Animadversions on a treatise intituled Fiat lux, or, A guide in differences of religion, between papist and Protestant, Presbyterian and independent by a Protestant.

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Animadversions on a treatise intituled Fiat lux, or, A guide in differences of religion, between papist and Protestant, Presbyterian and independent by a Protestant.
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J. V. C. -- (John Vincent Canes), d. 1672. -- Fiat lux.
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CHAP. V. (Book 5)

& Chap. I. Contests about Religion and Re∣formation, Schoolmen, &c.

THe Title of this Chapter was pro∣posed; the persuit of it, now en∣sues. The first Paragraph is a decla∣mation about sundry things which have not much blame-worthy in them. Their common weakness is, that they are com∣mon. They tend not to the furtherance of any one thing more then another; but are such as any Party may flourish withal, and use to their several ends as they please. That, desire of honour and

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applause in the world, hath influenced the minds of men to great and strange Undertakings, is certain. That it should do so, is not certain, nor true: so, that when we treat of Religion, if we re∣nounce not the Fundamental Principle of it in Self-denyal, this consideration ought to have no place. What then was done by Emperours and Philosophers of old, or by the later School-men on this account, we are little concerned in. Nor have I either desire or design to vellicate any thing spoken by our Author, that may have an indifferent interpretation put up∣on it; and be separated from the end which he principally persues. As there is but very little spoken in this Paragraph, directly tending to the whole end aimed at, so there are but three things, that will any way serve to leaven the mind of his Reader, that he may be prepared to be moulded into the form he hath fancyed to cast him into, which is the work of all these previous Harangues.

The first is his in••••nuation, That the Reformation of Religion is a thing pretend∣ed by aemulous Plebeians, not able to hope for that Supervisorship in Religion which

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they see intrusted with others. How un∣serviceable this is unto his Design as ap∣plyed to the Church of England, all men know; for setting aside the considera∣tion of the influence of Soveraign Royal Authority, the first Reformers amongst us, were persons who as they enjoyed the right of Reputation for the Excellencies of Learning and Wisdom; so also were they fixed in those places and conditions in the Church, which no Reformation could possibly advance them above; and the attempt whereof cost them not only their dignities, but their lives also. Neither were Heze∣kiah, Josiah, or Ezra, of old, aemulous plebeians, whose lasting glory and re∣nown arose from their Reformation of Religion. They who fancy men in all great undertakings to be steered by de∣sire of applause and honour, are exceed∣ing incompetent judges of those actions which zeal for the glory of God, love to the Truth, sense of their duty to the Lord Jesus Christ, and compassion for the souls of others, do lead men unto, and guide them in; and such will the last Day manifest the Reformation traduced to have been.

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The Second, is a gallant commendti∣on of the Ingenuity, Charity, Candor, and sublime Science of the School-men. I confess, they have deserved good words at his hands: These are the men, who out of a mixture of Philosophy, Traditi∣ons, and Scripture all corrupted and per∣verted, have hamm••••ed that faith, which was afterwards confirmed under so many Anathemaes at Trent. So that upon the matter, he is beholden to them for his Religion; which I find he loves, and hath therefore reason to be thankful to its Contrivers. For my part, I am as far from envying them their commendati∣on, as I have reason to be, which I am sure is far enough. But yet before we admit this Testimony, hand over head; I could wish he would take a course to stop the mouths of some of his own Church, and those no small ones neither, who have declared them to the world, to be a pack of egregious Sophisters, neither good Philosophers, nor any Divines at all; men who seem not to have had the least reverence of God, nor much regard to the Truth in any of their Disputations, but we•••• wholly influenced by a vain Re∣putation

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of Subtility, desire of Conquest, of leading and denominating Parties, and that in a Barbarous Science, barbarously expressed, untill they had driven all Learning and Divinity almost out of the World. But I will not contend about these Fathers of Contention: let eve∣ry man esteem of them as he seems good.

There is the same respect, in that bit∣ter reflection which he makes on those, who have managed differences in Reli∣gion in this last Age, the Third thing ob∣servable. That they are the Writers, and Writings that have been published against the Papacy which he intends; he doth more than intimate. Their Di∣sputes, he rells us, are managed with so much unseemly behaviour, such unmanerly expressions, that discreet sobriety cannot but loath, and abhor to read them; with very much more to this purpose. I shall not much labour to perswade men not to be∣lieve what he sayes in this matter; for I know full well, that he believes it not himself. He hath seen too many Pro∣testant Books, I suppose, to think this Cen••••re will suit them all. This was

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meet to be spoken, for the advantage of the Catholick cause: for what there hath been of real offence in this kind amongst us, we may say, Iliacos intra muros pecca∣tur et extra; Romanists are Sinners as well as others: And I suppose himself knows. That the Reviling, and Defamations used by some of his Party, are not to be pa∣ralleld in any Writings of man-kind at this day extant.

