Meeting, and the other to another, that he was present at their Consulttaion to Kill the King, Subvert the Government, and to bring in the Popish Religion; that he did agree at the meeting to the Killing of the King, they do both Swear, and this they say was at Sir Thomas Gascoynes, and that at the several meetings there was a List produced, but Bolron saith, that the List when he was present was a List of those that were engaged towards the carrying on of the Nunnery; that which the other speaks of, was a List of those that were engaged about the killing the King, about the whole design which was to be effected by killing the King, this he Swears, that Thwing did produce this List; and Mowbray saith, that three or four Priests were present at that time, and that Thwing said, the King was an Heretick, and Excom∣municated by the Pope, and it was not only lawful but me∣ritorious to kill Him. So that admitting this Evidence be true, it is a full Evidence of High Treason against him; here is an imagining the Death of the King, and here is an overt Act, here is a setting hands to it; so that if this be true, Thwing is guilty of High Treason. Now against this, they have produced many Witnesses, and none of them doth go about to prove this impossible but only improbable, but one that is a Groom of Sir Thomas Gascoyne's, who saith, he was but once or twice that year there, and not at Easter but about Michaelmas, is that enough to answer the Testimony of these two Men, Gentlemen, for a Groom to take upon him, to say two years after who was at his Masters House, and how often, and what time of the year, is to me a very strange thing; unless it were one that was never used to to come there: But this man, he saith, did use to come there, but that I must leave to you. The Rest of the Wit∣nesses were the same that were Examined yesterday. First They insist concerning Mr. Lowther, they say, that when Mr. Bolron first went to Mr. Lowther, he said nothing of Mr. Thwing, but it appears, he said then, that afterwards he might remember more, then the man was under a great Conster∣nation, and told him, the great and dangerous consequences of having so long concealed it, was the occasion of that dis∣order