stint∣ed
with them in the latter, it is as
much in the former. For as the
judgment is the freer to say Amen
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by the fore-knowledge, and ap∣probation
of the prayer, so the spi∣rit
and affections are at an equall
freedom also; so that this obje∣ction
is of no value.
I shall onely put this to consi∣deration,
whether that mans heart
may be accounted most spiritual,
which can be daily enlarged, and
his affections lifted up in the use
of the same words, or which can∣not
without the help of a varie∣ty,
like those weak stomacks, or
distempered in their health, that
cannot relish one dish twice, but
must at each meale, have the in∣ventions
of men imployed to
give them various; nay, in danger
of losing their stomack, if they
hear of them before they come
suddenly before them; Now in this
I would not be understood, to
discourage any persons in exer∣cising
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themselves this way, and
striving to perfection in this gift,
which I do much commend; only
as those that learn to swim, have
help at first of some suppor∣ters,
but afterward come to
swim without them. Children at
first have their Copies, their paper
ruled, their hands held, but in
time do it of themselves, and so
there is an expectation, that you
that are of ability should grow in
knowledge and utterance this
way: but for the weaker sort, is
it not better they should use a
staffe then slip, and are not the
Major part of this kind, like men
with weak sights, needing the
help of Spectacles. To whom,
by denying them a set Form, are
we not injurious accordingly,
Though those we call weak,
may possibly, by their fervency,
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and ardency of affection be said
of, as Saint Paul of himself; when
I am weak, then am I strong, and
Gods strength perfected in their
weaknesse.
The prevalency of a pray∣er
being not in the elegancy
and loftinesse of the stile, but
in the sighes and groanes, and
inward workings of the heart,
like that of Nehemiah, and Han∣na,
though their voice were not
heard.
In a word, an Vniformity in the
publick prayers of the Church to
be observed in each congregati∣on,
would tend much to the uni∣ty
of hearts and spirits among us,
which Saint Paul commends as the
more excellent way, and the end
of coveting all gifts whatsoever,
viz. a Composure of a Form for the
publick service of God, by the
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joynt assistance of the most lear∣ned
and pious, from which, the
most eminent gifted person might
not depart, more then the infe∣riour.
I speak not of prayer be∣fore
Sermon and after, (when
each may take their liberty,
though therein the Dutch and
French Church are strict also) but
of some consent in the manner of
Administration of Baptisme, the
communion, and other offices in
the publick, that might be own∣ed
by us all in Common, as the
form of the Church of England,
which as it hath been a means to
continue a unity in other reformed
Churches at this day; so I believe
would be a means for the redu∣cing
it with us, even a setled
peace both in Church and State;
which ought to be the prayer
and principall endeavour of every
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good Christian. So much for the
declaring and confirming the
Primates Iudgment of the use of
a set form of prayer in the pub∣lick.
Now unto his, for the more ea∣sie
reception of it, I shall here
adde the votes of some, whom the
contrary minded (at least the most
pious of them) will not gainsay.
I shall not mention the judge∣ment
and practice of the worthy
Ministers and Martyrs in Queen
Maries dayes; some of whom
were put to death for approving,
and using the ••orm which was
then extant, being one of the
a 1.8Articles put in against them.
Of these it will be said, they
walked according to the light then
given them; I shall therefore
trouble the Reader onely with a
few testimonies of godly and emi∣nent
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men, who lived within our
own memory; some of them rec∣koned
among the Non-conformists,
or old Puritanes, yet in this par∣ticular
fully concurring with the
Primate.
Mr. Richard Rogers Preacher
at Walbersfield in Essex, (whom
I well remember, and have of∣ten
seen his constant attendance
at the publick prayers of the
Church) In his pio••s book entitu∣led
the seven Treatises.
In that Chapt. of publick pray∣ers.
He thus beginneth. If that
mind be in us, with the which we
have been taught to come to all ho∣ly
exercises, and so to be prepared
for them; who doubteth, but that
we may receive much help by them?
yea, and the better a man is, the
more he shall profit by them, &c.
Some have thought all set forms of
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prayer are to be disliked, and such
onely to be offered up to God, as
by extemporary gift, are concei∣ved,
and uttered; And that the
Minister should use no set form of
prayer, but as they are moved by
Gods spirit.