About the Appellatios he shall think meet to make use of, in reference to the Persons at variance, we will not contend with him: Only I desire to let him know, That the reproach of Galilean from the Pagans, which he appropriates to the Papists, was worn out of the World, before that Popery which he pleads for, came into it. As Roman-Ca∣tholicks never tasted of the sufferings wherewith that Reproach was attended, so they have no special right to the ho∣nour that is in its remembrance. As to the sport he is pleased to make with his Countrey-men, in the close of this Para∣graph, about losing their wits in Religious contests, with the evils thence ensuing, I shall no further reflect upon; but once

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more to mind the Reader, that the many words he is pleased to use in the exagge∣rating the evils of mannaging diffe∣rences in Religion with animosities and tumults, so seemingly to perswade men to moderation and peace, I shall wholly pass by, as having discovered, that that is not his business, nor consequently at present, mine.

It is well observed by him in his se∣cond Paragraph, that most of the great Contests in the world about perishing things, proceed from the unmortified lusts of men. The Scripture abounds in Testimonies given hereunto: St. James expresly; From whence come wars and fightings among you? come they not hence even of your lusts that war in your mem∣bers? ye lust and have not, ye kill and de∣sire to have, and cannot obtain; you fight and warr, yet you have not, chap. 4.1, 2. Mens lusts put them on endless irregu∣larities, in unbounded desires, and foolish sinful enterprizes for their satisfaction. Neither is Satan the old Enemy of the well-fare of mankind wanting to excite, provoke, and stir up these lusts by mix∣ing himself with them in his temptati∣ons,

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thrusting them on, and intangling them in their persuit. As to the Con∣tests about Religion, which I know not with what mind or intention he terms an empty airy business, a ghostly fight, a skirmish of Shaddows or Horse-men in the clowds, he knows not what principle, cause, or sourse, to asoibe them unto; That which he is most inclinable unto, is, That there is something invisible above man, stronger and more politick then he, that doth this contumely to mankind, that casts in these Apples of Contention amongst us, that hisses us to warr and battail, as wag∣gish Boys do Doggs in the street. That which is intended in these words, and sundry others of the like quality that follow, is, that this ariseth from the in∣tisements and impulsions of the Devil. And none can doubt, but that in these works of darkness, the Prince of Dark∣ness hath a great hand. The Scripture also assures us, that as the Scorpions which vexed the world issued out of the bottom∣less pit, so also that these unclean spi∣rits do stir up the powers of the Earth to make opposition unto the Truth of the Gospel, and Religion of Jesus Christ.

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But yet neither doth this hinder, but that even these religious fewds and mis∣carriages also, proceed principally from the ignorance, darkness, and lusts of men▪ In them lies the true cause of all dissen∣tions in and about the things of God. The best know but in part, and the most love darkness more than light, be∣cause their works are evils. A vain con∣versation received by tradition from mens fathers; with inveterate prejudices, love of the world, and the customs there∣of, do all help on this sd work wherein so many are imployed. That some preach the Gospel of God 〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉〈 in non-Latin alphabet 〉 with all their strength, in much contention, and contend earnestly for the Faith once de∣livered unto the Saints; as it is their duty, so it is no cause, but only an ac∣cidental occasion, of differences amongst men. That the invisible substances our Author talks of, should be able to sport themselves with us as Children do with Dogs in the street, and that with the like im∣pulse from them, as Dogs from these, we should rush into our contentions, might pass for a pretty notion, but only that it over-throws all Religion in the

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world, and the whole nature of man. There is evil enough in corrupted na∣ture to produce all these evils which are declaimed against to the end of this Se∣ction, were there no Daemons to excite men unto them. The adventitious im∣pressions from them, by temptations and suggestions, doubtless promote them, and make men precipitate above their natu∣ral tempers in their productions; but the principal cause of all our evils is still to be looked for at home,

Nec te quaesiveris extra.

