The state of the Protestants of Ireland under the late King James's government in which their carriage towards him is justified, and the absolute necessity of their endeavouring to be freed from his government, and of submitting to their present Majesties is demonstrated.

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The state of the Protestants of Ireland under the late King James's government in which their carriage towards him is justified, and the absolute necessity of their endeavouring to be freed from his government, and of submitting to their present Majesties is demonstrated.
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King, William, 1650-1729.
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London :: Printed for Robert Clavell ...,
1691.
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Protestants -- Ireland -- Early works to 1800.
Ireland -- History -- James II, 1685-1688.
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"The state of the Protestants of Ireland under the late King James's government in which their carriage towards him is justified, and the absolute necessity of their endeavouring to be freed from his government, and of submitting to their present Majesties is demonstrated." In the digital collection Early English Books Online. https://name.umdl.umich.edu/A47446.0001.001. University of Michigan Library Digital Collections. Accessed June 6, 2024.

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The Perswasions and Suggestions the Irish Catholicks make to his Majesty; Supposed to be drawn up by Talbot, ti∣tular Arch-bishop of Dublin, and found in Col. Tal∣bot's House, July 1. 1671.

  • 1. THAT the Rebellion in Anno 1641. was the Act of a few, and out of fear of what was doing in Eng∣land. That they were provoked and driven to it by the English to get their Forfeitures. That they were often willing to submit to the King, and did it effectually Anno 1648; and held up his Interest against the Usurper, who had murdered his Father, till 1653. After which time they served his Majesty in Foreign Parts till his Restauration.
  • 2. That they acquiesce in his Majesty's Declaration of Novemb. 30. 1660. And are willing that the Adventurers and Souldiers, should have what is therein promised them; but what they and others have more, may be resumed and disposed of as by the De∣claration.
  • 3. They desire for what Lands intended to be restored them, shall be continued to the Adventurers and Souldiers, that they may have a Compensation in Money out of his Majesty's new Revenues of Quit-Rents, payable by the Adventurers and Soul∣diers. The Hearth▪Money and Excise being such Branches as were not in 1641; and hope that the one will ballance the other.
  • 4. They say, That his Majesty has now no more need of an Army than before 1641; That the remainder of his Revenue will maintain now, as well as then, what Forces are necessary.
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  • 5. They desire to be restored to Habitations and Freedom within Corporations. 1. That the General Trade may ad∣vance. 2. That Garisons and Cittadels may become useless. 3. That they may serve his Majesty in Parliament, for bettering his Revenue, and crushing and securing the Seditious in all Pla∣ces.
  • 6. They desire to be Sheriffs and Justices of the Peace, &c. for the Ends and Purposes aforesaid; and to have the Power of the Civil and Ordinary Militia.
  • 7. They also desire to be form'd into a Militia, and to be ad∣mitted to be of the standing Army.
  • 8. That their Religion is consonant to Monarchy and impli∣cit Obedience. That they themselves have actually serv'd his Majesty in Difficulties. That they have no other way to advan∣tage themselves, than by a strict adherence to the King. That they have no other Refuge; whereas many of his Majesty's Sub∣jects do lean hard another way.
  • 9. That the Roman Catholicks are six to one of all others; that of the said one to six, some are Atheists and Neuters, who will profess the Roman Catholick Religion; others devoutly given, will affect the same course, that the rest may have their Liberty of Conscience, and may be corrected in case they abuse it.
  • 10. That the Roman Catholicks having the full Power of the Nation, they can at all times spare his Majesty an Army of Sixty thousand Men, there being Twelve hundred thousand Souls in Ireland; and so consequently an Hundred and fifty thousand be∣tween sixteen and sixty Years old: Which Forces, if allowed to Trade, shall have Shipping to transport themselves when his Ma∣jesty pleaseth.
  • 11. That they have a good Correspondence abroad, for that great numbers of their Nation are Souldiers, Priests, and Mer∣chants, in esteem with several great Princes and their Ministers.
  • 12. That the Toleration of the Roman Catholicks in Eng∣land being granted, and the Insolence of the Hollanders taken down, a Confederacy with France which can influence England, as Scotland can also, will together, by God's Blessing, make his Majesty's Monarchy Absolute and Real.
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  • 13. That if any of the Irish cannot have their Lands in specie, but Money in lieu as aforesaid, some of them may transport themselves into America, possibly near New-England, to check the growing Independents of that Country.
  • 14. That the next Parliament being formed as aforesaid, great Sums of Money will be given his Majesty. Query, Whether the Roman Catholick Clergy may not be admitted into the House of Peers this next Parliament, or stay a little?
  • 15. That for effecting the Premises, 'tis better his Majesty should govern Ireland by a Committee of such of his Privy Coun∣cil as approved the Conjunction with France, and as are not con∣cern'd in Ireland, rather than by the Council of Ireland.
  • 16. Let such a Lord Lieutenant be in Ireland, who in Inclina∣tion, and for fear of being displaced, will begin this Work of laying the Foundation of his Majesty's Monarchy, and hazard his Concernments upon that account.
  • 17. That the Army be gradually reform'd, and opportunity taken to displace Men not affected to this Settlement; and to put into the Army or Garisons in Ireland, some fit Persons to begin this Work; and likewise Judges upon the Benches.
  • 18. Query, What Precedents may be found to break the seve∣ral Farms, and to be Master of the Exchequer, and pole the Gains of the Bankers, Brewers, and Farmers?
  • 1. Whether the paying of a Fine or Income upon all Grants of Charters, Officers and Commanders, may not bind and fasten the Grant, Duty, and Allegiance, as with Silver Chains, more firmly to the King's Government?
  • 2. Whether any Grants may be presumed to be new obtained, without paying a great Value, at least to some great Officer or Courtier for procuring the same?
  • 3. Whether it be not ••••••sonable, a Year's Value be paid as a grateful Acknowledgment to the Prince's Bounty upon Tempo∣ral Grants, as First Fruits from Spiritual?
  • 4. Whether to reserve such Grants to the immediate dispose of the King, be not the Interest of the Crown, and a Means to cre∣ate a closer adherence to the Person of the Prince, and so make Monarchy more Absolute and Real, instead of factious Dependen∣ces on great Men, who are often acted more by Self-interest than the Advantage of their Master?
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  • 5. Whether a considerable Revenue may not be raised to the Crown, that if such Courtiers received it upon procuring Grants, it were paid to the Private or Privy-Purse?
  • 6. Whether the Subject would not more chearfully pay a Years Value or two to the Prince upon passing Grants, than to be lia∣ble to the unreasonable Exaction of hungry Courtiers, who some∣times make a Prey, both of the Subject and the Prince's Favour?
  • 7. Whether many worthy and deserving Men have not been put by and denied the benefit of his Majesty's Grant by false Insi∣nuation, for not gratifying some such viperous Officers?
  • 8. Whether his Majesty might not expect to have a fitter Per∣son recommended, when there is no Advantage to be made by their Recommendations, than when Offices are canted by Cour∣tiers, and such only recommended as will give most, but the least fit?
  • 9. Whether if by the Silver Key Men chance to get admit∣tance into Offices, the Prince may not make Advantage by their Misbehaviour, since by losing both their Mony and Employ∣ment, the King will not only get a Fine, and better Servants, but also gratify the People by displacing an ill One.
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