I answer. It is a foul errour so
to think. For as there be necessary
things to be prayed for of all men,
and alwayes, and those are the
most things which we are to pray
to the Lord for, so there may be a
prescript form of prayer made con∣cerning
all such things; which
being so, what letteth that in the
reading of such forms, either of
confessing of sinnes, request, or
thanksgiving; what letteth, I say,
that the ••earers hearts may not
profitably go on with the same,
both to humble, to quicken and to
comfort: For is the reading it self
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unpure, when the Minister in his
own behalf, and the peoples, utter∣eth
them to God; I speak not (ye
see) of the matter of prayer, but of
reading it, for if the matter be erro∣neus,
and naught, the pronounceing
of it, maketh it not good, any more
then the reading doth; and if it be
good and pure being uttered or pro∣nounced,
the reading cannot hurt
it, or make it evill. And as the
Church in the Scripture did, and
doth sing Psalmes upon a book to
God, and yet, though it utter a pre∣script
form of words, I hope none
will say that it is a sin to do so, the
heart being prepared. In like manner
to follow a prescript form of words
in praying is no sinne, and there∣fore
ought not to be offensive to
any, &c.
And further, they may know
that in all Churches, and the best
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reformed, there is a prescript form
of prayer used, and therefore they
who are of mind that it ought not
to be, must seperate themselves
from all Churches. Also, if a set
form of prayer were unlawful, then
neither were the Lords prayer
(which is a form of prayer, pre∣scribed
by our Saviour, himself) to
be used. And so he proceeds to
perswade all good Christians to
lay aside contention, and endlesse,
and needlesse questions about this
matter, and with well order'd hearts
and minds to attend unto, and ap∣ply
to themselves the prayers,
which either before Sermon or af∣ter
Sermon are uttered, or the o∣ther,
which through the whole acti∣on
of Gods worship, are read in their
hearing, &c. So much Mr. Ro∣gers.
Now this book of the seven
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Treatises, hath been since epito∣mized
by Mr. Egerton, and enti∣tuled
the practice of Christianitie,
which hath an Epistle of Doctor
Gouge before it, in a high com∣mendation
of it. Now, at the
conclusion of that he hath added,
Certain Advertisements concern∣ing
prayer, in which, his, or both
their judgements in this subject,
are declared accordingly. viz.
That it is lawfull, and in some ca∣ses
expedient, to use a set form of
prayer. Question (saith he) is
made by many of the lawfulnesse,
or at least of the expediencie of
praying by the help of a book, or of
using a prescript, and set form of
prayer. It is to be considered, that
there be divers degrees and mea∣sures
of gifts, both naturall, as of
grace; besides, some have been by
custome more trained and exercised
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in this holy dutie then others, &c.
which difference I have observed,
not onely in private Christians, but
also in some most reverend, faith∣full,
and worthy Ministers. Some
using both in their publick Mini∣sterie,
and in their private fa∣milies;
a stinted prayer, and set
form of words, with little altera∣tion
at all, except some extraordi∣narie
occasion have happened, and
yet both sorts so furnished with
pietie and learning, as I could
hardly prefer the one before the
other.
a 1.9 Moreover, whereas in respect
of the place and company, there be
three sorts of prayer publick in the
Church, private in the family, and
secret by a man self; greatest li∣berty
may be taken in secret and
solitarie prayer, because we are
sure (that if there be a believe∣ing,
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humble, upright heart) God
will not upbraid any man for his
method, order, words, or utterance.
Yet in private prayer we may not
take so great a libertie,* 1.10 &c. and
some well-affected, have been some∣what
faultie and offensive in this
behalfe: weak and tender Christi∣ans,
(such as commonly are in a
family) are not so capable of that
kind of prayer, which is called,
conceived, or extemporate, vary∣ing
every time in words and phra∣ses,
manner, and order, though
the matter and substance be the
same.* 1.11 But especially care must be
had in the publick congregation,
that nothing be done in praying,
preaching, or Administration of
Sacraments, but that which is de∣cent
and orderly; because there,
many eyes do see us, and many ears
do hear us; and therefore it is ex∣pedient
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(for the most part) to
keep a constant form, both of mat∣ter
and words, and yet without
servile tying our selves to words
and syllables, but using herein such
libertie and freedome, as may stand
with comelinesse, &c. And so he
proceeds thus to direct men, that
though a Book may be used in
private prayer, yet that it is much
better to get their prayer by heart,
commending the use of the Lords
Prayer, and the varietie of other
formes of godly prayers in print,
penned by forreigne Divines, as
our own countreymen; as Mr. Brad∣ford
that blessed Martyr, Master
Deering, Mr. Hieron, and divers
others yet living, whose printed
prayers are nothing inferiour to
the former. And so because there
ever have been, and still are many
Babes in the Church of God, which
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have need of milk, &c. and some of
bad memories, and heavie spirits,
&c. he frames divers formes of
prayers to be used for Morning and
Evening in case of sicknesse, for
the Lords day, &c. Thus much
very excellently, Mr. Egerton,
approved by Doctor Gouge.