Sect. 3. Pag. 34. In the next Section of this Chapter whereunto he prefixes, Nullity of Title, he persues the perswa∣sive unto Peace, Moderation, Charity, and Quietness, in our several perswasions, with so many reasonings, and good words, that a man would almost think that he began to be in good earnest, and that those were the things which he intended for their own sakes to promote. I presume, it cannot but at the first view seem strange to some, to find a man of the Roman party so ingeniously ar∣guing

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against the imposition of our senses in Religion magisterially and with violence one upon the other; it being notoriously known to all the world, that they are, if not the only, yet the greatest Imposers on the minds and consciences of men that ever lived in the earth; and which work they cease not the prosecu∣tion of, where they have power, until they come to fire and fagot. I dare say, there is not any strength in any of his queries, collections, and arguings, but an indifferent man would think it at the first sight to be pointed against the Ro∣man interest and practice. For what have they been doing for some ages past, but under a pretence of Charity to the souls of men, endeavouring to perswade them to their Opinions and Worship, or to impose them on them whether they will or no? But let old things pass; it is well if now at last they begin to be o∣therwise minded. What then, if we should take this Gentleman at his word, and cry, A match; let us strive and con∣tend no more; Keep you your Religi∣on at Rome to your selves, and we will do as well as we can with ours in Eng∣land;

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we will trouble you no more a∣bout yours, nor pray do not you med∣dle with us or ours. Let us pray for one another, wait on God for light and direction, it being told us, that If any one be otherwise minded, (than according to the Truth) God shall reveal that unto him. Let us all strive to promote God∣liness, Obedience to the Commands of Christ, Good works, and Peace in the world; but for this contending about Opinions, or endeavouring to impose our several perswasions upon one ano∣ther, let us give it quite over. I fear he would scarsely close with us, and so wind up all our Differences upon the bottom of his own Proposals; especial∣ly, if this Law should extend it's self to all other Nations equally concerned with England. He would quickly tell us, that this is our mistake; he intended not Roman-Catholicks, and the differences we have with them in this Discourse; It is Protestants, Presbyterians, Indepen∣dents, Anabaptists, Quakers, that he deals with al, and them only, and that upon this ground, that none of them have any Title or pretence of Reason to impose

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on one another, and so ought to be quiet, and let one another alone in mat∣ters of Religion. But for the Roman-Catholicks, they are not concerned at all in this Harangue, having a sufficient Title to impose upon them all. Now truly, if this be all, I know not what we have to thank you for, Tantúmne est otii tibi abs re tua, aliena ut cures, ea{que} quae ad te nihil at tinent? There are wise and learned men in England, who are concerned in our differences, and do labour to compose them or suppress them. That this Gentleman should come and justle them aside, and impose him∣self an Umpire upon us, without our choyce or desire, in matters that be∣long not unto him, how charitable it may seem to be, I know not; but it is scarsely civil. Would, he would be perswaded to go home, and try his re∣medies upon the distempers of his own family, before he confidently vend them to us. I know he has no Salves about him to heal diversities of Opinions, that he can write Probatum est upon, from his Roman-Church. If he have, he is the most uncharitable man in the world, to

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leave them at home brawling, and toge∣ther by the ears; to seek out practise where he is neither desired, nor wel∣come, when he comes without invita∣tion. I confess, I was afraid at the be∣ginning of the Section, that I should be forced to change the Title before I came to the end, and write over it De∣sinit in piscem. The sum of this whole Paragraph is, that all sorts of Prote∣stants, and others, here in England, do ridiculously contend about their several perswasions in Religion, and put trou∣ble on one another on that account, whereas it is the Pope only that hath Title and Right to prescribe a Religion unto us all; which is not to me unlike the fancy of the poor man in Bedlam, who smiled with great contentment, at their folly, who imagined themselves either Queen Elizabeth, or King James, seeing he himself was King Henry the Eighth. But, seeing that is the business in hand, let us see what is this Title, that the Pope hath, which Protestants can lay no claim unto. It is founded on that of the Apostle to the Corinthians, Did the Word of God come forth from you,

