Scene 4.
Enter two Gentlemen.
1 GEnt.
Have you seen Monsieur Thesis Book of Poems that is newly come forth?
1 Gent.
And how do you approve of them?
2 Gent.
As well as I do of an Anagram.
1 Gent.
There is never an Anagram in the Book.
2 Gent.
Why the whole Book is an Anagram of Doctor Costives Poems: for he hath only new placed the words, as they do Anagrams of names, but the whole matter, sense, and conceits is the same.
1 Gent.
Indeed he hath imitated him.
2 Gent.
By your favour, imitation is only to be like another, and not the same; but his is the very same, as I have told you, for which he deserves less praises than a Imitator, although those that do imitate any Excellent Poet, do not gain so much honour to themselves, as they give honour to those they imitate; as for example, the Imitators of Homer give more honour to Homer than to themselves; for Imitators are only as Painters, where he that is imita∣ted is as Nature, or the Gods, for the one draws but Copies, the other makes the Original; so that there is as much difference as a Man, and the Picture of a man.
1 Gent.
But a Painter that draws the Picture of a man, very like the life, he may be more famous than the man that is drawn.
2 Gent.
But not worshiped and adored, as Nature is, that made him: for Art cannot out-do Nature, nor do as Nature hath doue, and doth do; and an Imitator is but an Artificer, when as the Original Author is a Creator, and ought to be accounted of, and respected, and worship'd as Divine; but there are or have been but very few Poets that have such powers and parts to make a perfect Creature, which is a perfect work, as Poems, scenes, or story; but some Poets are like Chymist, that strive and labour to make as Na∣ture makes, but most fail in their work, and lose their labours, wanting that Natural heat, or well-tempered matter, which should produce such Crea∣tures as Nature makes, yet some 'tis said have made gold, as Raimond Lully.
1 Gent.
Then Homer is a Raimond Lully in Poetry.
2 Gent.
Nay rather Raimond Lully is a Homer in Chymistry: for no man ought to compare Homer to any Creature, by reason he hath out-wrought Nature, having done that which she never did; for Nature never made Gods, Devils, Hells, and Heavens, as Homer hath done.
1 Gent.
For my part I had rather be Raimond Lully than Homer: for I had rather have the Art to make Gold, than the Nature to make Poems.
2 Gent.
You would not gain so much by Gold as Wit.
1 Gent.
VVhy, what shall I gain?
1 Gent.
But Gold will bribe Fame to speak as I would have her, if I have ••old enough to bribe her.
2 Gent.
But Poems will force Fame to speak for you without a bribe.
1 Gent.
That were all one to me, so she speaks well, whether she be for∣••••d, flattered, or bribed.