Mr. Arthur Hildersham, Prea∣cher
at Ashbie-delazouch in Lei∣cester-shire,
upon the 51 Psalme,
p. 63. saith thus. I dare not deny,
but a weak Christian may use the
help of a good Prayer-book; better
to pray on a book, then not to pray
at all. Certainly 'tis a spirit of
errour, that hath taught the world
otherwise.
First, our blessed Saviour pre∣scribed
to his Disciples a Forme
of prayer, not only to be to them
and his whole Church a rule, and
sampler, according to which, all
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our prayers should be framed, (as
appears, when he saith, Matth. 6.
9. After this manner pray ye,) but
even for them; to say, tying them∣selves
to the very words of it, as
appeareth, Luke 11. 2. when ye
pray, say, our Father, &c. By
which answer of our Saviour to
his Disciples, it may also appear,
that John taught his disciples to
pray, by giving them forms of
prayer; to say, yea, even in secret
prayer. Matth. 6. 6.
2. All the best reformed Chur∣ches
do now, and ever have used,
even in publick Liturgies, prescript
forms of prayer; and have judged
them of great use and necessitie for
the edification of the Church: And
surely this argument is not to be
contemned by any sober Christian,
as appeareth by the Apostles speech,
1 Cor. 11. 16. If any man seem to
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be contentious, we have no such
custome; neither the Churches of
God: So doth he again presse the
example and practice of all the
Churches of the Saints, 1 Cor.
14. 33.
3. This is no stinting, nor hin∣derance
to the spirit of Prayer in a∣ny
of Gods people, no more then the
singing of praise to the Lord in the
words of David, is now, and was
in Hezekiahs time, 2 Chron. 29.
30. or the joining in heart with
the words that another uttereth
in conceived prayer: Thus far
Mr. Hildersham.
Doctor Preston (who used a
set Form of Prayer before Ser∣mon)
in that Sermon of his prea∣ched
before King Iames, Text,
Iohn 1. 16. Of his fulnesse we have
all received, &c. p. 22. saith thus.
That a set form is lawfull, much
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need not be said, the very newnesse
of the contrary opinion is enough
to shew the vanitie and falshood
of it. It is contrary to the appro∣ved
judgement of approved Coun∣cells,
learned Fathers, and the con∣tinual
practice of the Church. He
instanceth in Tertullians time, and
Origen, Saint Basil, Ambrose. Con∣stantine
the Great prescribed a set
form of prayer to his souldiers, and
Calvine in his 83. Epist. to the
Protectour of England, saith, that
he doth greatly allow a set form of
Ecclesiastical prayer, which the Mi∣nister
shall be bound to observe.
But (as I said before) of the law∣fulnesse
of it, there is no Que∣stion.
How slight is that which is ob∣jected
against the lawfulnesse of it;* 1.12
to wit, That the spirit is stinted,
when we are fetterd with words
appointed?
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I answer, The freedome of the
spirit stands not so much in the
extent of words, as in the inten∣tion
of zeal, wherein they are ut∣tered.
And if a set form be law∣full,
then must a set form needs
excell, which is dictated by Christ
himself, and is therefore more fre∣quently
to be used, and with all re∣verence,
both in mind and gesture;
nor doth this want the practice
and approbation of the Antientest,
instancing in Saint Cyprian, and
Saint Augustine, &c.
And for a further confirmati∣on,
see the same affirmed by him
again; in his book called the
Saints daily exercise, set forth
and approved by Doctor Sibbs,
(who himself used a set Form of
Prayer before Sermon,) Mr. Da∣venport
p. 80. viz. Another case
(saith he) is, Whether we may
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use a set Forme of Prayer.