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or came it unto you only? This is pre∣tended the only Rule to determin, with whom the preheminence of Religion doth remain: Now the Word came not out originally from Protestants, or Pu∣ritans, nor came it to them alone. So that they have no reason to be imposing their conceptions on one another, or own others that differ from them. But our Author seems here to have fallen upon a great mis-adventure; There is not, as I know of, any one single Text of Scripture, that doth more fatally cut the throat of Papal pretensions, than this that he hath stumbled on. It is known, that the Pope and his adherents claim a preheminence in Religion to be the sole Judges of all its concernments, and the imposers of it in all the world. What men receive from them, that is Truth; what they are any otherwise in∣structed in, it is all false and naught. On this pretence it is, that this Gentle∣man pleads Nullity of Title amongst us as to all our contests; though we know, that Truth carries its Title with it, in whose hands soever it be found. Give me leave then to make so bold (at least

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at this distance) as to ask the Pope and his Adherents An à vobis verbum Dei pro∣cessit, an ad vos solos pervenit? Did the Gospel first come from you, or only unto you, that you thus exalt your selves above your Brethren all the World over? Do we not know by whom it first came to you, and from whom? Did it not come to very many parts of the World before you? to the whole World as well as to you? Why do you then boast your selves as though you had been the first revealers of the Gospel, or that it had come unto you in a way or manner pecu∣liar and distinct from that by which it came to other places? Would you make us believe, that Christ preached at Rome, or suffered, or rose from the dead there, or gave the Holy Ghost first to the Apo∣stles there, or first there founded his Church, or gave order for the empaling it there, when it was built? Would we never so fain, we cannot believe such prodigious Fables. To what purpose then do you talk of Title to impose your conceits in Religion upon us? Did the Gospel first come forth from you, or came it unto you only? Will not Rome

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notwithstanding its seven Hills, be laid in a level with the rest of the World, by vertue of this Rule? The truth is, as to the Oral dispensation of the Gospel, it came forth from Jerusalem, by the Per∣sonal Ministry of the Apostles, and came equally to all the world: That Spring being long since dryed up, it now comes forth to all from the written word; and unto them who receive it in its Power and Truth doth it come, and unto no other. What may further be thought necessary to be discussed, as to the mat∣ter of fact, in reference to this Rule, the Reader may find handled under that con∣sideration of the first supposition; which our Author builds his Discourse up∣on.

Sect. 4. Pag. 48. Heats and Resolu∣tion, is the Title of this Section; in which if our Author be found blameless, his charge on others will be the more signi∣ficant: The Impartial Reader, that will not be imposed on by smooth words, will easily know what to guess of his temper. In the mean time, though we think it is good to be well-resolved, in

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the things that we are to believe and practise in the worship of God; yet all irregular, and irrational Heats, in the prosecution, or maintenance of mens different conceptions and apprehensions in Religion, we desire sincerely to avoid and explode. Nor is it amiss, that, to further our moderation, we be minded of the temper of the Pagans, who in their Opinion-Wars (we are told) used no other Weapons but only of Pen and Speech: For our Author seems to have forgotten, not only innumerable other Instances to the contrary, but also the renowned Battel between Ombos and Tentyra. But this forgetfulness was needful, to aggravate the charge on Christians, that are not Ro∣manists, for their heat, fury, and Fightings, for the promotion of their Opinions; as being in this so much the worse than Pa∣gans, who in Religion used another man∣ner of moderation. And who I pray is it, that manageth this charge? Whence comes this Dove, with an Olive-branch? This Orator of Peace? If we may guess from whence he came, by seeing whither he is going, we must say that it was from Rome. This is their Plea, this the

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perswasion of men of the Roman-Inte∣rest: This their charge on Protestants: To this height the confidence of mens ignorance, inadvertency, and fullness of present things amounts. Could ever any one rationally expect, that these Gentlemen would be publick decryers of Fury, Wars, and Tumults for Religion? May not Protestants say to them, Quae regio in terris nostri non plena cruoris? Is there any Nation under the Heavens, whereunto your power extends, where∣in our blood hath not given testimony to your wrath and fury? After all your cursings, and attempted depositions of Kings and Princes, translations of Title to Soveraignty and Rule, invasions of Nations, secret Conspiracies, Prisons, Racks, Swords, Fire, and Fagot, do you now come and declaim about moderati∣on? We see you not yet cease from kil∣ling of men, in the pursuit of your fancies and groundless Opinions; any where, but either where you have not power, or can find no more to kill: So that certainly, whatever reproach we deserve to have cast upon us in this matter, you are the unfittest men in the world to be manna∣gers

