A true account of the whole proceedings betwixt His Grace James Duke of Ormond, and the Right Honor. Arthur, Earl of Anglesey, late Lord Privy-Seal, before the King and Council and the said Earls letter of the second of August to His Majesty on that occasion : with a letter of the now Lord Bishop of Winchester's to the said Earl, of the means to keep out popery, and the only effectual expedient to hinder the growth thereof, and to secure both the Church of England, and the Presbiterian party.

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A true account of the whole proceedings betwixt His Grace James Duke of Ormond, and the Right Honor. Arthur, Earl of Anglesey, late Lord Privy-Seal, before the King and Council and the said Earls letter of the second of August to His Majesty on that occasion : with a letter of the now Lord Bishop of Winchester's to the said Earl, of the means to keep out popery, and the only effectual expedient to hinder the growth thereof, and to secure both the Church of England, and the Presbiterian party.
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Ormonde, James Butler, Duke of, 1610-1688.
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London :: Printed for Thomas Fox,
1682.
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Great Britain -- History -- Charles II, 1660-1685.
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"A true account of the whole proceedings betwixt His Grace James Duke of Ormond, and the Right Honor. Arthur, Earl of Anglesey, late Lord Privy-Seal, before the King and Council and the said Earls letter of the second of August to His Majesty on that occasion : with a letter of the now Lord Bishop of Winchester's to the said Earl, of the means to keep out popery, and the only effectual expedient to hinder the growth thereof, and to secure both the Church of England, and the Presbiterian party." In the digital collection Early English Books Online. https://name.umdl.umich.edu/A63346.0001.001. University of Michigan Library Digital Collections. Accessed June 17, 2024.

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Now to shew, that Dr. Morley the Learned Bishop of Winche∣ster, is of the same opinion with the Earl of Anglesey, for the keep∣ing out of Popery, now it seems to be flowing in upon us, it hath been thought fit, to fill up this last sheet with the following Letter of the said Bishop, written to the said Earl above ten years ago, when the Papists Warmly set upon their Design to introduce Popery, and many years before their Desperate Plot since Discovered (for which so many have suffered by the hand of Justice) was ripe for Execu∣tion.

Which Letter was Receiv'd by the said Earl from the said Bishop, July the 9th. 1672. by the hands of the Lord Cornbury, now Earl of Clarendon.

My Lord,

Yours by my Lord of Cornbury, I Receiv'd this Morning from his own hands, and this is to Return you my humble thanks, for the fa∣vorable opinion of me you are pleased to express in it, which as to the Zeal I have for the Protestant Religion, I hope I may without va∣nity, own to be true, but must acknowledge I want these abilities to defend it, which you seem to think I have, but thanks be to God, our Church wants not those that have, and can, and will Answer all that hath been, or is, or can be objected against her, or any of the Doctrines, which in opposition to the Church of Rome are professed by her; neither do I know any one Book or any one Argument, (worth the taking notice of) written or urged by any Romanist, for

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them, or against us, in any material point of Difference betwixt us, that hath not been clearly and fully Answered over and over again, by some or other of our own Church of England, to say nothing of those Eminently Learned and Pious Divines of the other Reformed Protestant Churches beyond the Seas, so that to Answer every im∣pertinent Pamphlet that comes forth, which hath nothing but what hath been so often Answered before in it, is but Actum agere & stultus labor ineptiarum, and therefore the Wiseman that bids us, for bids us too; to Answer a Fool in his folly, his meaning is, that after we have Answered him once, we should Answer him no more, especial∣ly such Kind of fools, quos non persuadebis etiamsi persuaeris, and such are all those who contend for Interest and not for truth: Deme∣trius will hold his Conclusion, that Diana is a Goddess, as long as he hath nothing to live by, but the making of Shrines, but is there then nothing to be done will you say to keep out Popery, now it seems to be flowing in upon us? yes no doubt there is, and I hope there will be, when His Majesty shall see a Convenient time for it, but it will not be done, when it is done by writing, or answering of Books pro and con, of which there will never be an end. But how is it to be done then? I answer, viderint illi qui ad Clavum sedent, let them look to it, who sit at the helm. I am ready to obey, whatsoever I shall be Commanded to that purpose, as far as my Conscience will permit, and I thank God I have done so both formerly, and in my late visitation of my whole Diocess, which perhaps you may have heard of, little to my Credit if the Pseudo-Catholicks have informed you of it, but I care not what they or any other Hereticks, or Schis∣maticks do, or can say of me; as long as I do that and no more then what my Duty to God and the King, and the Place I hold in the Church requires of me.

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You know what I was for in the late Sessions of Parliament, (I mean not a comprehension,) but a Coalition or Incorporation of the Presbiterian Party, into the Church as it is by Law Established, and I am still of the same opinion, that it is the one only effectual Ex∣pedient, to hinder the growth of Popery, and to secure both par∣ties, and I am very Confident, that there are no Presbiterians in the World (the Scotch only Excepted) that would not Conform to all that is Required by our Church, especially in such a Juncture of time as this is, which is all I have to say as to that particular at this di∣stance.

My Lord the visit your Son made me, I took for a great Honor and favor from him, especially considering how much good I have heard of him, which I hope will Increase every day more and more in him, that the succeeding age may be the better for him. My Lord I am

Your Lordships very humble Servant Geor. Winton.

Farnham Castle July 4th 1672.

Directed. For the Right honorable the Earl of Anglesey.
FINIS.
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