Answ. I need not say much to
you, for I think there is none here
that doubts, but that a set Form
of Prayer may be used: you know
Christ prescribed a Form; you
know there were certain Psalmes,
that were prayers that were used
constantly, and therefore no doubt,
but a set Form may be used, and
in the Church at all times, both in
Primitive times, and all along to
the beginning of the Reformed
times, to Luther, and Calvins time,
still in all times, the Church had set
Forms they used, and I know no ob∣jection
is of weight. One main obje∣ction
is this. That in stinted pray∣er,
the spirit is streitned, &c. To
this he gives a three fold answer.
1. They that object it, do the
same thing daily in the congrega∣tion,
whose spirits are limited and
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stinted by being hearers of him
that prayes.
2. 'Tis no generall tye, but at
other times in private, they may
be as free as they will.
3. The spirit or affections are
not tyed, or restrained hy a set
form, there may be largenesse of the
heart, though there be a limit of
words; This is the summe of the
answer, which the Reader may
have more at large there.
And thus I have given ye the
judgement of these four eminent
men in their time, approved by
three other equall with them∣selves,
all fully concurring with
the Primate in this particular,
which cannot but prevail much
with such as have been, or are
otherwise minded at this day, I
adde no more, presuming that
those that will despise these, will
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set light by any other; and so
much for this subject, concerning
a set Form of Prayer.
Now there are two other
things, which upon this occasion
might not be unseasonable to
speak a word of, according to
the Primates judgement also.
viz. Of the length or brevity in
prayer, and of the Gesture at it;
in both which, many of this age
have gone astray.
1. For the length. In the
publick, all good discretion
teacheth ordinarily not to be ve∣ry
large, (for we speak not now
of extraordinary duties in pub∣lick
Fasts) because in a congre∣gation,
all the Auditours are not
of the like strength. Some, (ac∣cording
to that distinction of
Iohn 1. Ep. 2. 13, 14.) may be
Fathers, some young men, but
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others Children fitter for milke
then strong meat, that a long con∣tinuance
at prayer may as ill suit
with them, as putting of a new
garment to an old, or new wine in∣to
old bottles.
Iacobs speech in answer to his
Brother Esau, when he would
have had him driven on his pace
with him (Gen. 33. 13.) I will
(saith he) lead on softly according
as the Cattle with young, which
are with me, and the children
which are tender shall be able to
endure, lest if I should over-drive
them one day, the flock should
die, may have its Morall applica∣tion
to the prudence of a Pastor
this way.
'Tis very dangerous to cause a
fulnesse in the worship of God,
that for prayer men should be
apt to say, as those in the Prophet
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for the Sabbath, when will it be
done?
Solomons caveat (Eccles. 5. 2.)
against rash and hasty utterings,
and multiplying of words in the
house of God, and his Councell,
upon it. Let thy words be few, are
observable, much may be spoken
in a little, and 'tis true in this,
as other matters, vis unita for∣tior.
There is an excellent Epistle
of Saint Augustines concerning
this subject, (Epist. 121. Probae vi∣duae.)
that (saith he) is not a
commendation that he was long at
prayer; there may be much speech,
but little praying (multa loquutio
n••n multa precatio) while the
affection is lifted up; like the
hands of Moses, so long the party
prayes, when that is heavie, the
Act of prayer ceaseth; sometimes
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(saith he) the work of prayer is
rather done (gemitibus quàm ser∣monibus;
fletu quàm afflatu) with
sighes, then words, teares, then
lips.
The time when our Savionr is
observed to have used a prolixity,
was in the private, then whole
nights in prayer, and the whole
day till even, but not in the pub∣lick;
respecting, it may be, the cau∣ses
before mentioned. So much
for the length of it.
Secondly, for the gesture; Cer∣tainly,
the most comely is kneel∣ing,
after the example of David,
(Psal. 100. Ezra (cap. 9. 5.) Daniel
(cap. 6. 10.) and the pattern of our
Saviour, Luc. 22. 41. he kneeled
down and prayed, &c. whose
example Saint Stephen followed,
(Acts 7. 6.) and Saint Paul (Acts
20. 36.) For this cause I bow my
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knees unto the Father, &c. (Eph.
3. 14.) The humility of the soul
is principall, but that of the body
must not be omitted; both being
bought with a price, God must be
glorified in both; present your bo∣dies
as a living holy acceptable
sacrifice to him (Rom. 12. 1.)
A second which is allowed, is
standing, 2 Chron. 20. 5. Iehosa∣saphat
stood and prayed, &c. (Ne∣hem.