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of it. But I still find my self in a mistake in this thing: It is only Prote∣stants and others, departed from the Ro∣man Church, that our Author treats: It is they, who are more fierce and disin∣genious than the Pagans, in their con∣tests amongst themselves, and against the Romanists; as having the least share of Reason, of any upon the earth. His good Church is not concerned, who as it is not lead by such fancies and mo∣tives as they are, so it hath right (where it hath power) to deal with its Adversa∣ries as seems good unto it. This then, Sir, is that which you intend; that we should agree amongst our selves, and wait for your coming with power to destroy us all. It were well indeed, if we could agree; it is our fault and misery, if we do not, having so absolutely a perfect Rule and means of agreement as we have. But yet, whether we agree, or agree not, if there be another Party distinct from us all, pretending a right to exterminate us from the earth, it behooves us to look after their proceedings. And this is the true state of all our Author's Pleas for Moderation; which are built upon such

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Principles as tend to the giving us up unarmed and naked to the power and will of his Masters.

For the rest of this Section, wherein he is pleased to sport himself in the mis∣carriages of men in their coyning and propagating of their Opinions, and to gild over the care and success of the Church of Rome, in stifling such births of pride and darkness, I shall not in∣sist upon it. For as the first as gene∣rally tossed up and down, concerns none in particular, though accompanyed with the repetition of such words as ought not to be scosfed at; so the latter is no∣thing but what violence and ignorance may any where, and in any age, produce. There are Societies of Christians, not a few, in the East, wherein meer dark∣ness and ignorance of the Truth, hath kept men at peace in Errors, without the least disturbance by contrary opi∣nions amongst themselves, for above a 1000 years; and yet they have wanted the help of outward force to secure their Tranquillity. And is it any wonder, that where both these powerful Engins are set at work for the same end, if in

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some measure it be compassed and ef∣fected. And if there be such a thing among the Romanists (which I have rea∣son to be difficult in admitting the belief of) as that they can stisle all Opinions, as fast as they are conceived, or destroy them assoon as they are brought forth; I know it must be some device or artifice unknown to the Apo∣stles and Primitive Churches; who not∣withstanding all their Authority and care for the Truth, could not with many compass that end.

Sect. 5. Pag. 54. The last Section of this Chapter contains motives to mode∣ration three in number; And I suppose, that no man doubts, but that many more might be added, every one in weight out-doing all these three. The first is that alone which Protestants are con∣cerned to look unto: not that Prote∣stants oppose any motive unto moderati∣on; but knowing that in this Discourse, Moderation is only the pretence, Pope∣ry (if I may use the word without incivility) the Design and aim, it concerns them to examine, which of

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these pretended motives, that any way regards their real principle, doth tend unto; Now this Motive is, the great ig∣norance our state and condition is involved in, concerning God, his Works, and Provi∣dence; a great motive to Moderation, I wish all men would well consider it. For I must acknowledge, that I cannot but suppose them ignorant of the state and condition of mortality, and so con∣sequently their own, who are ready to destroy and exterminate their neighbors of the same flesh and bloud with them, and agreeing in the main Principles of Religion, that may certainly be known, for lesser differences, and that by such rules as within a few years may possibly reach their nearest Relations. Our Author also layes so much weight on this Motive, that he fears an anticipati∣on, by men, saying, That the Scripture reveals enough unto us; which therefore he thinks necessary to remove. For my part; I scarse think, he apprehended any real danger, that this would be in∣sisted on as an Objection against his mo∣tive to moderation. For to prevent his tending on towards that which is indeed his proper end, this obstacle is not un∣seasonably

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layed, that under a pretence of the ignorance unavoidably attending our state and condition, he might not prevail upon us to increase and aggra∣vate it, by entising us to give up our selves by an implicite faith to the con∣duct of the Roman-Church. A man may easily perceive the end he intends, by the Objections which he fore-sees. No man is so madd, I think, as to plead the sufficiency of Scripture-Revelation against Moderation; when in the Reve∣lation of the Will of God contained in the Scripture, Moderation is so much commended unto us, and pressed upon us: But against the pretended necessity of resigning our selves to the Romanists for a relief against the unavoidable ig∣norance of our state and condition, be∣sides that we know full well, such a re∣signation would yield us no relief at all; this plea of the sufficiency of Scripture-Revelation is full and unanswerable. This put our Author on a work which I have formerly once or twice advised him to meddle no more; being well as∣sured, that it is neither for his repu∣tation, nor his advantage, much less