9. 14.) At a solemn fast, the
Priests and people stood, and con∣fessed
their sinnes: allowed by
our Saviour (Marc. 11. 25.) when
thou standest praying; sitting
is no fit gesture for it: as even
* 1.13Amesius confirms it. Sessio non
est gestus orandi, which is not
justified by that of David,
(2 Sam. 7. 18.) who upon the
Message from God by Nathan,
is said presently to have went
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in, and sate before the Lord and
prayed, or that of the Israelites,
(Iudg. 20. 26.) Who at their so∣lemn
Fasts are said to have wept,
and sate before the Lord till Even;
because the same word is fre∣quently,
and as properly ren∣dred
elsewhere; to remain, abide,
or tarry in a place, as Genes. 27.
44. tarrying with him, &c. Lev.
4. 8. he shall tarry abroad, 1 Sam.
1. 23. tarry till thou have weaned
him, &c. cap. 20. 29. thou shalt
remain at the stone, &c. and so
here, both for David and the Isra∣elites,
the sense is, only they conti∣nued
or remained before the Lord
in prayer and fasting, as that of
Matth. 4. the people which sate in
darknesse, &c. can be meant in no
other. Our Saviours sitting at the
right hand of his Father, hath as
well the sense of standing, accor∣ding
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to Saint Stephens vision of
him, Acts 7. 56. and that which is
said of the Apostles at the Passo∣ver,
Mark 14. 18, and as they sate
and did eat (〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉) signifies
rather a lying down, leaning one
upon another, and according to
the former instances, may imply
as well a standing, which 'tis
probable was the ancient gesture;
so that sitting may be taken, in
the latitude of any other gesture
used at their remaining there.
Nay, standing is not so strict∣ly
limited, but 'tis sometimes
taken for kneeling, (2 Chron. 6.
12.) 'Tis said, Solomon stood be∣fore
the Altar, and spread forth
his hands towards heaven; yet
verse 14. he stood, and kneeled
down upon his knees, and (1 Kings
8. 54.) he arose from kneeling on
his knees, That woman which
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is said to have stood at Iesus feet,* 1.14
and kissed them, and washed them
with her teares, and wiped them
with the hair of her head, must
imply a bowing down, at least to
a kneeling.
A third, which in Scripture
was accustomed with both the
former, is the lifting up of the
hands, according to that of Da∣vid
in the Psalmes. Let us lift up
our hands unto God in the heavens,* 1.15hear my supplication, when I lift
up my hands towards thy holy Ora∣cle,
&c. which is referred to in
the New Testament, I will that
man lift up pure hands, (1 Tim.
2. 8.) signifying that of David,
unto thee do I lift up my soul: To
which we may adde the lifting up
of the eyes to heaven, according
to the example of our Saviour
(John 17. cap. 11. 41. Mat. 14. 19.)
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Other unseemly postures of the
hands, eyes, face, and the like;
hath no example in Scripture,
and even mens hiding, or cover∣ing
of the face at publick prayer,
seems to be against the order of
the Apostle, and the then custome
of the Churches. 1 Cor. 11. 7. for
by the head there is not meant
the hairy scalp, but the face, both
by several circumstances in it,
and the acceptation of the word
elsewhere. 2 Sam. 15. 30. David
wept as he went, and had hishead
covered, and all the people that
were with him, covered every man
his head, weeping as they went;
&c. here by the head must be
understood the face, after the
manner of mourners, as on the
contrary, that of our Saviour to
his Disciples, in token of joy; lift
up your heads, must be meant ac∣cordingly,
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And the face being the
seat of shame, the head must be so
taken, Ier. 14. 3, 4. they were asha∣med
and confounded, they cover∣ed
their heads, &c. unto which,
some passages out of Tertullian
might be given, by way of confir∣mation.
Now for the better reception
of this latter part of the Pri∣mates
judgement, concerning
our outward reverence in the pub∣lick
worship of God, whether at
hearing of the Word or Prayer;
so much neglected in these times;
I shall here adde what I find in
the foresaid Mr. Arthur Hilder∣sham,
in his Lectures upon Iohn
4. In the 26. Lecture he speakes
much for the outward reverence
of Gods publick worship in the
Church. viz. That we should neither
come into that place, nor go out of
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it, as ye would in or out of a dance∣ing-schoole;
But in our very come∣ing
in, and going out, and whole out∣ward
carriage; we should give
some signification of the reverence
that we bear to this place, and that
we do indeed account it the house
of God; Exhorts men to come to
the beginning of the then publick
worship, or before it begins; and
tarry till all be done: to be pre∣sent
at the Administration of Bap∣tisme,
and at the blessing pronoun∣ced
by Gods Ministers. Affirmes,
that there was nothing then
done in Gods publick worship
among us, but it was done by the
Institution, and Ordinance, and
Commandement of the Lord; the
particulars of which, he men∣tions.