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for his souls health. The pretences which he makes use of, are the same that we have heard of many and many a time; The abuse of it by some, and the want of an Infallible Interpreter of it as to us all. But the old tale is here anew gilded with an intermixture of o∣ther pretty stories, and application of all to the present humours of men; not forgetting to set forth the brave estate of our fore-fathers, that had not the use of the Scripture; which what it was, we know well enough, and better then the prejudices of this Gentleman will give him leave to tell us. But if the lawful and necessary use of any thing may be decryed, because of its abuse, we ought not only to labour the abo∣lishing of all Christian Religion in ge∣neral, and every principle of it in par∣ticular out of the world; but the blot∣ting out of the Sun, and Moon, and Stars, out of the Firmament of Heaven, and the destruction of the greatest and most noble parts, at least, of the whole Crea∣tion: But as the Apostles continued in the work of Preaching the Gospel, though by some, the grace they taught

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was turned into lasciviousness; so shall we abide to plead for the use of the Scri∣pture, whatever abuse of them by the wicked lusts of men can be instanced in. Nor is there any reason in the world, why food should be kept from all men, though some have surfeited, or may yet so do. To have a compendious Narration of the Story and Morality of the Scripture in the room of the whole, which our Author allows of, is so jejune, narrow, and empty a Conception, so unanswer∣able to all those divine Testimonies gi∣ven to the excellency of the Word of God, with Precepts to abide in the me∣ditation and study of it, to grow in the knowledge of it, and the mysteries con∣tained in it, the commendations of them that did so, in the Scripture it self, so blasphemously derogatory to the Good∣ness, Love, and Wisdom of God, in grant∣ing us that inestimable benefit, so con∣trary to the redoubled Exhortations of all the Antient Fathers, that I wonder any one who dares pretend to have read it, or to be a Christian, can own and avow such a notion. All the fine Stories, Allusions, and Speculations, a∣bout

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madness, that he is pleased to flou∣rish withall in this matter, are a cover∣ing too short and narrow to hide that wretched contempt of the holy Word of the great God, which in these No∣tions discovers its self. Men who by corrupt Principles have been scared from the study of the Scripture, or by their lusts kept from its serious perusal, or attendance unto it, that value not the Authority of God, of Christ, or his Apostles, commanding and requiring the diligent study of it, that dis-regard the glorious mysteries, revealed in it on set purpose that we might all come to an acquaintance with them, and so, con∣sequently, that have had no experience of the excellency or usefulness of it, nor lye under any conviction of their own duty to attend unto it; may per∣haps be glad to have their lusts and un∣belief so farr accommodated, as to suf∣fer themselves to be perswaded, that there is no need that they should any further regard it, than hitherto they have done. But in vain is the Net spread before the Eye of any thing that hath a wing; for them who have tasted the

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sweetness of the good Word of God, who have attained any acquaintance with its usefulness and excellency, who have heard the voyce of God in it, making the knowledge of his Will revealed therein of indispensable necessity to the salvation of their souls; believe me, Sir, all your Rhetorick and Stories, your pretences and flourishes, will never pre∣vail with them to cast away their Bi∣bles, and resolve for the future to be∣lieve only in the Pope. Of the inter∣pretation of the Scripture I have spoken before, and shewed sufficiently, that neither are we at any such a loss there∣in, as to bring us to any incertainty a∣bout the Principles of our Religion; nor, if we were, have we the least reason to look for any relief from Rome. When I happen upon any of these Discourses, I cannot but say to my self; What do these men intend? Do they know what they do, or with whom they have to deal? Have they ever read the Scri∣pture, or tasted any sweetness in it? If they instruct their Disciples unto such mean thoughts of the holy Word of God, they undo them for ever. And if

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I meet with these bold efforts against the wisdom of God twenty times, I cannot but still thus startle at them.

The two following Motives being ta∣ken up, as far as I can apprehend, to give our Author an advantage to make sport for himself and others, in canvasing some expressions & discourses of our talkative times, and the vulgar brutish manage∣ment of our differences, by some weak unknowing Persons, need not detain us. Did I judge it a business worthy of any prudent mans consideration, it were ea∣sie to return him for his requital, a col∣lec••••on of the pretty Prayers and Devo∣tions of his good Catholicks, of their kind treatments one of another, or the doubty Arguments they make use of a∣mongst themselves and against us; abun∣dantly enough to repay him his kindness, without being beholding to any of those Legends, which they formerly accommo∣dated the people withall, in room both of Scripture and Preaching; though of late they begin to be ashamed of them.

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