In his 27. Lecture, he exhorts
to a reverend gesture in prayer,
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kneeling as the fittest; or standing,
not sitting. And commending
the reading of the Scriptures in
publick; he saith, At the hearing
of the word read, some further ge∣sture,
and outward signification of
reverence is to be used, then is re∣quired
at the hearing of the Ser∣mon;
which he confirmes by
proofes out of Scripture and rea∣sons,
too large to be related
here. But he thus concludes. viz.
So you see the custome of our Chur∣ches
in sitting bare while the
Word is read, is grounded upon
good reason and warrant from the
word of God, and such, as it well
becomes every one of Gods peo∣ple
to conform themselves unto.
Lect. 29. he complains of that
irreverence thus. Some will not
vouchsafe to be bare at the read∣ing
of the Word, some will be bare
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at the Psalmes, not at the Chap∣ters;
and if they could justly pre∣tend
infirmity for it, they were to
be excused; but they will not be
bare many of them, so long as the
Text is in reading: yea, every
youth and boy in our Congregations,
are wont to be covered, while the
Word is read.
But the chief abuse is, the neg∣lect
of kneeling in prayer, many
that will kneel at their own private
prayers (which they make at their
coming into the Church) can never
be seen to kneel at the common and
publick prayers. Many that will
kneel at the Lords prayer, will
kneel at no other, wherein (though
the Lords prayer be in sundry re∣spects
more excellent then any other
yet) there is as much reason we
should kneel at any other prayer,
as at it; for the reason of our
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kneeling, is not the excellency of
the words used in prayer, but the
reverence and duty we owe to the
person we pray unto, &c. This saith
that worthy and judicious Wri∣ter
Mr. Hildersham,) I can but
wonder, upon what pretence
such a man could be silenced,
(as he wrot himselfe to the Pri∣••ate;
Anno 1630.
I conclude only with an ex∣hortation
to decency, and a reve∣rent
comelinesse in our solemne
meetings, that devotion and pru∣dence
may kisse each other, that
while the soule is lifted up in
prayer, the body may be hum∣bled,
and the whole man present∣ed
to God as an acceptable sacri∣fice,
that unity and uniformity in
doctrine and worship; may be
found among us, and that we
may all be of one heart, and one
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mind. Consider what hath been
said, and the Lord give us un∣derstanding
and moderation in
all things.
Notes
a 1.1
Disput. 36. de cultu in∣vocat. Sect. 33. non tantum lici∣tas sed & valde utiler esse, contendimus, &c. & in magnis conventibus at••entio auditorum per usitatas formulas, non pa∣rum juvatur.
Licitum hoc esse manife∣stum est, ex approbata sanctorum praxi, quam in praescriptis Psal∣mis, & bene••ice••di formulis, scriptura nobis commendat. V∣tile etiam & necessarium est quibusdam istisumodi f••rmam sequi, quamvis ex libell••••sit de∣notanda. l. 4. cap. 17. de or••tione mentali & vocali.
Vbi sunt 〈◊〉〈◊〉 Pastor••s S. Liturgi•• publica formula est apprimè utilis & necessaria, ••d communem Ecclesiae aedificationem, &c. earum usus ju∣re damnari ••on p••••est nec debet, c••um s••mper & ubique, in uni∣versa Ecclesia Christi••na, toto terrarum orbe, ••am à piusquam 1300 annis per∣p••tuo obtinuerit, etiamq••e ••odie ubique obtineat, nisi apud nov∣tio••, &c. Donec tandem nuperi∣mè exorti sunt in Anglia, &c. de Litu••g. con∣cept. form. 〈◊〉〈◊〉 3.
Sicuti quo∣que tota vetust•• Ecelesia, i•• semper extra•• controversiam bab••••••t, viz. Prec••••i••nem han•• Christi non esse tantum rect•• pre••andi normam, sed insuper queque 〈◊〉〈◊〉 precand•• formam. Sy∣nops. Theol. disp. 36. Sect. 33.